American faces backlash for attacking Australians on healthcare: ‘Nothing is free’

In the age of social media, opinions are as plentiful as kangaroos in the Outback and just as likely to cause a stir when they hop into the wrong territory.

American E Jones found himself in a heated debate after challenging the notion that Australia's healthcare system is entirely free.

His comments sparked a wildfire of responses from Aussies who were quick to defend their healthcare model, but it also raises an important question: Is Australian healthcare truly free, or is there more to the story?



E Jones argued that Australians are misled into believing their healthcare is free when, in fact, it is funded by taxpayers.

'Only in Australia could I make a video complaining about the price of beer and be attacked by Australians being like "at least we've got free healthcare",' he said in a video online.

'Nothing is f*****g free.'


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American E Jones slammed the ‘free’ Australian healthcare system. Credit: @e_jones34us / TikTok


He pointed out that the system has flaws, citing healthcare workers' strikes and dissatisfaction as evidence of mismanagement.

His remarks, while provocative, touch upon a fundamental aspect of any publicly funded service: it's not free in the sense that it magically appears without cost; it's paid for by the collective contributions of the country's citizens through taxes.

'If all these taxes that you're paying is supposed to be going to that "free" healthcare, somebody has mismanaged [it] drastically,' he said.

'I've seen several cars where nurses want to go on strike, and I've seen the f*****g ambulance riding around with their f*****g windows drawn on about how they're treated.'



E Jones’ video received comments from Aussies, claiming he didn’t understand Australia’s healthcare system.

‘You [the United States] charge $8,000 per 12 hours in emergency. We pay $0. You lose,' one person commented.

'Our minimum wage is triple yours. We have compulsory superannuation, we get paid sick and 4 weeks annual leave. I think we good,' another wrote.

'Our healthcare system is way better than the US. Taxes are an important way to look after society, I don't mind paying tax to have healthcare for our country,' a third added.

Another Aussie shared that basic health services in Australia are more affordable than in the US.

'When I was in America, it cost me AUD $350 to see a doctor and get an asthma inhaler because they aren’t over the counter compared with [Australia] where I pay $9 at a chemist,' the commenter wrote.

'You're also not a citizen, so yeah, you would pay more,' E Jones replied.



Now, let's dive into the Australian healthcare system.

Medicare was introduced by Bob Hawke's government in 1984, which covers some or all of the costs of necessary health care, including GP visits that bulk bill, specialist consultations, and a range of prescription medicines through the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS).

The system ensures that essential medical services are accessible and affordable for Australian and New Zealand citizens and permanent residents.

The funding for Medicare comes from the Medicare Levy, which is currently set at two per cent of taxable income, with reductions and exemptions available under certain conditions.



Comparatively, the United States operates a mixed healthcare system and does not provide universal coverage.

For instance, treatments for a broken leg can cost up to USD $7,500, and a three-day hospital stay can potentially cost around USD $30,000.

On the other hand, Australians benefit from a system in which even privately insured patients can claim up to 75 per cent of the cost of their treatment and surgery through the Medicare Benefits Schedule.

You can watch E Jones’ video below:


Credit: @e_jones34us / TikTok

Speaking of healthcare, Australians are yet to receive more healthcare benefits in the 2024-25 federal budget.

In a previous story, the federal budget announced a freeze on the cost of prescription medications listed on PBS. You can read more about the announcement here.
Key Takeaways
  • An American has been criticised by Australians for questioning the 'free' nature of Australia's healthcare system.
  • He pointed out that the healthcare costs are covered by taxpayers and highlighted issues with healthcare worker pay and conditions.
  • Australians responded by praising their Medicare system, which provides universal healthcare funded through taxes, and comparing it favourably with the US system.
  • The Medicare system, introduced in 1984, offers access to GPs, specialists, and prescription medicines, with costs subsidised by the nationally imposed Medicare Levy.
Do you consider the Medicare system a fair trade-off for the taxes you pay? Have you had experiences with healthcare that reinforce the value of our system or perhaps suggest areas for improvement? Share your thoughts with us in the comments below!
 
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The only thing wrong with our health is the bloody health coming here and freeloading on our sytem. Unfortunately very few countries have a recipricol medical arrangement system in place. Although even with those countries I'd still take a fully cmprehensive travel insurance.
 
I only know the cost for local GPs in my area and that is the out of pocket cost. I was not suggesting the haemorrhoids was about you, just saying the problems are largely caused by the like and including those companies that insist on a sick certificate for 1 day off work. Yes it is best that healthcare is affordable for all - just like anything that is free however- it most certainly is abused and the cause of backlogs for all related services.
Australia does have a major problem; too few GPs coming out of medical school, and too few students allowed to have a place in a medical school.If only the top 1% of school leavers are permitted to enter medical school, then that is where our problems start. Doctoring is very much a closed-shop system. The other problem is that State governments don't seem to give a tinker's cuss about providing decent public health-care.
 
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People go to emergency for the most trivial things these days because it's really hard to find a GP who bulk bills anymore. I for one can't afford to see any of the local doctors in my area for this reason, so I travel 4hrs (2 trains & a bus) to see a GP that does bulk bill.
On the other hand we use to have a Hospital in our district but the Government in its infinite wisdom closed this down and replaced it with a Clinic that doesn't have X-ray facilities so it is bloody pointless going there in the first place. They just tell you to go to a hospital or ring an ambulance for you. This hospital also had the capability of treating heart patients but the clinic doesn't.
I broke my wrist last yr and yes I spent 7hrs in Emergency waiting to have it put in plaster but I had a good book with me so the time passed quickly. I have no complaints about the hospital system in Australia, it has always treated me right when I've needed help.
 
In South Australia Urgent Care Clinics' are popping up which are bulk billed, yes you have to wait sometimes for quite a while but they too prioritise the needs of those who walk in and they are taking some of the pressure off the emergency departments. Sadly there are still people who get a scratch and rush to emergency which is silly. I worked since I was 18 till I was 58 when due to health and family reasons I retired, I have been paying my taxes which have gone into the coffers of the government to put towards Medical and other areas. Now others are doing the same paying their taxes for when it is their turn to need support. Although the waiting times can be maddening and frustrating at least when we have to pay to see a specialist for instance you get most of that money back, the initial outlay for many maybe difficult but somehow we do managed to get that amount needed and get the health care we require. We are very lucky to not have to do what my friend in America has to do, which is constantly look for a better health insurance company that will give her and her husband both older pensioners what they need and what they can actually afford.
 
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I went to my late husbands GP in Applecross last year to get the results of his blood test he had done the day before he passed. For a 10 minute visit it cost me $89.00. Was it worth the money NO.
 
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I went to my late husbands GP in Applecross last year to get the results of his blood test he had done the day before he passed. For a 10 minute visit it cost me $89.00. Was it worth the money NO.
Wow! @DLHM and myself live in Applecross!

Meanwhile, I went to an ophthalmologist at Wexford Medical Centre, Murdoch, Perth for two visits totalling a massive 25 minutes.

Cost? Just a lazy $530 as a concession card holder!
 
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I had full private hospital and ancillary cover for many years.
The only stay in hospital that I had needed a drip applied for 1 day and 1 night, and nothing else except the nurses waking me up every 2 hours. I was went to a private hospital on the assumption that my private cover would come to use. Not so. 2 days later we were presented with an invoice for $1100 dollars that was the gap after private cover.
One week later, I pulled out of health benefits completely.
We started a separate savings account to cover medical and ended up much better off.
Now we are pensioners, I feel very fortunate to be in the system, and yes, tax payers do pay as would be the case anywhere in the world that works under such a system. However, I was a tax payer for over 35 years ... now it's someone else carrying the torch.
The waiting times in Emergency do need to be addressed. The Ambulance back-log in the bays is to be immediately fixed. The triage needs to be smartened up and people with broken nails sent home. There are issues all around, but I wouldn't live anywhere else.
2 knee replacements for me, and life saving stays for hubby are enough to warrant our thanks.
Those who fall through the cracks are yet another matter that needs addressing immediately.
 
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I had full private hospital and ancillary cover for many years.
The only stay in hospital that I had needed a drip applied for 1 day and 1 night, and nothing else except the nurses waking me up every 2 hours. I was went to a private hospital on the assumption that my private cover would come to use. Not so. 2 days later we were presented with an invoice for $1100 dollars that was the gap after private cover.
One week later, I pulled out of health benefits completely.
We started a separate savings account to cover medical and ended up much better off.
Now we are pensioners, I feel very fortunate to be in the system, and yes, tax payers do pay as would be the case anywhere in the world that works under such a system. However, I was a tax payer for over 35 years ... now it's someone else carrying the torch.
The waiting times in Emergency do need to be addressed. The Ambulance back-log in the bays is to be immediately fixed. The triage needs to be smartened up and people with broken nails sent home. There are issues all around, but I wouldn't live anywhere else.
2 knee replacements for me, and life saving stays for hubby are enough to warrant our thanks.
Those who fall through the cracks are yet another matter that needs addressing immediately.
Was that the agreed co-payment as per your policy cover or additional fees?
 
In South Australia Urgent Care Clinics' are popping up which are bulk billed, yes you have to wait sometimes for quite a while but they too prioritise the needs of those who walk in and they are taking some of the pressure off the emergency departments. Sadly there are still people who get a scratch and rush to emergency which is silly. I worked since I was 18 till I was 58 when due to health and family reasons I retired, I have been paying my taxes which have gone into the coffers of the government to put towards Medical and other areas. Now others are doing the same paying their taxes for when it is their turn to need support. Although the waiting times can be maddening and frustrating at least when we have to pay to see a specialist for instance you get most of that money back, the initial outlay for many maybe difficult but somehow we do managed to get that amount needed and get the health care we require. We are very lucky to not have to do what my friend in America has to do, which is constantly look for a better health insurance company that will give her and her husband both older pensioners what they need and what they can actually afford.
100% what I have found.
 
Fortunately we both have Doctor's within 35 minutes drive time that don't charge even a Zac for a chat. Both are high quality foreign born Doctors who give very sound advice.
 
Aussies like me and many others paid a levy for this.while we were working
My sister who had an accident while visiting her son in Utah, spent 3 weeks in their hospital . Cost $250,000+
her son rang the insurance agency in AU and they agreed to pay her fare back so that she could have the help she needed. I hear that the poor in the USA are driven around in an ambulance to find a hospital to take them. Sorry if this is not correct . I hope that we are never in the position of refusing care to all individuals that need it. I do not want the American way of health care in our great country,
even tho our pollies would like it.
June
 
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Aussies like me and many others paid a levy for this.while we were working
My sister who had an accident while visiting her son in Utah, spent 3 weeks in their hospital . Cost $250,000+
her son rang the insurance agency in AU and they agreed to pay her fare back so that she could have the help she needed. I hear that the poor in the USA are driven around in an ambulance to find a hospital to take them. Sorry if this is not correct . I hope that we are never in the position of refusing care to all individuals that need it. I do not want the American way of health care in our great country,
even tho our pollies would like it.
June
Americans receive free emergency medical treatment in any hospital, however if they need to stay in the hospital ward then they pay. We never went without travel insurance when we visited the USA. My American friends all have private health cover. Their employees cover it. When they retire, they pay for health cover themselves. There is medical aid for non private health cover for the poor thankfully. I also agree we don't want the American way.
 
"....when we have to pay to see a specialist for instance you get most of that money back,...."

A little under half back via Medicare, if lucky. It can depend very much on the individual specialist.
 
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I read in about 1973, in an NZ newspaper, that some homeless hobo (English : tramp) had got extremely badly burned over much of his body. He was conveyed to 33 hospitals and was rejected because he was poor (broke) before being accepted by the 34th, where he died on admission. Health-care USA style. Odd how in American movies you see people lying in hospital beds, with or without intravenous drips, oxygen masks, etc with often a nice view outside the window and every medical staff-member smiling and cheerful. Another classic Hollywood myth about medicine's Hypocritic Oath
 
Was that the agreed co-payment as per your policy cover or additional fees?
There was no agreed co-payment. I paid full cover for many years...total waste of money.
The amount I had to pay was simply described as the GAP. If you think you are totally covered, most likely you will be wrong.
 
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Fortunately we both have Doctor's within 35 minutes drive time that don't charge even a Zac for a chat. Both are high quality foreign born Doctors who give very sound advice.
I know four 'foreign' doctors who are top quality. Thank God for immigrants to Australia, or their immigrant parents, who value education.
 
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