Flu fighters: Experts warn of avian threat looming Down Under

As global health concerns continue to evolve, new threats emerge that demand our attention and preparedness.

Among these, one particular issue has garnered increasing scrutiny from experts and the public alike. If not properly addressed, this potential threat could have significant implications for public health and safety.

Understanding the factors contributing to its rise and the measures being proposed to mitigate its impact is crucial for staying informed and ready for what may lie ahead.


Following the discovery that the lethal avian flu has crossed species in Australia and is now affecting a duck farm, a prominent food safety expert warned that the virus could further mutate and potentially spread to pigs—‘the next step towards a human infection’.

The H7N3 strain of bird flu, a highly contagious variant, was detected at six properties in Victoria, prompting the culling of hundreds of thousands of birds as a precautionary measure.


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The lethal avian flu strain H7N3 infected ducks in Australia, prompting fears of further spread to other species, including humans. Credit: Shutterstock


Professor Enzo Palombo, a Food Health and Safety Expert at Swinburne University, urged calm, stating that ‘there's no need to panic’ and ‘no real sense that anything significant is happening locally which we should be concerned about’ at the time being.

However, he also acknowledged the potential for the virus to 'come across to humans more readily and cause problems,' which ‘could end up being the start of the next pandemic’.

According to Professor Palombo, ‘the real concern from a public health point of view’ would be if ‘what's happening in the US with mammals’ happens Down Under.


‘I don't believe it constitutes a major public health threat here yet, but I think what's most concerning is what's happening in the US with the dairy cattle, there have been documented transmissions from cattle to humans, most likely through milk,’ Professor Palombo explained.

‘The virus seems to be infecting the udders, and it seems to be shared through milk, which tests showed had live virus in it.’

He noted that if the virus were to transition from cows to pigs, ‘that scenario being much more frightening than any potential spread through food’.

‘Pigs are notoriously the animals in which all these flu viruses tend to mix up and come out as new versions,’ he pointed out.

‘It's concerning because the bird flu virus doesn't grow well in humans, but it does in pigs, so the pigs [are] becoming this melting pot of different viruses.’


The global reach of the virus is evident, with cases reported in wildlife as far-flung as the penguins of Antarctica, a testament to the role of migratory birds in its spread.

Laboratory experiments have shown that bird flu strains can infect ferrets, suggesting that the virus could potentially pose a significant threat to humans.

‘’You're probably thinking, why does that matter? Well, ferrets are a model used in laboratories to mimic human infection. Now, if it can infect and make a ferret sick, and they mostly died in that experiment, that means it could come across to humans more readily and cause problems,’ Professor Palombo explained.

‘So all these things sort of have people starting to think, hang on, something's ticking over here, and it could end up being the next pandemic. We don't want to alarm people. But this is how it happens with these viruses. They don't follow any rules; they do what they want to do.’

When asked about the probability of the virus reaching a significant threat level in Australia, Palombo described it as ‘minimal’ but not entirely impossible.

‘Well, if you asked me that question about COVID in March 2020, I'd have said minimal risk then too, but then look what happened? We just don't know. It could be the next pandemic; it could all blow over, and we go back to normal,’ he clarified.


The impact of the bird flu outbreak was already felt in the Australian food supply chain, with Coles supermarkets imposing a temporary limit of two cartons of eggs per customer nationwide, excluding Western Australia.

The strain affecting Victoria differs from the H5N1 variant, which has spread to a wide range of wild and domestic mammal species, poultry, and migratory birds.

The current H7N3 outbreak has remained confined to poultry, unlike H5N1, which has also led to sporadic human cases, such as in the case in March when a boy returning to Australia from India was found to be infected.
Key Takeaways
  • The deadly avian flu H7N3 strain had spread to ducks in Australia, raising concerns about potential jumps to other species and humans.
  • A food safety expert warned that if the virus evolves to transmit among pigs, it could represent a significant public health threat and possibly lead to the next pandemic.
  • The virus had already spread globally and had shown the ability to infect ferrets, animals used as models to mimic human infection, indicating it could pose a risk to humans.
  • The bird flu outbreak has affected the egg supply in Australia, prompting Coles supermarkets to enforce a limit on egg purchases while health officials continue to monitor the situation carefully.
Have you noticed any changes in your local area regarding poultry or egg availability? Are you taking any precautions to protect yourself from potential bird flu exposure? We invite you to share your thoughts and concerns about this issue.
 

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I think one of the main issues with these sorts of viral diseases is the prolonged use of antibiotics within some industries. Antibiotics were introduced as a way to promote the health of animals in close confinements. Some viruses have become tolerant of many of the antibiotics and further strains have become totally immune to them. Cross species mutations have allowed viruses to cross the species barriers and infect other species. Soil borne pathogens require harsh sterilization methods (Burning/ spaying the soil, sheds, stalls and cages) to remove all of the contamination from the area. Burning the carcasses, fecal matter of infected animals and removing the soil has been used to contain many outbreaks throughout the world.
 
Ah well, it's merely a local conspiracy poccurrence , just like the Kansas (Spanish) 'flu that jumped from pigs to a US Army cook in 1917, and in about 4-5 years killed between 20 million and 50 million people. So just don't you worry about that, now!

As for Covid, the pandemic is still running, but we now call it an endemic and take damn all notice of a very nasty virus that gets into the brain, the lungs, the gut, the kidneys and liver doing assorted bits of damage that can shorten young lives and finish old ones. And if anyone thinks otherwise, they are simply b***** fools.

PS Many a time in a long life have I had a "Cold" and "The' Flu" and never did those ever have me coughing up fresh red blood for several days.
I found coughing up fresh blood to be slightly alarming. Sorry to have been alarmed, but it seemed a bit unusual at time.
It’s usually a sign of Pneumonia. I am a GP. I had atypical pneumonia a rare organism in 2013. I could feel blood coming up from my right lung. I was off work for three months. For some reason I have not had Covid or indeed any respiratory infection since 2019. Despite working and being in hospital myself often . I get my seventh Pfizer Covid vaccine tomorrow. Flu is often carried by wild birds so bird flu epidemic is a possibility. Hopefully a vaccine will be developed. I wear a mask everywhere!
 
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It's a new name for the flu.
I opened the window and inflewcovid. It might be the coffin they carry you offin, but it's the covidding that carries you off. Bloody 'ell I thought and that's right, said my lungs.
 
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It’s usually a sign of Pneumonia. I am a GP. I had atypical pneumonia a rare organism in 2013. I could feel blood coming up from my right lung. I was off work for three months. For some reason I have not had Covid or indeed any respiratory infection since 2019. Despite working and being in hospital myself often . I get my seventh Pfizer Covid vaccine tomorrow. Flu is often carried by wild birds so bird flu epidemic is a possibility. Hopefully a vaccine will be developed. I wear a mask everywhere!
i do not think i would attend your practice.
 
It’s usually a sign of Pneumonia. I am a GP. I had atypical pneumonia a rare organism in 2013. I could feel blood coming up from my right lung. I was off work for three months. For some reason I have not had Covid or indeed any respiratory infection since 2019. Despite working and being in hospital myself often . I get my seventh Pfizer Covid vaccine tomorrow. Flu is often carried by wild birds so bird flu epidemic is a possibility. Hopefully a vaccine will be developed. I wear a mask everywhere!
Thanks. Yes; well and truly Covid positive was I and you being a medic and me in my mid-70s you will appreciate alpha-1 anti-trypsin issues. Damned virus got me about three days before I was due my 5th booster, the 4th having passed its 6-month expiry date and with a new Omicron mutant having just entered the country for its bloody Xmas celebrations. Someone C-positive, and who should have known better, had coughed, very efficiently, over my breakfast and I.
 
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I think one of the main issues with these sorts of viral diseases is the prolonged use of antibiotics within some industries. Antibiotics were introduced as a way to promote the health of animals in close confinements. Some viruses have become tolerant of many of the antibiotics and further strains have become totally immune to them. Cross species mutations have allowed viruses to cross the species barriers and infect other species. Soil borne pathogens require harsh sterilization methods (Burning/ spaying the soil, sheds, stalls and cages) to remove all of the contamination from the area. Burning the carcasses, fecal matter of infected animals and removing the soil has been used to contain many outbreaks throughout the world.
Antibiotics don’t affect viruses. But agricultural use causes emergence of resistant bacteria.
i do not think i would attend your practice.
i dont know why as I have been a successful family GP for 45 years. You know nothing about me so your comment means nothing to me. Cheers.
Thanks. Yes; well and truly Covid positive was I and you being a medic and me in my mid-70s you will appreciate alpha-1 anti-trypsin issues. Damned virus got me about three days before I was due my 5th booster, the 4th having passed its 6-month expiry date and with a new Omicron mutant having just entered the country for its bloody Xmas celebrations. Someone C-positive, and who should have known better, had coughed, very efficiently, over my breakfast and I.
sorry to hear that. I hope you’re ok now.
 
Antibiotics don’t affect viruses. But agricultural use causes emergence of resistant bacteria.

i dont know why as I have been a successful family GP for 45 years. You know nothing about me so your comment means nothing to me. Cheers.

sorry to hear that. I hope you’re ok now.
Never was much good at running marathons. Although walking them up hill and down dale was ok when a few years younger. And I got paid for doing it, which was even better.
 
Are you a doctor
No,but I have enough sense not to trust main stream media and the government, I'm only an Engineer. Smarter than that Fauci, unelected dictator.
 

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Ah well, it's merely a local conspiracy poccurrence , just like the Kansas (Spanish) 'flu that jumped from pigs to a US Army cook in 1917, and in about 4-5 years killed between 20 million and 50 million people. So just don't you worry about that, now!

As for Covid, the pandemic is still running, but we now call it an endemic and take damn all notice of a very nasty virus that gets into the brain, the lungs, the gut, the kidneys and liver doing assorted bits of damage that can shorten young lives and finish old ones. And if anyone thinks otherwise, they are simply b***** fools.

PS Many a time in a long life have I had a "Cold" and "The' Flu" and never did those ever have me coughing up fresh red blood for several days.
Maybe you're just getting old. It's a man made virus. Released on us and they had a vaccine in no time, don't listen to msm. And most certainly don't trust your government.
 
Maybe you're just getting old. It's a man made virus. Released on us and they had a vaccine in no time, don't listen to msm. And most certainly don't trust your government.
I never trust politicians; our pollies have just been awarded a 3.5% pay rise. And pensioners?

As for Covid, I read stuff by scientists, or summaries thereof. In the first couple of years a massive amount of research was done into the structure of the virus, its mutatability, its vulnerability and into how to manufacture vaccines to slow its spread as well the aerodynamics around face-masks and of fine coughed and sneezed droplets carrying the C-19 virus. There may even be some learned papers documenting the collective crass stupidity of human beings, which has been well-tested by countless psychopathic dictators and proved by wars very thoroughly for at least 5 000 years of civilisation.
 
What are you trying to say? Surely you don’t think Covid isn’t real!
Covid is the new name for a man made flu, it's all crap, but you go right ahead and comply, they'll admit they are wrong in the near future, more people die from suicide caused by losing their jobs and homes.
 
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Covid is the new name for a man made flu, it's all crap, but you go right ahead and comply, they'll admit they are wrong in the near future, more people die from suicide caused by losing their jobs and homes.
if it causes death it does not matter what it is called, BUT you be the fool and risk your life.
 
Covid is the new name for a man made flu, it's all crap, but you go right ahead and comply, they'll admit they are wrong in the near future, more people die from suicide caused by losing their jobs and homes.
Whether Covid escaped from a laboratory in PR China or jumped from some animal to a human may be a moot point and it may produce flu-like symptoms at the outset of infection, but it is a virus distinct from common-or-garden flu and it certainly does damage that c-o-g 'flu would appear not to do.

However, with a suicide rate of 12.3 per 100 000 in Australia, suicide occurs at a rate significantly higher than adverse events from Covid vaccinations. However, add this little snippet from the National Library and the rate of suicide from losing one's job and home, "In this study, we examined adult suicide decedents who had JFH as a suicide precipitant. Consistent with previous study findings discussed earlier, we found that the rates of JFH were higher among middle-aged decedents, especially those aged 45–64, in both sexes. About one out of five male decedents and one out of six female decedents age 45–64 had JFH."

So on the basis of 12.3 in 100 000, about 2 to 3 people in 100 000 committed suicide because they had lost their job and home. The best sort of number I have found for those who died from Covid globally is around 7 million. With 8.6 billion of us in the world, that comes 1.2 in 1000 or 12 in 100 000.

In regard to deaths from suicide because of JFH, death by Covid wins clearly by several lengths, although it seems a photo-finish when compared with the total number of suicides per 100 000 in Australia.
 
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