Economist proposes controversial change to superannuation: ‘It’s a really ugly mark’

As we navigate the ever-evolving landscape of retirement planning, a new debate has emerged that could potentially reshape the future of Australia's superannuation system.

The topic of superannuation is always a hot one, especially for those who are looking towards retirement or are already enjoying their golden years.

But what if the system as we know it was on the brink of a radical transformation?



An independent economist, Cameron Murray of Fresh Economic Thinking, has sparked a conversation that's causing quite a stir among retirees and those nearing retirement.

Murray has proposed a bold move: abolishing compulsory superannuation and returning the funds to Australians to manage themselves.


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Economist Cameron Murray has suggested a controversial plan for superannuation. Credit: Shutterstock


This suggestion comes with a critical look at the current system, which he claims is riddled with high administrative costs and fees, amounting to a staggering $30 billion to $40 billion a year.

'It's become quite a gravy train, and there are $30billion or $40billion reasons a year to keep the show on the road,’ he said.

'There's plenty of middle management positions, with titles such as "director of modernisation" or whatever the current trend is.’

He goes as far as to label fund managers as 'spreadsheet monkeys’, saying, ‘You get a little team and you sit there and bore your mates get some nice Powerpoints to reassure everyone the fund is being nice. It's ridiculous.’

The economist's critique extends to the origins of compulsory superannuation, introduced in 1992 by the Keating Labor government.

Murray highlighted a perceived contradiction in the Labor party's stance, which on one hand, privatises retirement savings, while on the other, claims to secure extra benefits for workers from employers.



'It's a really ugly mark on the Labor party, they have a two-faced view here,' Murray said.

'When it suits them for the base, they go, "We're winning for you, we're getting extra out of the nasty employers, super is something extra".’

'Whereas to the treasury and policy nerds, they say this is just diverting wages from bank account A to bank account B where a fund manager gets to do what they want with it until the contributor are 60 or whatever the age it is.'

Murray also revisited the original intent behind superannuation, which was to defer spending and control inflation by deferring wage increases into non-spendable accounts.

He suggests that this approach is outdated and that freeing up the money tied in super could stimulate economic growth and support a more robust and accessible retirement pension system.



The economist's views are not without their supporters. He nods to the Coalition's proposal allowing individuals to withdraw up to $50,000 of their super (up to 40 per cent of their balance) to purchase their first home.

‘A house is the best asset to own in retirement,' he said.

'In Singapore, with their compulsory savings system, their first objective is to own a house outright.’

'In Australia, you are not allowed to use super to buy a property for yourself when you are young and need a house, but you can buy property for someone else with a self-managed fund.'

However, he also pointed out the inequities in the system, such as the different ages for accessing super and the age pension.



'I think it is ridiculous you can get your super at 60 and the pension at 67,' he said.

'You've got rich people having seven years to spend their tax-advantaged savings before they can claim the government pension.

'It's a total boomer middle-class scam. You should have the same ages at a minimum.'



Murray's solution? A phased withdrawal of super funds, with annual spending limits to prevent a sudden spending spree that could destabilise the economy.

'You can't just let everyone spend all the money at once,' he said.

'There would be this huge spending spree because everyone under 30 would spend $50,000 extra this year.’

'You need to have an annual spending limit to empty the accounts over a four to five-year period for people who want to empty them.'

He also mentioned that there could be random spot checks to confirm companies are including super in salary payments.
Key Takeaways
  • Independent Economist Cameron Murray proposes the abolition of compulsory superannuation, calling it a costly 'gravy train.'
  • Murray criticises the administrative costs and fees associated with super funds, estimating them to be around $30 billion to $40 billion a year.
  • He suggests that funds should be returned to Australians to manage themselves and that a stronger pension system could be more effective.
  • Murray also points out the contradiction in the Labor Party's stance on superannuation and proposes allowing people greater access to their super funds for purposes like buying a first home.
How do you feel about the potential changes to superannuation? Are you in favour of managing your own retirement funds, or do you trust the current system to work in your best interest? Share them with us in the comments below!
 

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First Point is that a lot of people are not able to Manage and administer there Super Fund.
Leaving it as is and setting a Max Capital amount that the larger Management groups use as a Gravy train seems a better idea especially if they are Audited.
Introduce the ability to buy your own home which should be Audited to show you are not renting it out will help younger people get into the Housing Market.
The less any government has to do with management of your Super the better for us.
 
If they close compulsory superannuation there will be more poverty in senior years. Many people would not plan for the future and use their money as they get it. and setting up a plan to ensure everyone owns a home is a dream who is going to finance it not the banks and when you look at their business is just as lucrative as the super companies.
 
An independent economist, Cameron Murray of Fresh Economic Thinking,-- just another word for a paid LNP mouth piece. The LNP have been trying ever since the ALP bought in super to get the funds out of Union control and into the hands of the financial sector like the banks . When this paid entertainer talks about account keeping fees , he is talking about those super funds that are bank controlled and not industry controlled , because industry keeps a lid on charges and reinvests the funds for the benefit of the members , not investors
Scomo opened the door when he allowed dearly withdrawals for housing deposits and now that those that took his advice are seeing how they will lose out on retirement, that was a dud scheme, designed to undermine the system.
Now they try it again with this institute calling for the abolition of super and let the workers manage their own funds-- Like we all know that will work out , but it was worth a try by the LNP especially coming up in an election year
They must have the workers shackled to the managers at all cost, and such policies as removing everything the unions have achieved , increasing banking fees by charging people for cash withdrawals , for getting rid of cash so the surcharge on plastic can be increased, talking lies and more bullshit to confuse the voters
This man and his institution are not for real and anyone who agrees with his talk really needs to take a breather and see where it is all from, as it is all from the same snake oil factory as before.
 
Absolutely amazing idea.
Can imagine the Scammers sitting back rubbing their hands at this suggestion.
Too many fools out there who are willing to click on unsolicited links and hand over all their private details to someone they don’t know and you expect them to look after their own investments?
 
People should be allowed to withdraw a house deposit for their first home, at least what they have deposited into it. Sadly some people will not save what they would have invested into super but will spend it on bad habits. People who could not work for legitimate medical reasons will still need Govt. support to live on basic essential food, and in some cases medications. Not all are on PBS and have no cheap alternatives.
 
I think superannuation needs to stay. Even today, some retired people don't have superannuation and need to rely on the Govt. pension. If people saved, there would be no issue in later years, however it doesn't always seem to happen.
"Economist Cameron Murray suggests that funds should be returned to Australians to manage themselves and that a stronger pension system could be more effective."
Not sure what that plan would be, but they better outline the changes more effectively than sweeping statements if it is going to happen.
 
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It would be better to pay 20% of gross earnings each pay day after tax into the Federal Government as your superannuation. On retirement you receive the average basic wage for the remainder of your life. The average basic wage is the figure that comes from Bureau of Statistics, it has always been substantially higher than the actual basic wage.
 
Yes this would be a good move to abolish SUPERANNUATION ! Reasons being that there is too much TEMPTATION for Governments to confiscate the funds which the workers have painfully contributed for their retirement , to FUNNEL THOSE FUNDS TO OTHER government projects as what happened when JOHN HOWARD and PETER COSTELLO were in office.!! There is also currently an enormous INVESTIGATION which is affecting a member of my family where the SUPER that was requested to be paid was found to be STOLEN via an email scam which diverted the $$$ to a scammer, allegedly an 'inside job' and 8 years later this person still hasn't received the SUPER ..to which they need to BUY A PROPERTY ! This is not GOOD ENOUGH and the SUPER FUNDS to which thic person is ENTITLRD ,..ie THEIR MONEY must be RELEASED This is shameful that this type of THEFT can exist in GOVERNMENT ! SUPERANNUATION IS NOT THE PRIVATE BANK FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO USE TO PROP UP THEIR PROJECTS..
 
It would be better to pay 20% of gross earnings each pay day after tax into the Federal Government as your superannuation. On retirement you receive the average basic wage for the remainder of your life. The average basic wage is the figure that comes from Bureau of Statistics, it has always been substantially higher than the actual basic wage.
That system was in place when my grandfather was a headmaster with public schools. On retirement, he received a weekly sum until he passed away. There were downsides with it.
 
I have to say that this comes across as a party-politicised commentary. Thumbs down to Seniors Discount Club for not seeing this and allowing this sort of article.

I am all in favour of making super funds more efficient and reducing overheads and rip-off fees that they pass on to the customer. Who wouldn't be? That part of the article is so obvious it is barely news.

But the other part is just plain dangerous. Wouldn't it be lovely if we all had the discipline (and spare money after cost of living) to save sufficiently for our retirements without any rules? But we don't, and that has been proven by the state of affairs that preceded the mandated super rules. So the real effect of this proposal would be more people unable to fund their retirements, even partially. The less well-off get increasingly so.

But the "fresh thinker" who came up with this proposal doesn't care about that. He cares about costs to employers, and releasing money from savings so it can be spent on consumption, today. It's a GREAT idea for employers who resent every dollar paid to staff, and a GREAT idea for the retail sector who want us to buy, buy, buy and do it now, now, now.

Which all seems a bit too party-political for me.
 
It would be better to pay 20% of gross earnings each pay day after tax into the Federal Government as your superannuation. On retirement you receive the average basic wage for the remainder of your life. The average basic wage is the figure that comes from Bureau of Statistics, it has always been substantially higher than the actual basic wage.
There was such a scheme when my mother started working in Australia during the early '60s.

I believe, that it was noted on your payslips and declared in your group certificate at tax time.

However, somewhere along the way the government of the day decided to stop reporting it on these documents, but assured everyone that this was just a simplification of the documentation, and nothing else had changed.

Then, years later when people started retiring and asked for their money they got told off by the 'new' government that they were only entitled to the age pension, because they had been careless for not saving money for retirement during their working life.

My mother, being a bookkeeper still had some of the documents detailing the payments made by her.

But she made the mistake of handing them to someone, claiming to be sent to 'investigate' the matter.

Naturally this person took them away and neither she, nor the documents, ever returned.


As for getting rid of compulsory super, what a terrible idea. How else is the ALP going to get the 'voluntary' investment of workers money to build their green schemes.

Remember "past performance is no guarantee of future performance".

DEI policies in superannuation investment companies is all about making sure that everyone has equitable outcomes, regardless if some of them never made any contributions to the inputs.
 
Hi All, well first of all it was Bob Hawk that introduced the superannuation to the country and second my father Douglas Dow was the inventor of it, In the 1970’s my father introduced it to the mining company of Cliffs Robe River Iron Associates which was an American company at the time. My father took it to his Electrical union and they loved the idea, the company loved it too. Anyway my father and Bob Hawk were good mates and Bob found out about the Provident Fund and he wanted to take it to all Australian’s and that’s how we have Super today, Keating was against it.
 
If they close compulsory superannuation there will be more poverty in senior years. Many people would not plan for the future and use their money as they get it. and setting up a plan to ensure everyone owns a home is a dream who is going to finance it not the banks and when you look at their business is just as lucrative as the super companies.
This was my thinking, many who live on minimum wage wouldn't self-fund, they'd just use it for bills.
 
I can see a push from the government ever so slowly to get people to buy their own homes using some of their super as a deposit.
reading between the lines, I feel down the track when your near to retirement, your home may have to be sold to finance your retirement.
There has been little hints every now and then to test the waters.
if at the time of your retirement you have equity in your home then you maybe forced to use it before you receive any pay from the government.
This may even force older people to live with their children as in Asian .countries
 
Management of money should be taught in schools at all levels. There are too many people that have very little to no knowledge of money management around today, they would be seriously disadvantaged if this happened. As previously commented, the scammers would love it, the banks can't wait to get their hands on more of your money {more fees} Insurance is a rort, after the weather events, some have increased rates by 1000 percent, they don't want to lose their pot of gold! The list goes on. Too many greedy people in the wrong jobs. Government can't be trusted.
 

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