Economist proposes controversial change to superannuation: ‘It’s a really ugly mark’

As we navigate the ever-evolving landscape of retirement planning, a new debate has emerged that could potentially reshape the future of Australia's superannuation system.

The topic of superannuation is always a hot one, especially for those who are looking towards retirement or are already enjoying their golden years.

But what if the system as we know it was on the brink of a radical transformation?



An independent economist, Cameron Murray of Fresh Economic Thinking, has sparked a conversation that's causing quite a stir among retirees and those nearing retirement.

Murray has proposed a bold move: abolishing compulsory superannuation and returning the funds to Australians to manage themselves.


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Economist Cameron Murray has suggested a controversial plan for superannuation. Credit: Shutterstock


This suggestion comes with a critical look at the current system, which he claims is riddled with high administrative costs and fees, amounting to a staggering $30 billion to $40 billion a year.

'It's become quite a gravy train, and there are $30billion or $40billion reasons a year to keep the show on the road,’ he said.

'There's plenty of middle management positions, with titles such as "director of modernisation" or whatever the current trend is.’

He goes as far as to label fund managers as 'spreadsheet monkeys’, saying, ‘You get a little team and you sit there and bore your mates get some nice Powerpoints to reassure everyone the fund is being nice. It's ridiculous.’

The economist's critique extends to the origins of compulsory superannuation, introduced in 1992 by the Keating Labor government.

Murray highlighted a perceived contradiction in the Labor party's stance, which on one hand, privatises retirement savings, while on the other, claims to secure extra benefits for workers from employers.



'It's a really ugly mark on the Labor party, they have a two-faced view here,' Murray said.

'When it suits them for the base, they go, "We're winning for you, we're getting extra out of the nasty employers, super is something extra".’

'Whereas to the treasury and policy nerds, they say this is just diverting wages from bank account A to bank account B where a fund manager gets to do what they want with it until the contributor are 60 or whatever the age it is.'

Murray also revisited the original intent behind superannuation, which was to defer spending and control inflation by deferring wage increases into non-spendable accounts.

He suggests that this approach is outdated and that freeing up the money tied in super could stimulate economic growth and support a more robust and accessible retirement pension system.



The economist's views are not without their supporters. He nods to the Coalition's proposal allowing individuals to withdraw up to $50,000 of their super (up to 40 per cent of their balance) to purchase their first home.

‘A house is the best asset to own in retirement,' he said.

'In Singapore, with their compulsory savings system, their first objective is to own a house outright.’

'In Australia, you are not allowed to use super to buy a property for yourself when you are young and need a house, but you can buy property for someone else with a self-managed fund.'

However, he also pointed out the inequities in the system, such as the different ages for accessing super and the age pension.



'I think it is ridiculous you can get your super at 60 and the pension at 67,' he said.

'You've got rich people having seven years to spend their tax-advantaged savings before they can claim the government pension.

'It's a total boomer middle-class scam. You should have the same ages at a minimum.'



Murray's solution? A phased withdrawal of super funds, with annual spending limits to prevent a sudden spending spree that could destabilise the economy.

'You can't just let everyone spend all the money at once,' he said.

'There would be this huge spending spree because everyone under 30 would spend $50,000 extra this year.’

'You need to have an annual spending limit to empty the accounts over a four to five-year period for people who want to empty them.'

He also mentioned that there could be random spot checks to confirm companies are including super in salary payments.
Key Takeaways
  • Independent Economist Cameron Murray proposes the abolition of compulsory superannuation, calling it a costly 'gravy train.'
  • Murray criticises the administrative costs and fees associated with super funds, estimating them to be around $30 billion to $40 billion a year.
  • He suggests that funds should be returned to Australians to manage themselves and that a stronger pension system could be more effective.
  • Murray also points out the contradiction in the Labor Party's stance on superannuation and proposes allowing people greater access to their super funds for purposes like buying a first home.
How do you feel about the potential changes to superannuation? Are you in favour of managing your own retirement funds, or do you trust the current system to work in your best interest? Share them with us in the comments below!
 

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I'm of the thinking why should your employer pay for your retirement, it should be abolished and put back into the people them selves hands, if you are a moron and don't bother to save for the future there is always the poltrey Age Pension. My Opinion.
 
Here is an idea that I think would work and lover to hear some feedback.
1. You put into the superfund of your choice.
2. Government announces max fees for all superfunds and also publicizes every superfund with fees charge every year on 31st May. (Similar to Healthfunds only better)
3. Any fee change can only be announced on the 30th of April to become effective 1 July. ( This gives people a month to change funds and will make Superfunds more efficient)
4. Anytime you can take out any or all of your super from the superfund to purchase your home on the proviso that the house is mortgaged to the superfund and the bank.
5. If you sell the house, the superfund gets your super money back.
This way you can buy a house but even if you sell the house, you are still covered for your retirement!
 
If they close compulsory superannuation there will be more poverty in senior years. Many people would not plan for the future and use their money as they get it. and setting up a plan to ensure everyone owns a home is a dream who is going to finance it not the banks and when you look at their business is just as lucrative as the super companies.
Yes.
 
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An independent economist, Cameron Murray of Fresh Economic Thinking,-- just another word for a paid LNP mouth piece. The LNP have been trying ever since the ALP bought in super to get the funds out of Union control and into the hands of the financial sector like the banks . When this paid entertainer talks about account keeping fees , he is talking about those super funds that are bank controlled and not industry controlled , because industry keeps a lid on charges and reinvests the funds for the benefit of the members , not investors
Scomo opened the door when he allowed dearly withdrawals for housing deposits and now that those that took his advice are seeing how they will lose out on retirement, that was a dud scheme, designed to undermine the system.
Now they try it again with this institute calling for the abolition of super and let the workers manage their own funds-- Like we all know that will work out , but it was worth a try by the LNP especially coming up in an election year
They must have the workers shackled to the managers at all cost, and such policies as removing everything the unions have achieved , increasing banking fees by charging people for cash withdrawals , for getting rid of cash so the surcharge on plastic can be increased, talking lies and more bullshit to confuse the voters
This man and his institution are not for real and anyone who agrees with his talk really needs to take a breather and see where it is all from, as it is all from the same snake oil factory as before.
Yes smoke & mirrors perhaps!
 
Some years ago I moved into a different line of work. I worked for a market gardener mostly lettuce and some rock-melons.He did not know any better and set up a new account. Over a 2 year period over $1000 was paid into this new account. When I eventually had it transferred into my Host-Plus account I was left with $427. This was because of life insurance that I did not know was being deducted. I only found out because I later did some work for another market gardener . A few weeks later I received a letter from another superannuation account that had been set up for me was out of funds because of life insurance deductions. I wrote back stating this was breaching the laws of Unconscionable Business behaviour and they agreed to refund and pay into my Host- Plus.
This is what I don't understand. Labor set up compulsory industry superannuation and called for a Royal Commission Enquiry to the finance industry. When the Coalition Government legislates changes to superannuation, Labor votes against it. In other words they are in favour of multiple superannuation accounts. How stupid is that?
 
This is the kind of policy proposal that comes out of Right Wing think tanks. And the losers are always the less well off. We cannot move back to a system where the well off are able to fund their later years but the rest have to rely on ever diminishing public pensions. Compulsory super was one of the best things to be introduced for workers which is why the Right has continued to attack it.
 
Thank goodness for my super. I had a good Government Super which has meant that I am still quite financial afterc 20 years of retirement. If Super hadn’t been in force I doubt I would have added the extra as my employer did. So I am happy with it
 
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Morning all
In some European countries the super scheme is govt run. When you start work you start paying super into a fund: blue collar have their fund, White collar, professional and so forth. When you change group you funds then move across as well.
When retirement is reached your super then gets paid as a monthly payment of 70-80% of your last yearly income. This is a LIVING income. In Austria your super/pension is calulated into 14 payments (1 extra in June for summer holidays and 1 at Christmas).
The super scheme is govt run and woe betide any pollie that even thinks about dipping into it.
 
I believe super should be upheld but the companies holding our super should be accountable for a minimal amount of growth. Currently there is no accountability for super funds. I am currently self retired and only due to my super.
 
I have to say that this comes across as a party-politicised commentary. Thumbs down to Seniors Discount Club for not seeing this and allowing this sort of article.

I am all in favour of making super funds more efficient and reducing overheads and rip-off fees that they pass on to the customer. Who wouldn't be? That part of the article is so obvious it is barely news.

But the other part is just plain dangerous. Wouldn't it be lovely if we all had the discipline (and spare money after cost of living) to save sufficiently for our retirements without any rules? But we don't, and that has been proven by the state of affairs that preceded the mandated super rules. So the real effect of this proposal would be more people unable to fund their retirements, even partially. The less well-off get increasingly so.

But the "fresh thinker" who came up with this proposal doesn't care about that. He cares about costs to employers, and releasing money from savings so it can be spent on consumption, today. It's a GREAT idea for employers who resent every dollar paid to staff, and a GREAT idea for the retail sector who want us to buy, buy, buy and do it now, now, now.

Which all seems a bit too party-political for me.
THE WANT IT NOW GENERATION ARE NEVER GOING TO SAVE MONEY ANY WAY, IT WILL ALWAYS BE SPEND IT WHILE YOU GOT IT. AND THANKS TO CREDIT CARDS, BEFORE YOU GOT IT.
 
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I can see a push from the government ever so slowly to get people to buy their own homes using some of their super as a deposit.
reading between the lines, I feel down the track when your near to retirement, your home may have to be sold to finance your retirement.
There has been little hints every now and then to test the waters.
if at the time of your retirement you have equity in your home then you maybe forced to use it before you receive any pay from the government.
This may even force older people to live with their children as in Asian .countries
It would take a very brave government from either side to do that.
 
On one hand, there are too many profit-oriented superfund managers aiming to increase shareholder value that competes with our super contribution funding, but on the other hand, placing that super into my private savings account means extra tax on the interest earned.
 
It’s not the super that’s the problem it’s the middle money pigs with false titles in a job that doesn’t exist that need to disappear, they should send in a toe chopper and clean up the companies that handle our supers with money wasting jobs that don’t really exist.
 
A backward step in my opinion ! The Gov are also intending to abolish the pension.
So where does that leave people who can’t work disabled, chronically sick etc people on the poverty line, and on a minimum wage,they won’t be able to organise and save for their old age. NO leave it alone. Some want to make Australia purely for the well off, kill off the old and infirm they cost too much !!
 
Super is just another rort because the wealthier you are the more benefit you get from it.
A universal pension would be far more equitable and would cost the government less than what it loses with all the super tax concessions it gives.
 
I am happy with my super arrangement which allowed for my employer to contribute to it. And meant I could pay off my house when I retired.
 
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not many people remember that in the fifty 's when we started work. we had two deductions from our payslip one was tax and the other was social security , as a young person I queried this and was told that when I get old and retired I would get a pension (thats why its called a pension) not welfare, not a very good answer to a 14 year old, but somewhere along the way the second deduction from our payslip was lumped in with tax, (STILL THE SAME PAY) and I believe at some stage the gov changed the system to make the "pension act like a charity and only give it to certain folk...they forgot to change the name from PENSION to WELFARE, a completely different meaning, Iwas accused by someone at the pension office as feeling ENTITLED to a pension ...which I was, as they originally started ...so what about the deductions from my pay up to the time they changed it..also why is it called a PENSION as I is dished out as a welfare payment only for poverty dwellers, what's next do we wear old rags when we go begging for our pension...they got quite upset when they found I drove a Mercedes...how dare I! I my friend (pensioner )had a Mazda (no problem)..cost $$57000 no prob, my Mercedes cost $11000 (problem). I eventually got my pension after a fight ,I stopped short of begging, I think they were disappointed ...I notice this SDC issue the hooks are out for the govt to work at getting thier grubby hands on our super ..they will do the same as the 'PENSION" but this time they might remember to change the name from super to welfare and let us beg for it
 
I think that there would be a lot of people ending up with little or no super because they spend most or all of their super. Having all of that cash available can be a little tempting for the unwary.
 

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