'This is literally part of the Knowledge Test': Driver faces thousands in fines after this mistake!

While driving around Australia, each state has its own set of rules.

However, they all have one 'basic' rule drivers should keep in mind.

A recent incident served as a stark reminder to all Australian motorists about the importance of this road rule often taken for granted.


A driver has been slapped with a staggering $2050 fine while driving in the streets of Sydney.

The driver's costly lesson began on 22 December when a seat belt detection camera on the M4 Motorway near Greystanes captured an image of a passenger with a seat belt worn incorrectly.

An employee of a Sydney-based vehicle rental company took to social media to share the cautionary tale.

The employee noted an alarming increase in drivers facing similar fines.


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The fine notice required the vehicle rental company to nominate a driver or face hefty fines. Image Credit: Reddit


'This fellow got hit with double demerits because the passenger was wearing the seat belt under their shoulder,' he explained.

The fine, initially issued to the company due to the use of a corporate vehicle, was five times the amount an individual might face.

'Once a driver is nominated, the fine will be reduced,' the notice read.

'If you don't nominate a driver, you will have to pay the full fine amount of $2050 and face an additional fine of over $1400.'


After being nominated, an employee had to pay a fine of $400.

However, the penalty still included six demerit points.

Several drivers immediately shared their thoughts about the ordeal.

'This is literally part of the Driver Knowledge Test and the road users handbook,' one comment pointed out.


Another comment pointed out that since it was a 'hire car company', there could be a chance that the passengers were not Australians.

'A lot of the policing tools we use here are unfamiliar overseas,' the comment read.

'While you should always follow the rules, I question how aware some tourists would be of how strict we are unless it's spelled out to them.'

'I can't understand how one could wear a seat belt incorrectly. It's designed to click in normally, and then the strap should go over the shoulder. Why?' a third comment asked.

'People really disregard safety when it comes to cars,' a fourth lamented. 'Nothing excuses people from knowing the road rules.'


According to the NSW Government, about 29 people die, and 76 face severe injuries on NSW roads for simply not wearing a seat belt properly.

Always wear seat belts in a 'low, flat, and firm' position to maximise their protective benefits.

The lap belt should cross the hips, and the shoulder strap should pass over the chest and mid-shoulder.

Failure to comply not only incurs fines and demerit points, but it could also endanger lives.


The NSW government introduced phone and seat belt detection cameras last year.

This new measure could monitor and penalise drivers breaking the said road rules.

Despite over 50 years of mandatory seat belt laws, non-compliance remains a stubborn issue.

Exemptions to wearing only apply in specific situations, such as reversing or driving a garbage truck or a delivery vehicle at low speeds.

Let this be a reminder to buckle up correctly when hitting the road.

It is a critical safety measure that could save your or your loved ones' lives.
Key Takeaways

  • A Sydney driver received a substantial fine for a seat belt infraction involving a passenger wearing their seat belt improperly.
  • A seat belt detection camera captured the improper use of the seat belt, which incurred massive fines for a company-owned vehicle.
  • According to the NSW Government, wearing seat belts could double the chance of survival in a road crash.
  • The NSW Government recently introduced phone and seat belt detection cameras to monitor and detect seat belt violations in the state actively.
Have you or someone you know ever faced a similar situation? Share your experiences and thoughts about this news in the comments section below. Let's keep each other informed and safe on the roads!
 

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All the time. I am constantly having to pull the seatbelt off my neck where it would cause untold harm to my head & neck were I to be in a serious accident. I have checked and, no, I cannot lower it any further from the point of attachment to the car so I have to put up with this dangerous belt.
I remember an accident not far from where I was living at the time, when lap/sash seatbelts were first introduced, where the driver of a car involved in an accident was decapitated by his seatbelt.
While I always wear my seatbelt, I do have concerns about this poor location of the attachment to the side of the car so that my neck is constantly being rubbed by my seatbelt.
SOLUTION - Buy one of those soft fluffy wrap around covers that will ensure some relief from the chafing & ?decapitation? . I haven’t heard of anyone being decapitated as the result of a seatbelt chafing them!
 

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As you are unaware what is happening in the back sit with adult & children the car or other vehicles .
So all vehicles made should have a senser alarm that the safety belt not on right all times, yes a camera on outside can see more than the driver .
UNFAIR.
Not UNFAIR at all. It is, legally, the responsibility of the driver to ensure ALL passengers - front and back - are properly restrained. Try fighting the UNFAIR excuse in a court of law!
 
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Wondering if anyone else finds seatbelts, in some cars, ride up around the neck and become very uncomfortable. Not sure about the safety aspect of this too.
Yes mine does when driving my partners car. I might need to raise the seat height when I drive it but I’m not comfortable with my head almost on the roof lining.
 
Wondering if anyone else finds seatbelts, in some cars, ride up around the neck and become very uncomfortable. Not sure about the safety aspect of this too.
Buy the item below - it is a fluffy wrap-around item that comes with Velcro to enable it to be wrapped around the belt. Not expensive if it saves your neck or, more importantly, your life in an accident. There is no interference with operation of the seatbelt in event of an accident.
 

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I only recently realised that my car will not move forward, no matter what, if I am not wearing the seatbelt. (It was a parking situation on private property). The vehicle literally engaged the park brake until the seatbelt was done up.
What make of car do you drive GrannyJA!...?
 
As you are unaware what is happening in the back sit with adult & children the car or other vehicles .
So all vehicles made should have a senser alarm that the safety belt not on right all times, yes a camera on outside can see more than the driver .
UNFAIR.
As the driver of the car you will be held responsible if your passengers..front or back....are not buckled up properly.
 
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The article states:-

The lap belt should cross the hips, and the shoulder strap should pass over the chest and mid-shoulder.
This is erroneous.

For example, the NSW Road Rules 2014 states:-

264 Wearing of seatbelts by drivers
(1) The driver of a motor vehicle that is moving, or is stationary but not parked
(a) must occupy a driver’s seating position that is fitted with an approved seatbelt, and
(b) must not occupy the same seating position as another passenger, whether or not the other passenger is exempt from wearing a seatbelt under rule 267, and
(c) must wear the seatbelt properly adjusted and fastened, unless the driver is reversing the vehicle or exempt from wearing a seatbelt under rule 267.


The same applies to passenger.

There is a difference between should and must.
What is the exemption under rule 267, do you know ? :unsure:
 
What is the exemption under rule 267, do you know ? :unsure:
I deleted the superfluous BS as deemed necessary.

267 Exemptions from wearing seatbelts

(1) A person is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—

(a) the person is authorised by Transport for NSW under rule 268–1 not to comply with rule 268 and is complying with the conditions (if any) of the authorisation, and

(b) the person is a passenger in or on a motor vehicle with 2 or more rows of seats and there is not another law of this jurisdiction permitting the person to sit in the front row of seats, and the person is not in the front row of seats.

(1A) A person in or on a motor vehicle is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—
(a) the seating position that he or she occupies is not fitted with a seatbelt, and

(b) there is no requirement for that seating position to be fitted with a seatbelt, and

(c) all passengers in the vehicle who are exempt from wearing a seatbelt are complying with subrule (8).

(2) A person in or on a motor vehicle is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—

(a) the person is engaged in the door-to-door delivery or collection of goods, or in the collection of waste or garbage, and is required to get in or out of the vehicle, or on or off the vehicle, at frequent intervals, and

(b) the vehicle is not travelling over 25 kilometres per hour.

(3) A person is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—

(a) the person (or, for a passenger, the driver of the vehicle in or on which the person is a passenger) is carrying a certificate (other than a medical certificate issued under subrule (3A)), issued under another law of this jurisdiction, stating that the person is not required to wear a seatbelt, and

(b) the person is complying with the conditions (if any) stated in the certificate.

(3A) A person who is in, or on, a motor vehicle is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—
(a) the person (or, if the person is a passenger in or on a vehicle, the vehicle’s driver) is carrying a medical certificate that states a medical practitioner believes the person should not wear a seatbelt because of a medical condition or disability the person has, and

(b) the person is complying with any conditions stated in the medical certificate, and

(c) no other law of this jurisdiction states that this subrule does not apply.

(4) However, a person is exempt under subrule (3) or (3A) only if the driver produces the relevant medical certificate or a copy of the certificate—

(a) for a camera recorded offence—to the Commissioner of Fines Administration—
(i) within 28 days after receiving a penalty notice, or

(ii) during an internal review conducted under the Fines Act 1996, Part 3, Division 2A, or

(b) otherwise—to an authorised person immediately after being asked to do so by the authorised person.

(5) A person is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—

(a) the person is a passenger in or on a police or emergency vehicle, and

(b) either—

(i) if the vehicle has 2 or more rows of seats—the person is not in the front row of seats or there is not a seating position available for the person in another row of seats, or

(ii) if the vehicle is a police vehicle and has a caged, or other secured, area designed for the carriage of passengers—the person occupies a seating position in that area.

(6) A person is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if he or she is providing or receiving medical treatment of an urgent and necessary nature while in or on a vehicle.

(6–1) A person who is a passenger in a bus (within the meaning of the Passenger Transport Act 2014) is exempt from wearing a seatbelt (and from any requirement to use a seating position that is fitted with a seatbelt) if—

(a) the bus is being used to provide a public passenger service (within the meaning of that Act, and

(b) the bus is specifically designed for use by standing passengers, and

(c) in the case where the bus has one or more seating positions that are fitted with seatbelts—all of those seating positions are occupied by other passengers.
Example for subrule (6–1).
A passenger may stand in a bus that is fitted with seatbelts, but only if all of the seats with seatbelts are occupied by other passengers.

(7) If a truck or bus has a sleeper compartment, a two-up driver of the truck or bus is exempt from wearing a seatbelt while he or she occupies the sleeper compartment for rest purposes.

(8) If a vehicle does not have seatbelts or approved child restraints fitted to all its passenger seating positions, a passenger who is exempt from wearing a seatbelt under this rule must not occupy a seating position that is fitted with a seatbelt or an approved child restraint if the result would be that a passenger who is not exempt from wearing a seatbelt under this rule would be required to occupy a seating position that is not fitted with a seatbelt or an approved child restraint.

(8–1) A reference in subrule (8) to an approved child restraint includes a reference to an approved booster seat.

(9) In this rule—
two-up driver means a person accompanying a driver of a truck or bus on a journey, or part of a journey, who has been, is or will be sharing the task of driving the truck or bus during the journey.
 
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Wondering if anyone else finds seatbelts, in some cars, ride up around the neck and become very uncomfortable. Not sure about the safety aspect of this too.
Yes they do, and require you to hold them out from your body or get strangled. Guess you would be fined for this, but better a fine than dead from the seat belt I guess.
 
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Wondering if anyone else finds seatbelts, in some cars, ride up around the neck and become very uncomfortable. Not sure about the safety aspect of this too.
I use seatbelt covers similar to these. They are really effective to make the seatbelt more comfortable.

 
You can buy soft and fluffy wrap around protection for a seatbelt which eliminates the discomfort around the neck. No excuse for this driver or anyone who claims the rubbing on the neck is uncomfortable!
I have a piece of sheep skin with Velcro strips that prevents chaffing from seat belts. Solves the problem.
 
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'This is literally part of the Driver Knowledge Test and the road users handbook,' one comment pointed out.
Unquote.

Is this yet another overuse of the word 'literally'?
It either is a part of or not a part of a test.
 
You can buy soft and fluffy wrap around protection for a seatbelt which eliminates the discomfort around the neck. No excuse for this driver or anyone who claims the rubbing on the neck is uncomfortable!
I have one of those, still have to play with it though as I had a near choking incident and cant have any clothing touch it, so the fluffy cover thingamebob helps.
 
Check to see if your seat belt where it attaches to the pillar can move down. Most modern cars can do this
Mine is moved down as far a it will go, but the seatbelt is still around my neck. It's a distraction when driving because I have to keep pulling it down. Very frustrating.
 
I deleted the superfluous BS as deemed necessary.

267 Exemptions from wearing seatbelts

(1) A person is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—

(a) the person is authorised by Transport for NSW under rule 268–1 not to comply with rule 268 and is complying with the conditions (if any) of the authorisation, and

(b) the person is a passenger in or on a motor vehicle with 2 or more rows of seats and there is not another law of this jurisdiction permitting the person to sit in the front row of seats, and the person is not in the front row of seats.

(1A) A person in or on a motor vehicle is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—
(a) the seating position that he or she occupies is not fitted with a seatbelt, and

(b) there is no requirement for that seating position to be fitted with a seatbelt, and

(c) all passengers in the vehicle who are exempt from wearing a seatbelt are complying with subrule (8).

(2) A person in or on a motor vehicle is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—

(a) the person is engaged in the door-to-door delivery or collection of goods, or in the collection of waste or garbage, and is required to get in or out of the vehicle, or on or off the vehicle, at frequent intervals, and

(b) the vehicle is not travelling over 25 kilometres per hour.

(3) A person is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—

(a) the person (or, for a passenger, the driver of the vehicle in or on which the person is a passenger) is carrying a certificate (other than a medical certificate issued under subrule (3A)), issued under another law of this jurisdiction, stating that the person is not required to wear a seatbelt, and

(b) the person is complying with the conditions (if any) stated in the certificate.

(3A) A person who is in, or on, a motor vehicle is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—
(a) the person (or, if the person is a passenger in or on a vehicle, the vehicle’s driver) is carrying a medical certificate that states a medical practitioner believes the person should not wear a seatbelt because of a medical condition or disability the person has, and

(b) the person is complying with any conditions stated in the medical certificate, and

(c) no other law of this jurisdiction states that this subrule does not apply.

(4) However, a person is exempt under subrule (3) or (3A) only if the driver produces the relevant medical certificate or a copy of the certificate—

(a) for a camera recorded offence—to the Commissioner of Fines Administration—
(i) within 28 days after receiving a penalty notice, or

(ii) during an internal review conducted under the Fines Act 1996, Part 3, Division 2A, or

(b) otherwise—to an authorised person immediately after being asked to do so by the authorised person.

(5) A person is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if—

(a) the person is a passenger in or on a police or emergency vehicle, and

(b) either—

(i) if the vehicle has 2 or more rows of seats—the person is not in the front row of seats or there is not a seating position available for the person in another row of seats, or

(ii) if the vehicle is a police vehicle and has a caged, or other secured, area designed for the carriage of passengers—the person occupies a seating position in that area.

(6) A person is exempt from wearing a seatbelt if he or she is providing or receiving medical treatment of an urgent and necessary nature while in or on a vehicle.

(6–1) A person who is a passenger in a bus (within the meaning of the Passenger Transport Act 2014) is exempt from wearing a seatbelt (and from any requirement to use a seating position that is fitted with a seatbelt) if—

(a) the bus is being used to provide a public passenger service (within the meaning of that Act, and

(b) the bus is specifically designed for use by standing passengers, and

(c) in the case where the bus has one or more seating positions that are fitted with seatbelts—all of those seating positions are occupied by other passengers.
Example for subrule (6–1).
A passenger may stand in a bus that is fitted with seatbelts, but only if all of the seats with seatbelts are occupied by other passengers.

(7) If a truck or bus has a sleeper compartment, a two-up driver of the truck or bus is exempt from wearing a seatbelt while he or she occupies the sleeper compartment for rest purposes.

(8) If a vehicle does not have seatbelts or approved child restraints fitted to all its passenger seating positions, a passenger who is exempt from wearing a seatbelt under this rule must not occupy a seating position that is fitted with a seatbelt or an approved child restraint if the result would be that a passenger who is not exempt from wearing a seatbelt under this rule would be required to occupy a seating position that is not fitted with a seatbelt or an approved child restraint.

(8–1) A reference in subrule (8) to an approved child restraint includes a reference to an approved booster seat.

(9) In this rule—
two-up driver means a person accompanying a driver of a truck or bus on a journey, or part of a journey, who has been, is or will be sharing the task of driving the truck or bus during the journey.
(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y)(y) For the amazing effort that you have gone through and the information supplied....that is certain to answer a load of questions in the forum regarding the seat belt issue for our readers. GREAT JOB, as usual Veggie, thanks.
 
No brainer how a seat belt is meant to be worn, but people continue to have one excuse or another as to why they can't, it's like the idiots who walked around with masks on during COVID under their noses, that was not protecting anyone.
 
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All the time. I am constantly having to pull the seatbelt off my neck where it would cause untold harm to my head & neck were I to be in a serious accident. I have checked and, no, I cannot lower it any further from the point of attachment to the car so I have to put up with this dangerous belt.
I remember an accident not far from where I was living at the time, when lap/sash seatbelts were first introduced, where the driver of a car involved in an accident was decapitated by his seatbelt.
While I always wear my seatbelt, I do have concerns about this poor location of the attachment to the side of the car so that my neck is constantly being rubbed by my seatbelt.
Enough comments here besides mine to look into this as it appears to be a common problem.
 

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