Economist proposes controversial change to superannuation: ‘It’s a really ugly mark’

As we navigate the ever-evolving landscape of retirement planning, a new debate has emerged that could potentially reshape the future of Australia's superannuation system.

The topic of superannuation is always a hot one, especially for those who are looking towards retirement or are already enjoying their golden years.

But what if the system as we know it was on the brink of a radical transformation?



An independent economist, Cameron Murray of Fresh Economic Thinking, has sparked a conversation that's causing quite a stir among retirees and those nearing retirement.

Murray has proposed a bold move: abolishing compulsory superannuation and returning the funds to Australians to manage themselves.


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Economist Cameron Murray has suggested a controversial plan for superannuation. Credit: Shutterstock


This suggestion comes with a critical look at the current system, which he claims is riddled with high administrative costs and fees, amounting to a staggering $30 billion to $40 billion a year.

'It's become quite a gravy train, and there are $30billion or $40billion reasons a year to keep the show on the road,’ he said.

'There's plenty of middle management positions, with titles such as "director of modernisation" or whatever the current trend is.’

He goes as far as to label fund managers as 'spreadsheet monkeys’, saying, ‘You get a little team and you sit there and bore your mates get some nice Powerpoints to reassure everyone the fund is being nice. It's ridiculous.’

The economist's critique extends to the origins of compulsory superannuation, introduced in 1992 by the Keating Labor government.

Murray highlighted a perceived contradiction in the Labor party's stance, which on one hand, privatises retirement savings, while on the other, claims to secure extra benefits for workers from employers.



'It's a really ugly mark on the Labor party, they have a two-faced view here,' Murray said.

'When it suits them for the base, they go, "We're winning for you, we're getting extra out of the nasty employers, super is something extra".’

'Whereas to the treasury and policy nerds, they say this is just diverting wages from bank account A to bank account B where a fund manager gets to do what they want with it until the contributor are 60 or whatever the age it is.'

Murray also revisited the original intent behind superannuation, which was to defer spending and control inflation by deferring wage increases into non-spendable accounts.

He suggests that this approach is outdated and that freeing up the money tied in super could stimulate economic growth and support a more robust and accessible retirement pension system.



The economist's views are not without their supporters. He nods to the Coalition's proposal allowing individuals to withdraw up to $50,000 of their super (up to 40 per cent of their balance) to purchase their first home.

‘A house is the best asset to own in retirement,' he said.

'In Singapore, with their compulsory savings system, their first objective is to own a house outright.’

'In Australia, you are not allowed to use super to buy a property for yourself when you are young and need a house, but you can buy property for someone else with a self-managed fund.'

However, he also pointed out the inequities in the system, such as the different ages for accessing super and the age pension.



'I think it is ridiculous you can get your super at 60 and the pension at 67,' he said.

'You've got rich people having seven years to spend their tax-advantaged savings before they can claim the government pension.

'It's a total boomer middle-class scam. You should have the same ages at a minimum.'



Murray's solution? A phased withdrawal of super funds, with annual spending limits to prevent a sudden spending spree that could destabilise the economy.

'You can't just let everyone spend all the money at once,' he said.

'There would be this huge spending spree because everyone under 30 would spend $50,000 extra this year.’

'You need to have an annual spending limit to empty the accounts over a four to five-year period for people who want to empty them.'

He also mentioned that there could be random spot checks to confirm companies are including super in salary payments.
Key Takeaways
  • Independent Economist Cameron Murray proposes the abolition of compulsory superannuation, calling it a costly 'gravy train.'
  • Murray criticises the administrative costs and fees associated with super funds, estimating them to be around $30 billion to $40 billion a year.
  • He suggests that funds should be returned to Australians to manage themselves and that a stronger pension system could be more effective.
  • Murray also points out the contradiction in the Labor Party's stance on superannuation and proposes allowing people greater access to their super funds for purposes like buying a first home.
How do you feel about the potential changes to superannuation? Are you in favour of managing your own retirement funds, or do you trust the current system to work in your best interest? Share them with us in the comments below!
 

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No matter what way you go you will always have people who will make a profit out of others money. As they say the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
 
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15% is taken money when money going into Accumulation Funds. Another 10% Tax is now proposed in retirement.25% overall. This is a higher tax rate than many people earn either not retired or retired. Remember the Tax threshold is about $18500 where no tax is paid. This will hit the poorer people particularly hard , especially women. Fair Grandfather clauses would be esential.
 
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I believe Super should stay. As a self funded retiree who relies on Super income account payments, I am no burden to the Government. However. I am denied the concessions available to pensioners despite not being dependent on Government hand-outs. The concessions shold be available for all pension age retirees.
 
I believe Super should stay. As a self funded retiree who relies on Super income account payments, I am no burden to the Government. However. I am denied the concessions available to pensioners despite not being dependent on Government hand-outs. The concessions should be available for all pension age retirees.
I totally agree. I contacted my Member of Parliament about this, but haven't had a word of reply . . . obviously in the too-hard basket!
 
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An independent economist, Cameron Murray of Fresh Economic Thinking,-- just another word for a paid LNP mouth piece. The LNP have been trying ever since the ALP bought in super to get the funds out of Union control and into the hands of the financial sector like the banks . When this paid entertainer talks about account keeping fees , he is talking about those super funds that are bank controlled and not industry controlled , because industry keeps a lid on charges and reinvests the funds for the benefit of the members , not investors
Scomo opened the door when he allowed dearly withdrawals for housing deposits and now that those that took his advice are seeing how they will lose out on retirement, that was a dud scheme, designed to undermine the system.
Now they try it again with this institute calling for the abolition of super and let the workers manage their own funds-- Like we all know that will work out , but it was worth a try by the LNP especially coming up in an election year
They must have the workers shackled to the managers at all cost, and such policies as removing everything the unions have achieved , increasing banking fees by charging people for cash withdrawals , for getting rid of cash so the surcharge on plastic can be increased, talking lies and more bullshit to confuse the voters
This man and his institution are not for real and anyone who agrees with his talk really needs to take a breather and see where it is all from, as it is all from the same snake oil factory as before.
Couldn't agree more! My first reaction when I started reading the article was that it was inspired by the right-wing of politics.
 
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If everyone paid tax, we wouldn't need Super. It's funny as we wouldn't need GST either. It's an easy fix everyone pays 10% tax on income with no deductions.
 
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I think super has to stay. I didn't make my preservation age of 60 let alone retirement age of 67 due to chronic illness. I would not have saved for my retirement whilst working. While I was working I built up a good super nest egg. I'm now receiving a super stream & not a burden to anyone. Possibly the government needs to look at fixing charges for super funds & tightening rules for the wealthy. They also need to look at the transparency of super like insurance. I would not like to be relying on the age pension when I'm eligible
 
If they close compulsory superannuation there will be more poverty in senior years. Many people would not plan for the future and use their money as they get it. and setting up a plan to ensure everyone owns a home is a dream who is going to finance it not the banks and when you look at their business is just as lucrative as the super companies.
My sister practically did that. They accessed their super early and have completely drained them dry and now have nothing to fall back on when they are going to need it. Leave Super as it is.
 
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There are a lot of good points here,especially allowing part of your super to be used to purchase your first home. I wish it was happening now then we wouldn’t be trying to pay a mortgage on my pension. As for the difference in the pension age and access to your super, I think it stinks, why was the pension age lifted in the first place? Bob Hawke made it compulsory but the big superannuation companies will try to stop this from happening.
 
I think super has to stay. I didn't make my preservation age of 60 let alone retirement age of 67 due to chronic illness. I would not have saved for my retirement whilst working. While I was working I built up a good super nest egg. I'm now receiving a super stream & not a burden to anyone. Possibly the government needs to look at fixing charges for super funds & tightening rules for the wealthy. They also need to look at the transparency of super like insurance. I would not like to be relying on the age pension when I'm eligible
I am, but because I worked for a crook, 5 years worth of superannuation disappeared when he went bankrupt so now I have to rely on the pension.
 
just another excuse on ways to steal your money... WEF and the others trying to control us dont us to be self sufficient and have money in the banks, remember :You will own nothing eat bugs and be happy:
 
An independent economist, Cameron Murray of Fresh Economic Thinking,-- just another word for a paid LNP mouth piece. The LNP have been trying ever since the ALP bought in super to get the funds out of Union control and into the hands of the financial sector like the banks . When this paid entertainer talks about account keeping fees , he is talking about those super funds that are bank controlled and not industry controlled , because industry keeps a lid on charges and reinvests the funds for the benefit of the members , not investors
Scomo opened the door when he allowed dearly withdrawals for housing deposits and now that those that took his advice are seeing how they will lose out on retirement, that was a dud scheme, designed to undermine the system.
Now they try it again with this institute calling for the abolition of super and let the workers manage their own funds-- Like we all know that will work out , but it was worth a try by the LNP especially coming up in an election year
They must have the workers shackled to the managers at all cost, and such policies as removing everything the unions have achieved , increasing banking fees by charging people for cash withdrawals , for getting rid of cash so the surcharge on plastic can be increased, talking lies and more bullshit to confuse the voters
This man and his institution are not for real and anyone who agrees with his talk really needs to take a breather and see where it is all from, as it is all from the same snake oil factory as before.
Abso bloody lutely agree with you on all points
 
Hi All, well first of all it was Bob Hawk that introduced the superannuation to the country and second my father Douglas Dow was the inventor of it, In the 1970’s my father introduced it to the mining company of Cliffs Robe River Iron Associates which was an American company at the time. My father took it to his Electrical union and they loved the idea, the company loved it too. Anyway my father and Bob Hawk were good mates and Bob found out about the Provident Fund and he wanted to take it to all Australian’s and that’s how we have Super today, Keating was against it.
Of course Keating was against it the idea was not his nor did it originate with the the LNP, we have a lot to thank your Father for his vision of a better retirement, for everyone not just the wealthy.
 
What a stupid idea. Most of the money 'returned to Australians to self mange' would be spent on living. Every one is screaming how tight money is.
I don't mind the administrative costs, the bottom line is what percentage am I getting for my super balance. For the last ten years my super fund has been giving me a 9 to 10% return on balance. I am now retired and stream a regular amount each month from my fund. It boosts my pension and the interest on my balance puts back half of the streamed amount. I'm not rich, but I am comfortable.
 
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I'm in favour of small government and personal responsibility, so I'm a fan. Bureaucracy is costing us billions and causing a productivity crisis. Go for it
 
This could be said for a lot of systems, Health Insurance is a fine example of companies being formed to collect money and then tell us how much we can spend on a particular expense.
 
It would be better to pay 20% of gross earnings each pay day after tax into the Federal Government as your superannuation. On retirement you receive the average basic wage for the remainder of your life. The average basic wage is the figure that comes from Bureau of Statistics, it has always been substantially higher than the actual basic wage.
Your proposal is flawed. It is hardly fair for 2 people one contributing 20% of say $100000 per year and the other say 20% of $50000 per year getting the same pension per year when retired IMHO!! Surely the first should get twice the pension as the second?
 
Yes this would be a good move to abolish SUPERANNUATION ! Reasons being that there is too much TEMPTATION for Governments to confiscate the funds which the workers have painfully contributed for their retirement , to FUNNEL THOSE FUNDS TO OTHER government projects as what happened when JOHN HOWARD and PETER COSTELLO were in office.!! There is also currently an enormous INVESTIGATION which is affecting a member of my family where the SUPER that was requested to be paid was found to be STOLEN via an email scam which diverted the $$$ to a scammer, allegedly an 'inside job' and 8 years later this person still hasn't received the SUPER ..to which they need to BUY A PROPERTY ! This is not GOOD ENOUGH and the SUPER FUNDS to which thic person is ENTITLRD ,..ie THEIR MONEY must be RELEASED This is shameful that this type of THEFT can exist in GOVERNMENT ! SUPERANNUATION IS NOT THE PRIVATE BANK FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO USE TO PROP UP THEIR PROJECTS..
DZUDI,

Can you name which super fund that was. Everyone here I'm sure would be interested! Thanks.
 

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