Controversial driving move by ute driver divides opinion

A recent incident involving a driver of a utility vehicle has sparked an intense and divisive reaction among Aussies on social media.

Some view the driver's actions as entitled and risky, suggesting their impatience could have led to a dangerous accident. Meanwhile, others support the driver's behaviour.



The incident occurred on Ridge Hill Road in Helena Valley, Perth, as captured by dashcam footage. In the video, we see a driver navigating the road carefully, particularly when encountering cyclists while travelling in a northward direction.

The vehicle recording the footage overtook one cyclist with caution, and then it patiently followed behind a second cyclist, waiting for the right moment to pass.

After waiting for about a minute, a truck approached from the opposite direction. Shortly after, a white utility vehicle crossed double unbroken lines, overtaking both the first driver and the second cyclist.


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The reaction to the utility driver's manoeuvre was completely mixed, with a wave of arguments on both sides. Credit: Facebook.



Needless to say, the video garnered a lot of attention on the internet, leading to heated debates.

Some supported the utility driver, arguing that the cyclist had ample time to overtake the vehicle. 'I usually ride in the bike lane, and when there are cars, I give them plenty of space to pass, or sometimes I go on the footpath if there is one and no one on it,' said one user.

A few argued that roads not designed for cyclists shouldn't allow bikes. Others also believed the dashcam driver had multiple opportunities to pass safely.



On the other hand, some people defended the dashcam driver, even going as far as calling the utility driver 'entitled'.

They praised the patience of drivers who showed consideration for cyclists, noting that the cyclists were keeping a safe distance. 'Nice to see drivers having patience with bikes,' they said.

Concerns were also raised about the utility driver's actions, particularly the risky maneuver over a double white line.

'That was so dangerous, putting everyone's life in danger…' commented one user.



Edward Hore, President of the Australian Cycling Alliance, strongly criticised the ute driver, asserting that they were 'absolutely in the wrong'.

Hore clarified the situation: 'By passing the cyclist, he did not break the law. But he did break the law by passing the truck because of the double white lines.'

He went on to commend the truck driver, who captured the incident on their dashcam, saying: 'He is a legend, and he needs to be celebrated. He was very aware of what was happening and where he was on the road.'

Hore further argued that the utility vehicle driver should reconsider their qualifications to hold a driver's license, as their actions were illegal and hazardous.



In Western Australia, the road rules dictate that drivers should not cross double-unbroken lines for overtaking.

However, there are exceptions: you can cross these lines to turn right at an intersection or when entering or exiting a property or a different road. Violating this rule can lead to a $150 fine and three demerit points on your license.

In contrast, overtaking is allowed in other states like New South Wales when passing a bicycle. You can also cross double lines to avoid an obstruction in the road, as long as that obstruction is not a slower or stopped car.

However, in Victoria, the rules are more stringent. Passing a cyclist on a road with double unbroken lines is prohibited.



According to VicRoads, 'You are not allowed cross over these lines for any reason unless you have to avoid an obstruction and it is safe to do so. You can't overtake, turn, or enter or leave the road across double lines.'

Key Takeaways

  • A ute driver's manoeuvre to overtake a cyclist along a busy Perth road has divided opinions online.
  • Dashcam footage shows the driver crossing double unbroken lines to overtake the cyclist and another vehicle, an act labelled by some as 'entitled' and 'dangerous'.
  • The president of the Australian Cycling Alliance, Edward Hore, condemned the ute driver's actions, stating they broke the law and put lives at risk.
  • Under WA's road rules, drivers are prohibited from crossing double unbroken lines to overtake, with the offence punishable by a $150 fine and three demerit points.

Members, what do you think of the incident? Who do you think was in the right? That said, we also urge everyone to stay safe on the road!
 
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The damn cyclist should have moved over closer to the curb and gave way to the ute (traffic). Never mind this BS of having a meter between them and traffic! Meanwhile they wobble their @$$ all over the road and use the excuse they have a licence to so have the right to hog the road. So What? If you're on a 2 wheel pedal power bike (compared to a motor bike) then give way to the traffic around you and respect that the rest of the users on the road are bigger, heavier and more protected than your @$$ is on that flimsy frame with no surrounding coverage around you unlike the rest of the traffic excepting motorbikes.
Long as the ute driver passed the bike rider and got into the right lane as soon as possible i'm on the side of the ute driver.

If i could ride a bike with loud music (full volume) through headphones and still keep an eye on the traffic behind me and give way to the traffic no one meter distance needed and stuck as close as i could the the side of the road or just inside the parking lane - as i was taught - which should still be taught that way - then why can't anyone else?
Stuff the one meter rule - if you can't ride without it then get of the road and on the footpath til you get the courage to put your big girl/guy pants on and share the road without restricting those bigger than you on it.
Looks to me that the cyclist is where he should be on this road. There is a kerb on his left & if he moved closer to that kerb he would have no room to move if a vehicle comes too close. When a car, or more often, a truck passes a cyclist @ speed as you will be aware a side thrust of air is created. You would have felt this if walking on a footpath & a car or truck passes. In this situation this can force the cyclist sideways & if too close to the kerb he may hit the kerb & flip the bike, falling onto the road, but more likely to the left.

I used to ride a scooter & once had a car pass me as l entered a one lane round-a-bout. Since that day l entered & exited every round-a-bout in the middle of the lane & while on the road maintained a distance of at least 1/2 a metre from the kerb. As my 50cc scooter can do 60 kph, the legal speed on most suburban roads in Perth, vehicles wishing to pass can do so without too many problems. If l become aware of a rock or whatever on the road in front of me l have some margin to try & miss it.

Please try & put yourself on that bicycle as the rider in that situation & ask yourself, 'What is the distance l want to be from that kerb to feel safe on this or that road?' l am sure you will see this in a different light.
 
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The double white lines are a mandatory indication, any vehicle must not cross over them regardless of the situation.
They are there for a good reason, many people have become self-entitled and disregard many mandatory road rules.
Examples not stopping at stop signs, speeding, tailgating, using mobile phones, speeding through 40Km worksites & school zones, keep left unless overtaking, plus many more.
It's no wonder that the road death Toll in Victoria is so high.
Self entitled/selfish people who do not care for anyone else but themselves.
 
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Sounds a bit like you might be trying to stir the pot between cars and cyclists. Both have a right to be on a road unless signage indicates otherwise.
They have the right given to them by idiots in government, don't pay insurance get off the road, car drivers and trucks pay for the roads and these idiots hold us up, slow as fuck riding side by side.
 
Being a cyclist for around 20 years now, I will say many who drive vehicles on the road are “entitled”….
Most cyclists do HAVE insurance, and most of us have other vehicles so WE do pay registration.
In my riding group we have had two of our cyclists killed..
First cyclist was killed by a “drug fuelled” semi trailer driver…now 6 years ago, and it still seems like yesterday
Second cyclist was killed by a “tradie” using his mobile phone…just 2 months ago
Enough said!!
You'd think you'd learn to stay off the fukn road then, are you slow? If your friends were dropping like flies from sky dicing would you keep doing it?
 
Aren't you a charmer. Who made you God? Please look at the stupidity of the ute driver. An accident waiting to happen. Using commonsense and respect I drove from age 18 to 80 and had one smash when a woman crashed into me. I set my kids and grandkids a challenge,,,,no fines and no accidents for 25 years. None could do it. I gave up my car when I thought the time was right and gifted it to a young man who was learning to drive. I must admit I should have earned a few speeding fines when driving to cat shows in Brisbane at around 2.30am but I didn't get one. Lucky me.
I'm not saying the ute is right, I'm saying it should have never been an issue, the fukn bike shouldn't be there.
 
I'm not saying the ute is right, I'm saying it should have never been an issue, the fukn bike shouldn't be there.

Do not even get me started on your opinion, you have yours and I have mine which are vastly different…get over yourself!!
 
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I dont bike ride but you are sounding very cynical towards cyclists???
I fukn hate them, when they do the wrong thing, like go on footpaths when it suits them.to run lights, ride side by side uphill on 2 lane roads in 80 plus zones, weave in and out of traffic when it's moving, it's scary for people driving cars, we have enough to worry about, also insurance on cars went up 30% because of them .
 
A recent incident involving a driver of a utility vehicle has sparked an intense and divisive reaction among Aussies on social media.

Some view the driver's actions as entitled and risky, suggesting their impatience could have led to a dangerous accident. Meanwhile, others support the driver's behaviour.



The incident occurred on Ridge Hill Road in Helena Valley, Perth, as captured by dashcam footage. In the video, we see a driver navigating the road carefully, particularly when encountering cyclists while travelling in a northward direction.

The vehicle recording the footage overtook one cyclist with caution, and then it patiently followed behind a second cyclist, waiting for the right moment to pass.

After waiting for about a minute, a truck approached from the opposite direction. Shortly after, a white utility vehicle crossed double unbroken lines, overtaking both the first driver and the second cyclist.


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The reaction to the utility driver's manoeuvre was completely mixed, with a wave of arguments on both sides. Credit: Facebook.



Needless to say, the video garnered a lot of attention on the internet, leading to heated debates.

Some supported the utility driver, arguing that the cyclist had ample time to overtake the vehicle. 'I usually ride in the bike lane, and when there are cars, I give them plenty of space to pass, or sometimes I go on the footpath if there is one and no one on it,' said one user.

A few argued that roads not designed for cyclists shouldn't allow bikes. Others also believed the dashcam driver had multiple opportunities to pass safely.



On the other hand, some people defended the dashcam driver, even going as far as calling the utility driver 'entitled'.

They praised the patience of drivers who showed consideration for cyclists, noting that the cyclists were keeping a safe distance. 'Nice to see drivers having patience with bikes,' they said.

Concerns were also raised about the utility driver's actions, particularly the risky maneuver over a double white line.

'That was so dangerous, putting everyone's life in danger…' commented one user.



Edward Hore, President of the Australian Cycling Alliance, strongly criticised the ute driver, asserting that they were 'absolutely in the wrong'.

Hore clarified the situation: 'By passing the cyclist, he did not break the law. But he did break the law by passing the truck because of the double white lines.'

He went on to commend the truck driver, who captured the incident on their dashcam, saying: 'He is a legend, and he needs to be celebrated. He was very aware of what was happening and where he was on the road.'

Hore further argued that the utility vehicle driver should reconsider their qualifications to hold a driver's license, as their actions were illegal and hazardous.



In Western Australia, the road rules dictate that drivers should not cross double-unbroken lines for overtaking.

However, there are exceptions: you can cross these lines to turn right at an intersection or when entering or exiting a property or a different road. Violating this rule can lead to a $150 fine and three demerit points on your license.

In contrast, overtaking is allowed in other states like New South Wales when passing a bicycle. You can also cross double lines to avoid an obstruction in the road, as long as that obstruction is not a slower or stopped car.

However, in Victoria, the rules are more stringent. Passing a cyclist on a road with double unbroken lines is prohibited.



According to VicRoads, 'You are not allowed cross over these lines for any reason unless you have to avoid an obstruction and it is safe to do so. You can't overtake, turn, or enter or leave the road across double lines.'

Key Takeaways

  • A ute driver's manoeuvre to overtake a cyclist along a busy Perth road has divided opinions online.
  • Dashcam footage shows the driver crossing double unbroken lines to overtake the cyclist and another vehicle, an act labelled by some as 'entitled' and 'dangerous'.
  • The president of the Australian Cycling Alliance, Edward Hore, condemned the ute driver's actions, stating they broke the law and put lives at risk.
  • Under WA's road rules, drivers are prohibited from crossing double unbroken lines to overtake, with the offence punishable by a $150 fine and three demerit points.

Members, what do you think of the incident? Who do you think was in the right? That said, we also urge everyone to stay safe on the road!
 
I fukn hate them, when they do the wrong thing, like go on footpaths when it suits them.to run lights, ride side by side uphill on 2 lane roads in 80 plus zones, weave in and out of traffic when it's moving, it's scary for people driving cars, we have enough to worry about, also insurance on cars went up 30% because of them .
Ok Robbo, I acknowledge your comment but I am sure the same could be said without all the profanity and hatred
 
After reading the recent comments that resemble a tennis match with grenades, I will say this.

In the main, cyclists abide by the law BUT....

When you have Lycra clad tossers doing 5 kmh up a hill, three abreast talking to each other like they are sitting on a park bench on a Sunday afternoon, that's what gets up my nose.

And don't get me started on this jerks on electric scooters and bikes, riding at 20 kmh plus, weaving in and out of pedestrians on a damn footpath. And then have the audacity to take up the space of two or three people on a crowded public transport bus or train!
 
I actually rang two insurance companies this morning to ask why car insurance premiums were on the rise…
“I was told…it depends on how often you drive your vehicle, inflation or an increase in vehicle crime”
When I asked about accidents involving cyclists, as a reason for the increase, both answered NO!!!
 
I actually rang two insurance companies this morning to ask why car insurance premiums were on the rise…
“I was told…it depends on how often you drive your vehicle, inflation or an increase in vehicle crime”
When I asked about accidents involving cyclists, as a reason for the increase, both answered NO!!!
They certainly have their excuses. One of them being that due to the number of accidents and claims within the insurance company, rates have to rise and compensate for their payouts, putting all those motorists insured with them on notice for a price increase.
Sorry, but I find that to be a bit of malaki.
I am going to bet nearly anything that if you don't drive your car for 12 months you will still cop a price increase.
 
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In SA it is permitted to cross double lines to overtake a cyclist, provided it is safe to do do. The ute driver is completely in the wrong, exhibiting the impatience which causes so many collisions.
Double lines are usually put on the road in places where it is DANGEROUS, so I can't really see any place to cross double white lines when SAFE to do so.
 
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They have the right given to them by idiots in government, don't pay insurance get off the road, car drivers and trucks pay for the roads and these idiots hold us up, slow as fuck riding side by side.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE FACT THAT MANY OF THOSE RIDERS ARE ALSO CAR DRIVERS & THEREFORE PAY INSURANCE ETC. JUST AS YOU DO & THIS IS A HOBBY FOR THEM & NOT AN EVERYDAY FORM OF TRANSPORT???
 
A recent incident involving a driver of a utility vehicle has sparked an intense and divisive reaction among Aussies on social media.

Some view the driver's actions as entitled and risky, suggesting their impatience could have led to a dangerous accident. Meanwhile, others support the driver's behaviour.



The incident occurred on Ridge Hill Road in Helena Valley, Perth, as captured by dashcam footage. In the video, we see a driver navigating the road carefully, particularly when encountering cyclists while travelling in a northward direction.

The vehicle recording the footage overtook one cyclist with caution, and then it patiently followed behind a second cyclist, waiting for the right moment to pass.

After waiting for about a minute, a truck approached from the opposite direction. Shortly after, a white utility vehicle crossed double unbroken lines, overtaking both the first driver and the second cyclist.


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The reaction to the utility driver's manoeuvre was completely mixed, with a wave of arguments on both sides. Credit: Facebook.



Needless to say, the video garnered a lot of attention on the internet, leading to heated debates.

Some supported the utility driver, arguing that the cyclist had ample time to overtake the vehicle. 'I usually ride in the bike lane, and when there are cars, I give them plenty of space to pass, or sometimes I go on the footpath if there is one and no one on it,' said one user.

A few argued that roads not designed for cyclists shouldn't allow bikes. Others also believed the dashcam driver had multiple opportunities to pass safely.



On the other hand, some people defended the dashcam driver, even going as far as calling the utility driver 'entitled'.

They praised the patience of drivers who showed consideration for cyclists, noting that the cyclists were keeping a safe distance. 'Nice to see drivers having patience with bikes,' they said.

Concerns were also raised about the utility driver's actions, particularly the risky maneuver over a double white line.

'That was so dangerous, putting everyone's life in danger…' commented one user.



Edward Hore, President of the Australian Cycling Alliance, strongly criticised the ute driver, asserting that they were 'absolutely in the wrong'.

Hore clarified the situation: 'By passing the cyclist, he did not break the law. But he did break the law by passing the truck because of the double white lines.'

He went on to commend the truck driver, who captured the incident on their dashcam, saying: 'He is a legend, and he needs to be celebrated. He was very aware of what was happening and where he was on the road.'

Hore further argued that the utility vehicle driver should reconsider their qualifications to hold a driver's license, as their actions were illegal and hazardous.



In Western Australia, the road rules dictate that drivers should not cross double-unbroken lines for overtaking.

However, there are exceptions: you can cross these lines to turn right at an intersection or when entering or exiting a property or a different road. Violating this rule can lead to a $150 fine and three demerit points on your license.

In contrast, overtaking is allowed in other states like New South Wales when passing a bicycle. You can also cross double lines to avoid an obstruction in the road, as long as that obstruction is not a slower or stopped car.

However, in Victoria, the rules are more stringent. Passing a cyclist on a road with double unbroken lines is prohibited.



According to VicRoads, 'You are not allowed cross over these lines for any reason unless you have to avoid an obstruction and it is safe to do so. You can't overtake, turn, or enter or leave the road across double lines.'

Key Takeaways

  • A ute driver's manoeuvre to overtake a cyclist along a busy Perth road has divided opinions online.
  • Dashcam footage shows the driver crossing double unbroken lines to overtake the cyclist and another vehicle, an act labelled by some as 'entitled' and 'dangerous'.
  • The president of the Australian Cycling Alliance, Edward Hore, condemned the ute driver's actions, stating they broke the law and put lives at risk.
  • Under WA's road rules, drivers are prohibited from crossing double unbroken lines to overtake, with the offence punishable by a $150 fine and three demerit points.

Members, what do you think of the incident? Who do you think was in the right? That said, we also urge everyone to stay safe on the road!
Cyclist are idiots
 

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