Grieving mother slams Centrelink’s ‘unfair’ rule: ‘It's very wrong’

The pain of losing a child is unimaginable, and the grief that follows is a burden no parent should have to bear alone.

Yet, for Patty van Duijn, an Adelaide mother, the heartbreak was compounded by a Centrelink rule that she describes as 'absolutely disgusting’.



Patty was over 19 weeks into her pregnancy when she faced the devastating reality of terminating her pregnancy due to complications.

The loss of her son Mason was a profound trauma, one that was followed by the physical and emotional ordeal of giving birth to a stillborn child.


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Patty criticised Centrelink’s ‘disgusting’ rule. Image source: Shutterstock



But when she sought financial support from Centrelink to help her through this difficult time, she was met with a disappointing response.

Centrelink's Stillborn Baby Payment, a one-off lump sum of $4,059.17 designed to assist grieving parents, requires a gestation period of at least 20 weeks or a birth weight of at least 400 grams.

Mason, at 230 grams and just six days shy of the 20-week mark, did not meet these criteria.

As a result, Patty was deemed ineligible for the payment, forcing her to consider returning to her hospitality job less than two weeks after her loss.



She shared the emotional ordeal to a media outlet, saying, ‘I'm still going through this whole process of giving birth and holding a baby that's not alive. It's very traumatic and really hard, but now I have to think about going back to work.’

Patty criticised the rule as ‘absolutely disgusting’ and shared that it is ‘unfair’ she had undergone similar trauma and grief but was not able to access the help available to mothers in her situation.

‘It shouldn't matter how big or small or how long... it's my baby with arms, ten toes, fingers,’ she said.

‘I'm just unsure of who made this decision, and if they actually know what people go through, but a week shouldn't be a difference because it's still the experience, the trauma and everything that comes with it,’ Patty added.

It is understood that the Department of Social Services set the policy, and while Centrelink cannot grant leniency based on individual circumstances, they have stated that a representative will contact her to explore other supports available.



A spokesperson from the Department of Social Services stated, ‘the Australian Government recognises the tragic loss and trauma of miscarriage.’

‘While a medical professional must certify a stillborn child was delivered for families to receive Stillborn Baby Payment, other supports are available through Services Australia including counselling and support to connect with local services.’

‘And depending on an individual's circumstances and employment, they may also be entitled to paid or unpaid leave following a miscarriage,’ they added.

Patty's situation is further complicated by her medical history of Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD), which contributed to the complications in her pregnancy.

With her partner Lee Simpson working as a chef, the couple is struggling to make ends meet on his salary alone. The emotional toll is immense, and the financial pressure only adds to their distress.



‘It's only been a week and a half and now I have to think about going back to work because we can't afford to pay bills and rent if I don't work,’ she shared.

In response to her situation, Patty has taken action by setting up a GoFundMe page, not only to seek support for herself and Lee but also to raise awareness and advocate for change in the policy.

She hopes that by sharing her story, she can prevent other families from enduring the same hardship.

‘It's very wrong,’ she argued. ‘I want it to be looked into, not for us now, it's too late, but for other people going through this, so they don't have to go through what I am right now.’
Key Takeaways
  • Patty van Duijn from Adelaide experienced the loss of her baby at over 19 weeks but couldn't access Centrelink's Stillborn Baby Payment because she was six days short of the required 20-week gestation period.
  • Centrelink defines a stillborn child as one who has reached at least 20 weeks' gestation or weighs at least 400 grams at birth; Patty's baby weighed 230 grams.
  • Patty criticised the rule as 'absolutely disgusting' and unfair for not considering the trauma and grief experienced by mothers in her situation.
  • Despite her circumstances, Patty has received no leniency from Centrelink, with the Department of Social Services stating other supports are available, and she is now calling for a change to the rule to help others in her position.
Our thoughts and prayers go to Patty and her husband during this difficult time.

What do you think about Centrelink’s Stillborn Baby Payment criteria, members? Share your thoughts in the comments below.
 
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Rules are rules, she didn't meet the criteria. It is not the taxpayers responsibility to pay for their loss (as sad and horrible as it is) it is theirs. If they can't afford to live on one wage then they are living well beyond their means to start with. We have gone through life on one wage only, had 3 kids, brought a property, cars etc and never wanted for anything. My wife also had a full term stillborn baby back in the 1970's, no help from the government there and no sympathy either. Just suck it up and get on with it like we had to.
 
The Government should be willing to come to the rescue. What the heck difference should it have made if the baby was smaller etc. it was the exact same trauma the woman has had to suffer.
Do you think the government should compensate everyone for any trauma they have in their lives. People, thousands of them, suffer trauma every day.
People loose their children to car accidents, drownings, domestic violence, etc etc etc
Do you think the government should compensate them all.
Where do you expect the money to come from?
It's called life, good and bad, we all have to face it someday.
 
What an asshole you are. Where your heart should be there is a rock. One day this will go back on you. How could you be so cold, cruel and heartless. Shame on you.
Not heartless, just a realist. Rules are there to be followed no matter how we might feel about them. This has been the way for generations. A few years ago in the industry I was in, a person had to be 36 weeks when she delivered her baby to get maternity leave. One of the staff delivered at 35 weeks so no maternity leave payment. She sucked it up & got on with life. She did not expect the rest of society to support her & her family at this time even though she had extra stress due to the baby being premature.
My last job was working in the maternity ward of a large public hospital so I do know & understand the grief which women suffer when they lose a baby - no matter what the gestation. However, govt has to set parameters for obtaining assistance or society would go even crazier than it is now.
 
I applied for the age pension in early December last year. Almost six months later, I'm still waiting. I'll be 75 in about another three weeks. Centrelink is not very supportive for anyone in later so I made an appointment, went I. And it was fixed up on the spot.

I applied for the age pension in early December last year. Almost six months later, I'm still waiting. I'll be 75 in about another three weeks. Centrelink is not very supportive for anyone in need.
If you aren’t already, you need to keep going to the CentreLink office and pester them. It’s only time you are wasting and it’s better than waiting around for them to contact you.
 
I am sorry for this woman’s loss.
I know this may be hard to hear but there has to be a point where limits are set by the government, otherwise, tax payers would be paying at lot more tax to cover every conceivable loss that can happen.
 
It seems you are forgetting that Centrelink payments are not government money, it is taxpayers money. It is a parents responsibility to care for, pay for, and be there for children. It is not governments duty nor responsibility.
Unfortunately everyone seems to want a hand out for whatever they want. Most of us who have been through this type of trauma get up and get on with life, hard as it may be.
 
Do you think there should be no rules for anything, that is a rather stupid statement.
I feel extremely sorry for these people, but I received nothing when I lost my child much later on than this.
When you plan to have children you need to be in a financial position to afford them and that includes covering the costs if something goes wrong which I had to do. It never entered my head to think that anyone but ourselves should cover these costs.
Well said.
 
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That's a bit harsh. Do you know anyone who has undergone the psychological and physical trauma of having a stillborn? Probably not.

Then again, you may condone the superfluous handouts given to new immigrants. Do you?
under20 weeks a foetus is considered not viable. That’s where the 20 weeks come from. Anything under this is considered a miscarriage. I’ve had friends have a miscarriage and they didn’t receive any Centrelink payments
 
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you do Veg... Me. 9 miscarriages one, Julie Anne, went to 51/2 months. In those days Australia was NOT a welfare state where everyone is expected to pay for every tear we've ever cried. Wake up folks, this is the real world. I didn't bitch, just went home, tended to family and returned to work.
 
A loss of a child must be horrendous whether miscarriage, stillborn or a child you have cared and loved who then has died, expecting money to be paid to you because of such a gut wrenching time shouldn't be down to the government. To me it is like paying you to have a child, thank you to the Liberal party for introducing that scheme. I send my condolences to the parents but if their child had lived if they are struggling now how would they have coped once the child was born and the child's mother stayed home. Was she entitled to Maternity Leave with pay then what, would have to then gone back to work and started paying for childcare. Regardless of how I write this makes me sound heartless, I am not, my husband and I have a disabled daughter and when she was younger particularly we had to fight for many things to make her life better but what we didn't do is expect handouts from the government.
 
It seems you are forgetting that Centrelink payments are not government money, it is taxpayers money. It is a parents responsibility to care for, pay for, and be there for children. It is not governments duty nor responsibility.
Well put jacksonno2 I can’t get my head around people getting funds for being carers I always thought as a parent you were a carer
 
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Why do people seem to think when something goes wrong in their lives the Government needs to give them a hand. Rules are in place and if you don’t fit the criteria, tough. If her financial position is that precarious why was she having a baby. Kids cost money and the costs are only going to rise as the child gets older. Find out how babies are made, take the necessary precautions, get rid of the world owes me attitude, and work and save for what you want like the rest of us.
 
This is not a Centrelink definition.

I am sorry for those who don't meet criteria in difficult circumstances, but then, when we had a similar tragedy over 30 years ago, there was no such support.
 

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