Outraged Shoppers Spark Fierce Debate on Whether to Pay Unfair $65 Parking Fines – Here's Why You Might Not Have To!

Navigating the car parks of shopping centres can be a tricky affair, especially when time slips away as you wander the aisles or catch up with friends over a coffee. But what happens when you return to your car to find a $65 fine slapped on your windshield for overstaying your welcome? This is the dilemma that has sparked a fiery debate among Australian shoppers, and it's a situation that's all too familiar for one Perth woman.



After a routine visit to the Galleria shopping complex in Perth's northeast, a local shopper was left fuming when she discovered a parking fine for exceeding the free parking limit. Despite being a loyal customer for over two decades, she took to social media to express her disbelief and frustration, igniting a conversation about the enforceability of such fines on privately-owned property.


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People on social media shared fines they've received in private parking garages and questioned their legality. Credit: Reddit


The Galleria's website boasts free parking for customers, but with a catch: there's a time limit of three hours, or five in certain areas. If you overstay, you risk a penalty. The centre insists that this policy is well-signposted throughout the car park, but that hasn't stopped many from questioning the legitimacy of the fines issued.



The debate is a heated one, with some Australians firmly believing that these fines are not legally binding. 'You are not legally obliged to pay these sorts of fines, they cannot be enforced,' one commenter declared. Others shared personal anecdotes of ignoring similar fines with no repercussions, suggesting that these penalties are more bark than bite.

The sentiment is echoed by many who argue that only statutory bodies, such as the police or council parking rangers, have the authority to issue legally enforceable fines. This perspective is not without merit, as private security firms do not hold the same powers as these official entities.

Adding legal weight to the debate, lawyer James Clements has previously shed light on the issue, describing these penalties as 'bullying tactics' and highlighting the difficulty in enforcement. He points out that private parking companies have faced government crackdowns preventing them from accessing driver information to collect fees. Moreover, they must prove who was driving at the time of the infringement, which is not always straightforward.



For those who find themselves in this predicament, Mr. Clements advises either ignoring the fine or disputing it without admitting to being the driver. This could prevent the situation from escalating to court.

However, prevention is better than cure. To avoid the hassle and potential legal tangles, it's wise for drivers to be vigilant about reading signs and understanding the terms and conditions upon entering a private car park. After all, knowledge is power, and in this case, it could save you $65.

At the Seniors Discount Club, we understand that every penny counts, and unexpected fines can be a significant inconvenience. We encourage our members to share their experiences and tips on dealing with parking fines at shopping centres. Have you ever been fined, and if so, did you pay or contest it? Join the conversation in the comments below and let's navigate these murky waters together.



Key Takeaways

  • A Perth woman has expressed her frustration after receiving a $65 parking fine at the Galleria shopping centre for overstaying the free parking limit.
  • The debate continues on social media about the enforceability of parking fines issued on privately-owned property, with many arguing they are not legally binding.
  • Lawyer James Clements stated that only statutory bodies can issue fines, and described the penalties from private car parks as 'bullying tactics' that are difficult to enforce.
  • People took to social media to advise the fined woman not to pay, with some suggesting writing back to dispute the charge, while others recommended ignoring it, highlighting the importance of understanding the terms when parking in a private car park.

Remember, if you're ever unsure about your rights or the best course of action, seeking legal advice can provide clarity and peace of mind. Let's help each other stay informed and empowered!
 
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Again flaunt the rules and pay the fine. Doesn't matter how long you were a customer it's the complex' rules so if you don't like them park somewhere else.
These "fines" are not enforceable in any way, shape or form. They are fobbed off as a breach of contract or some such rubbish by a private business, not a statutory authority.
 
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What would you be doing in a shopping complex for over 3 hours?
Unless it is a double feature movie, you'd be hard pressed to warrant such a stay.
I kind of get the idea. My local Westfield has had this policy in for years. For pensioners and handicapped, the time is expanded after lodging your registration number with the centre, after which, most times there will be nothing to pay.
I had a discussion with someone at the centre about the new system when it came in. The answer was that they had to do something to stop people parking there all day, then, catching a bus/train/or walk to work from there. The practice stopped once they brought in the new system. The centre operates on number plate recognition. When you leave, it scans the plate, and, opens the gate if no payment is required. If you have not paid the required amount, the gate will not open, and operators will not open it until the payment is made at the gate. No fines necessary. I have never had an issue and am a little dismayed that someone would expect special treatment, given the number of cars coming and going in any given day.
In my experience, all centres have to display the range of parking times and charges in a prominent place as the car enters. It's not rocket science.
 
These "fines" are not enforceable in any way, shape or form. They are fobbed off as a breach of contract or some such rubbish by a private business, not a statutory authority.
You are correct I know a few people disregarding parking tickets from Perth airport (ie parking in loading docks) with no repurcussions.
 
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The 3 hr limit at some shopping centres concerns me .... I sometimes visit twice in 1 day, if I park close to previous location, does the system know I left and returned?
 
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The 3 hr limit at some shopping centres concerns me .... I sometimes visit twice in 1 day, if I park close to previous location, does the system know I left and returned?
About 25 years ago, a friend was fined by overstaying the two hour limit in a Nowra council owned and regulated carpark. The trouble was that close to the two hour limit, she moved her car almost 100 metres from the original spot. A total of three hours had elapsed when she returned to her car, to find the infringement notice.

On her behalf, I took the issue up with the Chief Ranger at Shoalhaven City Council, stating that the fine had been illegally issued due to it is a requirement for a vehicle TO OCCUPY THE SAME PARKING SPACE over the two hour time limit.

Ten minutes of consultation resulted in the fine being quashed.
 
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What would you be doing in a shopping complex for over 3 hours?
Unless it is a double feature movie, you'd be hard pressed to warrant such a stay.
I kind of get the idea. My local Westfield has had this policy in for years. For pensioners and handicapped, the time is expanded after lodging your registration number with the centre, after which, most times there will be nothing to pay.
I had a discussion with someone at the centre about the new system when it came in. The answer was that they had to do something to stop people parking there all day, then, catching a bus/train/or walk to work from there. The practice stopped once they brought in the new system. The centre operates on number plate recognition. When you leave, it scans the plate, and, opens the gate if no payment is required. If you have not paid the required amount, the gate will not open, and operators will not open it until the payment is made at the gate. No fines necessary. I have never had an issue and am a little dismayed that someone would expect special treatment, given the number of cars coming and going in any given day.
In my experience, all centres have to display the range of parking times and charges in a prominent place as the car enters. It's not rocket science.
Hairdresser, movie and groceries. Day out maybe.
 
Empowered? Don't you mean Entitled? Regardless of whether the fines are enforceable or not, shopping centres have no obligation to offer free parking at all. Yes, it's an enticement to customers to keep spending. Overstaying the free limit is disrespectful, and whinging on social media is a public display of bad manners.
That's my opinion. I'm old enough to remember good manners.
 
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