Privacy concerns arise as GP chain offers bulk billing in exchange for patients’ personal data

In a recent announcement, the medical chain Our Medical—a national bulk-billing GP chain with locations throughout Victoria, New South Wales, and Queensland—is promoting a range of rewards and discounts for those who sign up for their rewards program.

This includes a free flu vaccine, a $20 dental voucher, a $20 physio voucher and local offers and discounts. It sounds good, right?



Except for members to access the rewards program, they’ll need to sign up online or via an app handing over their personal data in doing so.

For existing members, Our Medical has clarified that if you want to continue seeing the doctors at their centres, the patient 'will need to join the Rewards program'.

And for those who don't wish to sign on the dotted line or hit the proverbial 'Agree' button, they'll instead be paying a private fee for their medical appointments.


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A chain of GP clinics has been scrutinised for asking patients to share their data in exchange for a bulk billing appointment instead of being out of pocket. Image source: Facebook/Our Medical Gold Coast.



In a blog post, Our Medical highlighted its rewards program, emphasising its core belief in ensuring access to quality healthcare for everyone, wherever and whenever needed.

However, some experts have raised a valid concern: How does this belief align with the company's choice to charge significantly higher fees for individuals who choose not to participate in the rewards program?

This apparent contradiction has sparked a debate about the company's commitment to providing equitable healthcare access.



Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson disagreed with the move. When asked about Our Medical's decision, she said: ‘Some people simply don’t want their data aggregated.’

‘It’s not illegal to say that people who don’t use the app have to pay more. But I think it’s ethically problematic. A clinic that bulk bills is really important to some people. Particularly in this time of rising costs.’

Consumer group CHOICE’s Consumer Data Advocate, Kate Bower, also believes that customers of Our Medical have a right to be upset about the change the chain is demanding.

'These were patients who’d previously been bulk-billed by the clinic and were now being told that they had to sign up to the rewards program or pay a $90 out-of-pocket fee in order to see a doctor,' she told a news source.



In response, Our Medical confirmed that they indeed handle all personal information in accordance with applicable privacy and health records legislation and that their rewards program never uses personal data for commercial purposes or shares it with any third-party groups for financial gain.

On top of that, they state that no further information is captured through the rewards program than in the usual patient registration process.

The medical chain also highlighted the need to accurately confirm a patient's name, mobile number and email address—something they believe the rewards program verification process helps with.

However, this does raise the question of trust. Kate Bower added, ‘Unfortunately, at the moment, we just have to trust what the businesses say.’

Key Takeaways

  • Our Medical, a national bulk-billing GP chain, requires patients to join a rewards plan to access bulk-billed healthcare and, in doing so, hand over their personal data.
  • Our Medical allegedly told existing patients that to continue accessing the medical centres, they would need to join the rewards program or be charged a private fee to see a GP.
  • Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson criticised the move, saying that excluding patients who didn't want to sign up for the program could be ethically problematic.
  • Our Medical claimed that its rewards program would help deliver better quality and accessible healthcare and assured that it would never use personal data for commercial purposes or share it with third parties for financial gain.

Members, if you're ever in a situation where an organisation is trying to get access to your private information in exchange for a service (especially a free one), always take a few moments to read through their privacy policy—and if you see something that's worrying you, feel free to speak to customer service or take your business elsewhere.

In our ever-evolving digital world, whether signing up for a supermarket's loyalty program or a medical clinic's rewards system, it's important to be discerning about the information we share.



Digital privacy is something we should all be protective of, especially when it relates to medical and financial records.

So, before you visit your GP next time, take a moment to weigh up the convenience against the potential consequences. Your privacy should never come with a price tag!

What are your thoughts on this news? Let us know in the comments below!
 
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Thank you for the compliment!
Funnily enough, I'm currently undertaking studies in community services of which legal and ethical considerations are a major component.
😀🙄  I wonder how you're going to feel years down the track if you do go into this industry you'll be like the rest of us finding out it's one of the most corrupt Industries out there.
 
In a recent announcement, the medical chain Our Medical—a national bulk-billing GP chain with locations throughout Victoria, New South Wales, and Queensland—is promoting a range of rewards and discounts for those who sign up for their rewards program.

This includes a free flu vaccine, a $20 dental voucher, a $20 physio voucher and local offers and discounts. It sounds good, right?



Except for members to access the rewards program, they’ll need to sign up online or via an app handing over their personal data in doing so.

For existing members, Our Medical has clarified that if you want to continue seeing the doctors at their centres, the patient 'will need to join the Rewards program'.

And for those who don't wish to sign on the dotted line or hit the proverbial 'Agree' button, they'll instead be paying a private fee for their medical appointments.


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A chain of GP clinics has been scrutinised for asking patients to share their data in exchange for a bulk billing appointment instead of being out of pocket. Image source: Facebook/Our Medical Gold Coast.



In a blog post, Our Medical highlighted its rewards program, emphasising its core belief in ensuring access to quality healthcare for everyone, wherever and whenever needed.

However, some experts have raised a valid concern: How does this belief align with the company's choice to charge significantly higher fees for individuals who choose not to participate in the rewards program?

This apparent contradiction has sparked a debate about the company's commitment to providing equitable healthcare access.



Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson disagreed with the move. When asked about Our Medical's decision, she said: ‘Some people simply don’t want their data aggregated.’

‘It’s not illegal to say that people who don’t use the app have to pay more. But I think it’s ethically problematic. A clinic that bulk bills is really important to some people. Particularly in this time of rising costs.’

Consumer group CHOICE’s Consumer Data Advocate, Kate Bower, also believes that customers of Our Medical have a right to be upset about the change the chain is demanding.

'These were patients who’d previously been bulk-billed by the clinic and were now being told that they had to sign up to the rewards program or pay a $90 out-of-pocket fee in order to see a doctor,' she told a news source.



In response, Our Medical confirmed that they indeed handle all personal information in accordance with applicable privacy and health records legislation and that their rewards program never uses personal data for commercial purposes or shares it with any third-party groups for financial gain.

On top of that, they state that no further information is captured through the rewards program than in the usual patient registration process.

The medical chain also highlighted the need to accurately confirm a patient's name, mobile number and email address—something they believe the rewards program verification process helps with.

However, this does raise the question of trust. Kate Bower added, ‘Unfortunately, at the moment, we just have to trust what the businesses say.’

Key Takeaways

  • Our Medical, a national bulk-billing GP chain, requires patients to join a rewards plan to access bulk-billed healthcare and, in doing so, hand over their personal data.
  • Our Medical allegedly told existing patients that to continue accessing the medical centres, they would need to join the rewards program or be charged a private fee to see a GP.
  • Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson criticised the move, saying that excluding patients who didn't want to sign up for the program could be ethically problematic.
  • Our Medical claimed that its rewards program would help deliver better quality and accessible healthcare and assured that it would never use personal data for commercial purposes or share it with third parties for financial gain.

Members, if you're ever in a situation where an organisation is trying to get access to your private information in exchange for a service (especially a free one), always take a few moments to read through their privacy policy—and if you see something that's worrying you, feel free to speak to customer service or take your business elsewhere.

In our ever-evolving digital world, whether signing up for a supermarket's loyalty program or a medical clinic's rewards system, it's important to be discerning about the information we share.



Digital privacy is something we should all be protective of, especially when it relates to medical and financial records.

So, before you visit your GP next time, take a moment to weigh up the convenience against the potential consequences. Your privacy should never come with a price tag!

What are your thoughts on this news? Let us know in the comments below!
Just change where you go even if it means a little bit further of a trip... I will continue to do that if my current surgery makes changes like.... these are companies from over seas that own these chains and very greedy ones at that
 
This is correct but landlines are a dying breed. Telcos will probably phase them out like banks with cash.
We still have one and I mentioned that to our provider. They said they have no problems with a landline. They can't foresee them phasing them out at least not in our lifetime . Besides there are still a lot of businesses using landlines.
 
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This is a two pronged issue. Firstly, the privacy and confidentiality of an individual's personal information is protected by relevant State legislation. The Privacy Act 1988 is nationwide and only applies to government agencies. So the medical service provider must abide by State laws.

Secondly, the application of the full consultation fee is an ethical issue and is not controlled by law. Same as a person is afforded a member's discount when they join a retailer's loyalty program for example.

Now I've bored you all, you can go back to bed!
It's good reading proper information by someone on here instead of some people thinking they know the proper information about things. 👍
 
In a recent announcement, the medical chain Our Medical—a national bulk-billing GP chain with locations throughout Victoria, New South Wales, and Queensland—is promoting a range of rewards and discounts for those who sign up for their rewards program.

This includes a free flu vaccine, a $20 dental voucher, a $20 physio voucher and local offers and discounts. It sounds good, right?



Except for members to access the rewards program, they’ll need to sign up online or via an app handing over their personal data in doing so.

For existing members, Our Medical has clarified that if you want to continue seeing the doctors at their centres, the patient 'will need to join the Rewards program'.

And for those who don't wish to sign on the dotted line or hit the proverbial 'Agree' button, they'll instead be paying a private fee for their medical appointments.


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A chain of GP clinics has been scrutinised for asking patients to share their data in exchange for a bulk billing appointment instead of being out of pocket. Image source: Facebook/Our Medical Gold Coast.



In a blog post, Our Medical highlighted its rewards program, emphasising its core belief in ensuring access to quality healthcare for everyone, wherever and whenever needed.

However, some experts have raised a valid concern: How does this belief align with the company's choice to charge significantly higher fees for individuals who choose not to participate in the rewards program?

This apparent contradiction has sparked a debate about the company's commitment to providing equitable healthcare access.



Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson disagreed with the move. When asked about Our Medical's decision, she said: ‘Some people simply don’t want their data aggregated.’

‘It’s not illegal to say that people who don’t use the app have to pay more. But I think it’s ethically problematic. A clinic that bulk bills is really important to some people. Particularly in this time of rising costs.’

Consumer group CHOICE’s Consumer Data Advocate, Kate Bower, also believes that customers of Our Medical have a right to be upset about the change the chain is demanding.

'These were patients who’d previously been bulk-billed by the clinic and were now being told that they had to sign up to the rewards program or pay a $90 out-of-pocket fee in order to see a doctor,' she told a news source.



In response, Our Medical confirmed that they indeed handle all personal information in accordance with applicable privacy and health records legislation and that their rewards program never uses personal data for commercial purposes or shares it with any third-party groups for financial gain.

On top of that, they state that no further information is captured through the rewards program than in the usual patient registration process.

The medical chain also highlighted the need to accurately confirm a patient's name, mobile number and email address—something they believe the rewards program verification process helps with.

However, this does raise the question of trust. Kate Bower added, ‘Unfortunately, at the moment, we just have to trust what the businesses say.’

Key Takeaways

  • Our Medical, a national bulk-billing GP chain, requires patients to join a rewards plan to access bulk-billed healthcare and, in doing so, hand over their personal data.
  • Our Medical allegedly told existing patients that to continue accessing the medical centres, they would need to join the rewards program or be charged a private fee to see a GP.
  • Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson criticised the move, saying that excluding patients who didn't want to sign up for the program could be ethically problematic.
  • Our Medical claimed that its rewards program would help deliver better quality and accessible healthcare and assured that it would never use personal data for commercial purposes or share it with third parties for financial gain.

Members, if you're ever in a situation where an organisation is trying to get access to your private information in exchange for a service (especially a free one), always take a few moments to read through their privacy policy—and if you see something that's worrying you, feel free to speak to customer service or take your business elsewhere.

In our ever-evolving digital world, whether signing up for a supermarket's loyalty program or a medical clinic's rewards system, it's important to be discerning about the information we share.



Digital privacy is something we should all be protective of, especially when it relates to medical and financial records.

So, before you visit your GP next time, take a moment to weigh up the convenience against the potential consequences. Your privacy should never come with a price tag!

What are your thoughts on this news? Let us know in the comments below!
I won't be using Our Medical. First demanding my personal information is downright rude. Second, if Medicare, Optus and the ATO can be scammed for personal/financial information then there is no way Our Medical can ensure security of our personal information. How odd that once upon a time our names and addresses were all that were needed to see a GP.
 
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Thank you for the compliment!
Funnily enough, I'm currently undertaking studies in community services of which legal and ethical considerations are a major component.
It was the ethical argument that saw us hang 36 Nazis after the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials of the late 1940s. What those filth had done had been perfectly legal under the 1933-1945 German Law. Only obeying orders is no excuse for criminality. Laws not based on ethics are a waste of space and are the tyrant's dream.
 
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This is correct but landlines are a dying breed. Telcos will probably phase them out like banks with cash.
So I may never have another phone where you can reach me whenever you want.
Another problem with this medical practice demands is - many seniors do not even own a computer, so do not have an email address.
 
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I won't be using Our Medical. First demanding my personal information is downright rude. Second, if Medicare, Optus and the ATO can be scammed for personal information then there is no way Our medical can ensure security of our personal information. How odd that once upon a time our names and addresses were all that was needed to see a GP.
I agree. For this reason I do not have my medical details loaded so any medical facility could access them. I value my privacy too much for that.
 
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In a recent announcement, the medical chain Our Medical—a national bulk-billing GP chain with locations throughout Victoria, New South Wales, and Queensland—is promoting a range of rewards and discounts for those who sign up for their rewards program.

This includes a free flu vaccine, a $20 dental voucher, a $20 physio voucher and local offers and discounts. It sounds good, right?



Except for members to access the rewards program, they’ll need to sign up online or via an app handing over their personal data in doing so.

For existing members, Our Medical has clarified that if you want to continue seeing the doctors at their centres, the patient 'will need to join the Rewards program'.

And for those who don't wish to sign on the dotted line or hit the proverbial 'Agree' button, they'll instead be paying a private fee for their medical appointments.


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A chain of GP clinics has been scrutinised for asking patients to share their data in exchange for a bulk billing appointment instead of being out of pocket. Image source: Facebook/Our Medical Gold Coast.



In a blog post, Our Medical highlighted its rewards program, emphasising its core belief in ensuring access to quality healthcare for everyone, wherever and whenever needed.

However, some experts have raised a valid concern: How does this belief align with the company's choice to charge significantly higher fees for individuals who choose not to participate in the rewards program?

This apparent contradiction has sparked a debate about the company's commitment to providing equitable healthcare access.



Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson disagreed with the move. When asked about Our Medical's decision, she said: ‘Some people simply don’t want their data aggregated.’

‘It’s not illegal to say that people who don’t use the app have to pay more. But I think it’s ethically problematic. A clinic that bulk bills is really important to some people. Particularly in this time of rising costs.’

Consumer group CHOICE’s Consumer Data Advocate, Kate Bower, also believes that customers of Our Medical have a right to be upset about the change the chain is demanding.

'These were patients who’d previously been bulk-billed by the clinic and were now being told that they had to sign up to the rewards program or pay a $90 out-of-pocket fee in order to see a doctor,' she told a news source.



In response, Our Medical confirmed that they indeed handle all personal information in accordance with applicable privacy and health records legislation and that their rewards program never uses personal data for commercial purposes or shares it with any third-party groups for financial gain.

On top of that, they state that no further information is captured through the rewards program than in the usual patient registration process.

The medical chain also highlighted the need to accurately confirm a patient's name, mobile number and email address—something they believe the rewards program verification process helps with.

However, this does raise the question of trust. Kate Bower added, ‘Unfortunately, at the moment, we just have to trust what the businesses say.’

Key Takeaways

  • Our Medical, a national bulk-billing GP chain, requires patients to join a rewards plan to access bulk-billed healthcare and, in doing so, hand over their personal data.
  • Our Medical allegedly told existing patients that to continue accessing the medical centres, they would need to join the rewards program or be charged a private fee to see a GP.
  • Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson criticised the move, saying that excluding patients who didn't want to sign up for the program could be ethically problematic.
  • Our Medical claimed that its rewards program would help deliver better quality and accessible healthcare and assured that it would never use personal data for commercial purposes or share it with third parties for financial gain.

Members, if you're ever in a situation where an organisation is trying to get access to your private information in exchange for a service (especially a free one), always take a few moments to read through their privacy policy—and if you see something that's worrying you, feel free to speak to customer service or take your business elsewhere.

In our ever-evolving digital world, whether signing up for a supermarket's loyalty program or a medical clinic's rewards system, it's important to be discerning about the information we share.



Digital privacy is something we should all be protective of, especially when it relates to medical and financial records.

So, before you visit your GP next time, take a moment to weigh up the convenience against the potential consequences. Your privacy should never come with a price tag!

What are your thoughts on this news? Let us know in the comments below!
Great. Now the ones who are supposedly there to look after us are now making rules of payment. pay up or pay up higher. Go to hell.
 
In a recent announcement, the medical chain Our Medical—a national bulk-billing GP chain with locations throughout Victoria, New South Wales, and Queensland—is promoting a range of rewards and discounts for those who sign up for their rewards program.

This includes a free flu vaccine, a $20 dental voucher, a $20 physio voucher and local offers and discounts. It sounds good, right?



Except for members to access the rewards program, they’ll need to sign up online or via an app handing over their personal data in doing so.

For existing members, Our Medical has clarified that if you want to continue seeing the doctors at their centres, the patient 'will need to join the Rewards program'.

And for those who don't wish to sign on the dotted line or hit the proverbial 'Agree' button, they'll instead be paying a private fee for their medical appointments.


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A chain of GP clinics has been scrutinised for asking patients to share their data in exchange for a bulk billing appointment instead of being out of pocket. Image source: Facebook/Our Medical Gold Coast.



In a blog post, Our Medical highlighted its rewards program, emphasising its core belief in ensuring access to quality healthcare for everyone, wherever and whenever needed.

However, some experts have raised a valid concern: How does this belief align with the company's choice to charge significantly higher fees for individuals who choose not to participate in the rewards program?

This apparent contradiction has sparked a debate about the company's commitment to providing equitable healthcare access.



Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson disagreed with the move. When asked about Our Medical's decision, she said: ‘Some people simply don’t want their data aggregated.’

‘It’s not illegal to say that people who don’t use the app have to pay more. But I think it’s ethically problematic. A clinic that bulk bills is really important to some people. Particularly in this time of rising costs.’

Consumer group CHOICE’s Consumer Data Advocate, Kate Bower, also believes that customers of Our Medical have a right to be upset about the change the chain is demanding.

'These were patients who’d previously been bulk-billed by the clinic and were now being told that they had to sign up to the rewards program or pay a $90 out-of-pocket fee in order to see a doctor,' she told a news source.



In response, Our Medical confirmed that they indeed handle all personal information in accordance with applicable privacy and health records legislation and that their rewards program never uses personal data for commercial purposes or shares it with any third-party groups for financial gain.

On top of that, they state that no further information is captured through the rewards program than in the usual patient registration process.

The medical chain also highlighted the need to accurately confirm a patient's name, mobile number and email address—something they believe the rewards program verification process helps with.

However, this does raise the question of trust. Kate Bower added, ‘Unfortunately, at the moment, we just have to trust what the businesses say.’

Key Takeaways

  • Our Medical, a national bulk-billing GP chain, requires patients to join a rewards plan to access bulk-billed healthcare and, in doing so, hand over their personal data.
  • Our Medical allegedly told existing patients that to continue accessing the medical centres, they would need to join the rewards program or be charged a private fee to see a GP.
  • Melbourne University Law School Professor Jeannie Paterson criticised the move, saying that excluding patients who didn't want to sign up for the program could be ethically problematic.
  • Our Medical claimed that its rewards program would help deliver better quality and accessible healthcare and assured that it would never use personal data for commercial purposes or share it with third parties for financial gain.

Members, if you're ever in a situation where an organisation is trying to get access to your private information in exchange for a service (especially a free one), always take a few moments to read through their privacy policy—and if you see something that's worrying you, feel free to speak to customer service or take your business elsewhere.

In our ever-evolving digital world, whether signing up for a supermarket's loyalty program or a medical clinic's rewards system, it's important to be discerning about the information we share.



Digital privacy is something we should all be protective of, especially when it relates to medical and financial records.

So, before you visit your GP next time, take a moment to weigh up the convenience against the potential consequences. Your privacy should never come with a price tag!

What are your thoughts on this news? Let us know in the comments below!
Bloody morons 🙄 personal information for bullshit rewards makes the mind boggle easy way for hacker's to get your information take a long walk 🚶‍♂️ of a short pier idiots 🤬
 
😀🙄  I wonder how you're going to feel years down the track if you do go into this industry you'll be like the rest of us finding out it's one of the most corrupt Industries out there.
Well I spent over 20 years in disability support and lived to tell the tale.

The only trouble with the industry is that it's overrun by nepotistic feminists and lesbians.
 
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Ah the wonders of the digital age, its scams to preform. From today's Vietnam Express International.

"Ngoc Anh, a retail store owner in Hanoi, only realized that her store's QR code had been replaced with another when she failed to receive a customer's payment.
Anh said this happened in late July when a customer tried to pay VND50,000 ($2.10).
Normally, she would get the money and the notification on her phone immediately. But this time the money did not come even after a few minutes.
She asked to see the customer's transaction history and realized the money had gone to a different account, while the customer was adamant they scanned the QR code pasted on the store wall.
"I checked and discovered that a QR code had been pasted on top of mine. I'd heard about it before, but never expected [to fall victim]."
She removed the QR codes she had pasted outside, and since then has had none except at the cashier’s table.
Nguyen Minh, a cafe owner in Vinh Phuc, said he usually places QR codes at tables to make it convenient for customers to pay, but one day discovered that two of them had been replaced.
Since customers were unwilling to pay twice for a drink, he suffered a loss of hundreds of thousands of dong.
QR codes are commonly used for payment in Vietnam.
Their use increased by 151.14% and the payment value by 30.41% in the first five months of this year, according to the State Bank of Vietnam.
The fact that QR codes can be copied and placed at multiple locations has made it easy for fraudsters to replace them with their own.
Ngo Minh Hieu, founder of the anti-scamming project Chong lua dao, said this trick has been detected recently but has not become common yet.
Like in the case of most scams, the bank accounts connected to the rogue QR codes can be fake making the scammer hard to track down. Fake bank accounts can be bought for just VND2-3 million on the black market.
Customers should check bank account names and numbers after scanning the codes to be sure, Hieu said.
Store owners should regularly check security cameras and the codes they put up, he added".
 

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