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Fine line emerges between security and overreach as customers question banking tactics

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Fine line emerges between security and overreach as customers question banking tactics

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Customers were left unsettled as routine bank withdrawals were carried out in ways that made many feel accused of wrongdoing. Credit: Depositphotos

There's nothing quite like being interrogated about your own money to make you feel like you've done something wrong. Yet across Australia, bank customers are increasingly finding themselves on the receiving end of what feels like a police interview when they simply want to withdraw a few hundred dollars from their own accounts.



A recent Commonwealth Bank customer's experience has struck a nerve with thousands of Australians. When they attempted to withdraw just $300 ahead of a planned system outage, they were subjected to what they described as 'invasive' questioning:



'What will you be doing with the money?', 'Why $300?', 'Do you plan on doing anything illegal?', 'Has someone asked you to get the cash out and give it to them in a scam?', 'Are you or anyone's safety at risk?'



The customer's frustration was clear: 'Like dude, I'm just getting cash out because of the outage that's it.'



The great banking balancing act



The customer's complaint sparked heated debate on social media, with many sharing similar experiences. One person was questioned extensively when depositing $600 into their own account, while another was grilled for 'a good five minutes' about where they'd obtained the money and whether it was the 'proceeds of illegal activities.'









But here's what many customers don't understand: for amounts under $10,000, banks have no legal requirement to ask these questions. The mandatory reporting threshold to AUSTRAC (Australian Transaction Reports and Analysis Centre) only kicks in for cash transactions of $10,000 or more.



So why are tellers asking about your $300 withdrawal?










'By asking you some simple questions, we can help keep your money safe'

Larna Manson, NAB Retail Customer Executive



The sobering reality behind the questions



The numbers tell a stark story. According to the ACCC, Australians lost $2.74 billion to scams in 2023. While overall losses decreased by 13 per cent, total scams reported by Australians increased 18.5 per cent highlighting the increasing adaptability and sophistication of techniques used by scammers.



What's particularly concerning for readers of this publication is that scammers are increasingly targeting older Australians, often using sophisticated techniques that can fool even the most cautious person.



The banking industry has responded with unprecedented coordination. At the heart of the Scam-Safe Accord is a $100 million investment by the industry in a new confirmation of payee system to be rolled out across all Australian retail banks.



Confirmation of payee will help reduce scams by ensuring people can confirm they are transferring money to the person they intend to.









When questions save life savings



Behind the frustrating interrogations are genuine success stories. A man in his 80s was told by a scammer to withdraw $10,000 from his account and explain to the bank it was for home renovations.



It was only when the bank teller pushed him to explain what renovations were being done did the man confess he felt pressured to take out the money and hand it to the anonymous caller.



A woman was also saved from transferring $6 million to scammers after a NAB banker asked her a few questions about where the money was going.




Understanding bank questioning policies



  • Amounts under $10,000: No legal requirement for banks to ask questions

  • Questions are voluntary scam prevention measures, not legal obligations

  • Banks use these checks following industry-wide scam prevention agreements

  • You have rights if you feel the questioning is excessive or inappropriate




Your rights when withdrawing your own money



While banks argue these questions protect customers, you're not legally required to answer detailed queries about amounts under $10,000. Cash advocate Jason Bryce argues:



'Banks need to hand over our money and say, 'Thank you have a nice day'. Banks are literally pushing us, against our will, into a cashless future.



They are causing stress to people who use cash everyday—like small businesses and the elderly.'









If you feel a bank's questioning is excessive, you have options:



What you can do





  • Provide a simple, honest answer—most genuine transactions won't raise further questions
  • Ask to speak with a manager if you feel harassed
  • Request information about the bank's specific policy
  • Make a complaint if the treatment seems unreasonable



When to seek help









If you're unsatisfied with a bank's treatment, you can escalate the matter to the Australian Financial Complaints Authority (AFCA), which provides a free and independent service to resolve disputes between consumers and financial institutions.




Know your complaint pathways


Start with the bank's internal complaints process


Escalate to AFCA if unsatisfied (free service)


Contact ASIC for serious misconduct concerns


Document all interactions for potential complaints




The bigger picture for cash users



The questioning controversy reflects a broader tension in Australian banking. The number of cash access points has been decreasing in Australia for some time.



Data from the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority (APRA) show that the number of ADI branches declined by nearly 50 per cent (3,239 branches) between 2011 and 2024. The broad pace of branch closures has continued, with 230 branches closing over the year to June 2024.



This shift particularly impacts older Australians and those in regional areas where digital payment systems may be unreliable.



As one regional business owner noted: 'I live in a country town that's population is mostly over 60 years of age.



The wifi or internet is not that reliable, quite often we have black outs which effect paying for medication, groceries and fuel.'









Finding the balance



The Commonwealth Bank's response to the original complaint acknowledges the tension: while they aim to conduct checks 'discreetly and respectfully,' they maintain that 'with scam losses still significant in Australia, these short checks can be critical.'



Did you know?


Did you know?
The Reserve Bank of Australia is committed to ensuring cash remains a viable payment method for those who need it, analysing various indicators of cash access across the country to support government objectives.



The reality is that we're navigating uncharted territory. Never before have scams been so sophisticated or losses so significant, yet never have customers felt more scrutinised when accessing their own money.



Tips for smoother banking interactions



Here's how to handle withdrawal questioning more effectively:











  • Be prepared for questions on larger amounts or unusual patterns
  • Have a simple, honest explanation ready
  • Remember that tellers are following policy, not targeting you personally
  • Ask for a manager if questioning becomes excessive
  • Consider splitting large withdrawals across different days if urgent
  • Use online banking or ATMs for routine small withdrawals to avoid branch questioning



The goal isn't to eliminate protective measures that genuinely save people from devastating losses, but to ensure they're applied proportionately and respectfully.



After all, there's a significant difference between asking 'Is everything okay with this withdrawal?' and conducting what feels like a criminal interrogation.



While the banking industry grapples with balancing customer protection against customer dignity, understanding your rights and the reasoning behind these policies can help you navigate these interactions more confidently.



Have you experienced excessive questioning when withdrawing your own money? Share your experiences and let us know whether you think banks are striking the right balance between protection and privacy.




  • Original Article


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...tml?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=1490





  • CommBank leads with new anti-scam security features

    Cited text: Scam warnings, tailored to the type of payment the customer is looking to make, will appear in the app right before a customer sends their money.


    Excerpt: 'What will you be doing with the money?', 'Why $300?', 'Do you plan on doing anything illegal?', 'Has someone asked you to get the cash out and give it to them in a scam?', 'Are you or anyone's safety at risk?'



    https://www.commbank.com.au/articles/newsroom/2024/11/CommBank-new-anti-scam-security-features.html





  • NAB reveals why bank tellers refuse cash withdrawal after man fumes over $3,000 rejection

    Cited text: 'I can’t see how they are allowed to ask these questions, when the amount is under $10,000, they have no legal reason to ask but it happens everyday.'...


    Excerpt: for amounts under $10,000, banks have no legal requirement to ask these questions



    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/n...-man-fumes-over-3000-rejection-044651065.html





  • How much cash can i withdraw from a bank in Australia?

    Cited text: However, if you notify your bank, and then manage to withdraw a sum greater to or equal to $10,000, then the bank, by law has to report your withdrawa...


    Excerpt: for amounts under $10,000, banks have no legal requirement to ask these questions



    https://www.moneyaustralia.net/withdraw-cash/





  • Reporting transactions of $10,000 and over: Threshold transaction reports (TTRs) | AUSTRAC

    Cited text: Reporting entities must make threshold transaction reports (TTRs) to AUSTRAC for cash transactions of $10,000 or more.


    Excerpt: cash transactions of $10,000 or more



    https://www.austrac.gov.au/business...0-and-over-threshold-transaction-reports-ttrs





  • 24-182MR Anti-scam practices of banks outside the four major banks | ASIC

    Cited text: According to the ACCC, Australians lost $2.74 billion to scams in 2023. While overall losses decreased by 13 per cent, total scams reported by Australians inc...


    Excerpt: According to the ACCC, Australians lost $2.74 billion to scams in 2023.



    https://www.asic.gov.au/about-asic/...ctices-of-banks-outside-the-four-major-banks/





  • Banks unite to declare war on scammers—Australian Banking Association

    Cited text: · At the heart of the Scam-Safe Accord is a $100 million investment by the industry in a new confirmation of payee system to be rolled out across all ...


    Excerpt: At the heart of the Scam-Safe Accord is a $100 million investment by the industry in a new confirmation of payee system to be rolled out across all Australian retail banks.



    https://www.ausbanking.org.au/new-scam-safe-accord/





  • NAB reveals why bank tellers refuse cash withdrawal after man fumes over $3,000 rejection

    Cited text: A man in his 80s was told by a scammer to withdraw $10,000 from his account and explain to the bank it was for home renovations. It was only when the ...


    Excerpt: A man in his 80s was told by a scammer to withdraw $10,000 from his account and explain to the bank it was for home renovations.



    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/n...-man-fumes-over-3000-rejection-044651065.html





  • NAB reveals why bank tellers refuse cash withdrawal after man fumes over $3,000 rejection

    Cited text: ... A woman was also saved from transferring $6 million to scammers after a NAB banker asked her a few questions about where the money was going.


    Excerpt: A woman was also saved from transferring $6 million to scammers after a NAB banker asked her a few questions about where the money was going.



    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/n...-man-fumes-over-3000-rejection-044651065.html





  • NAB reveals why bank tellers refuse cash withdrawal after man fumes over $3,000 rejection

    Cited text: 'Banks need to hand over our money and say, 'Thank you have a nice day',' he told Yahoo Finance. 'Banks are literally pushing us, against our will, in...


    Excerpt: Cash advocate Jason Bryce argues: 'Banks need to hand over our money and say, 'Thank you have a nice day'.



    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/n...-man-fumes-over-3000-rejection-044651065.html





  • Can a Bank Refuse Cash Withdrawals If Funds Are Available?

    Cited text: Given these circumstances, it might be worthwhile to seek support from community representatives, legal advice, or even the Australian Financial Compl...


    Excerpt: If you're unsatisfied with a bank's treatment, you can escalate the matter to the Australian Financial Complaints Authority (AFCA), which provides a free and independent service to resolve disputes between consumers and financial…



    https://www.justanswer.com/australian-law/ody9o-bank-refuse-allow-withdraw-cash-despite.html





  • How to Withdraw Cash from NAB: Expert Answers to Your Questions

    Cited text: If unsatisfied with their response, you can escalate the matter to the Australian Financial Complaints Authority (AFCA), which provides a free and ind...


    Excerpt: If you're unsatisfied with a bank's treatment, you can escalate the matter to the Australian Financial Complaints Authority (AFCA), which provides a free and independent service to resolve disputes between consumers and financial…



    https://www.justanswer.com/australian-law/o6hf3-want-withdraw-cash-sum-account-nab.html





  • Access to Cash in Australia | Bulletin—January 2025 | RBA

    Cited text: The number of cash access points has been decreasing in Australia for some time. Data from the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority (APRA) show ...


    Excerpt: The number of cash access points has been decreasing in Australia for some time.



    https://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2025/jan/access-to-cash-in-australia.html





  • Can a Bank Refuse Cash Withdrawals If Funds Are Available?

    Cited text: ... this is just not about my business, I live in a country town that's population is mostly over 60 years of age. The wifi or internet is not that re...


    Excerpt: As one regional business owner noted: 'I live in a country town that's population is mostly over 60 years of age.



    https://www.justanswer.com/australian-law/ody9o-bank-refuse-allow-withdraw-cash-despite.html



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This is just the tip of the iceberg, as I have said my Bank demands to see your drivers license or you are refused any cash 💴, another ste p closer to NWO .
 
This is just the tip of the iceberg, as I have said my Bank demands to see your drivers license or you are refused any cash 💴, another ste p closer to NWO .
I think all banks do that. They can check details on that against details they have on their system. Otherwise if people get your card they can take it into the bank and use it to take money out of your account.
 
This is just the tip of the iceberg, as I have said my Bank demands to see your drivers license or you are refused any cash 💴, another ste p closer to NWO .
It's called identifying you. Would you prefer to just give YOUR money to anyone?
 
Surely these questions, although frustrating, have been introduced to protect people ie customers from scams and financial abuse. They have been introduced for some time following complaints that the same banks were not doing enough to protect funds of customers. Now everyone complains when these questions are applied when we request money from our accounts.
Accept that the questions are here to stay as long as cash is involved. Relax. Let the staff do their job to serve us in our requests and understand that because of these questions, our accounts are safe (or at least as safe as possible within current legislation).
 
It's called identifying you. Would you prefer to just give YOUR money to anyone?
I have been with my bank for almost 50 yrs ,staff know who I am this is not about identity it’s more sinister .
 
I have been with my bank for almost 50 yrs ,staff know who I am this is not about identity it’s more sinister .
By the way you don’t have to identify yourself when making a deposit ,work that one out .
 
I think all banks do that. They can check details on that against details they have on their system. Otherwise if people get your card they can take it into the bank and use it to take money out of your account.
Do banks accept digital driving licences yet? They didn’t earlier this year when I tried to make a “cardless” withdrawal
 
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CBA is my favourite bank,but even they have problems. I have the Commbank app on my phone but occasionally have to log into Netbank via the website to check an account not available on the app.
They have recently introduced two factor verification to protect their customers.
Great, however, you have to have your phone available to open the app to verify it is you requesting access.
Doesn't make sense to me as if you are using Netbank on a computer instead of the app, you likely don't have your app with you.
The old system of sending a message or email for confirmation seemed to be perfectly satisfactory.
Change for change sake simply doesn't make sense.
 
I don't blame the banks at all. Considering they are becoming more responsible for replacing your scammed money when a lot of the time it's the customers fault, they should be asking questions about where its going.
 
Some of the questions are bit stupid ie : Are you going to do anything illegal ?
Who the hell is going to say yes !!
And what are you going to do with the money ?
Stupid Q ? You could say anything the bank isn’t going to follow you to check you don’t spend it on something else are they !
The final 2 questions I feel are fair enough ie did someone ask you to take out this money ?
And is yours or anyone’s safety at risk.
I get annoyed at my bank when online it tells me how much I’ve spent !
I live on a pension and everything goes out every f/n $900 is rent other amounts go into different folder for other bills groceries etc etc I don’t need telling every f/n how much I’ve spent !
 
I wish I could afford to do it, withdraw $9,999 and tell them to mind their own bloody business? If pressed I'd ask to speak to the organ grinder?
 
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With all the B/S going at the banks and not having to identify yourself with deposits who is to say you are not laundering 💰 if kept under the $10,000 .
 
The banks are just trying to keep you safe but I have to admit the way the questions they ask about your withdrawals could be improved greatly.
 
This has gone far enough ..insulting customers and privacy questions about THEIR OWN MONEY CHANGE BANKS. WESTPAC IS MY CHOICE OF BANKS.!
 
Apart from an insult to your privacy, how on earth would the bank officer know if you are telling the truth or not? or is this an opportunity to discouraage customers from bank transactions so that they will be forced to use online banking?? But hey!! we all know that criminal groups are becoming more skilled at cybercrime, which means your account maybe hacked, or what about the many outages we are having, regardless, the customer is at the mercy of a whole range of issues that ultimately they have to sort out (And this is getting so boring).
 
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My bank identifies me every time I go to a different branch, but at my local branch they know me by name. I don't get intrusive questions asked of me, just friendly helpful service, but then again I don't bank with one of the "big4"
 
So as if a scammer is gonna tell the truth if asked all these questions about withdrawing $ from someone's account...bit of a pathetic excuse to act like big brother! No one wants to get scammed, but this is a waste of time surely!
 
Apart from an insult to your privacy, how on earth would the bank officer know if you are telling the truth or not? or is this an opportunity to discouraage customers from bank transactions so that they will be forced to use online banking?? But hey!! we all know that criminal groups are becoming more skilled at cybercrime, which means your account maybe hacked, or what about the many outages we are having, regardless, the customer is at the mercy of a whole range of issues that ultimately they have to sort out (And this is getting so boring).
Yes
 
My bank identifies me every time I go to a different branch, but at my local branch they know me by name. I don't get intrusive questions asked of me, just friendly helpful service, but then again I don't bank with one of the "big4"
Neither do I .
 

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