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Are passengers really getting ruder on trains and buses? Passengers say so

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Are passengers really getting ruder on trains and buses? Passengers say so

1759285641000.png Are passengers really getting ruder on trains and buses? Passengers say so
The shocking reality of today’s train etiquette…revealed. Image source: Reddit

Ever had that sinking feeling when someone plonks down beside you on a train and starts blasting videos at full volume?


Or struggled to exit at your stop while passengers pushed their way on board as if the doors were theirs alone?


For many Australians, these moments have become all too familiar—and increasingly frustrating.




A Melbourne-to-Sydney commuter recently ignited debate on social media after posting about what he saw as a surge in 'rude and ignorant' behaviour on public transport.


His social media post described a litany of annoyances: loud phone conversations, videos played without headphones, and people ignoring basic courtesy when boarding and alighting.



'I am convinced that it's become widely acceptable to be completely ignorant and rude on public transport.'

social media user, Daily Mail Australia


Stories poured in of passengers stepping over prams, urinating in train carriages, and blocking doors without a second thought, painting a troubling picture of public transport manners in decline.




What the actual rules are (yes, there are rules)


While these behaviours felt like violations of common sense, Australia does have public transport etiquette guidelines.


Seasoned commuters generally follow unwritten rules such as letting passengers alight before boarding, keeping bags on laps or under seats, avoiding loud conversations or music, moving to the centre of carriages, offering priority seating, and not leaning on poles others need.


These rules applied across Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, and Perth—but many passengers seemed unaware they existed.




Why this might be happening now


Experts suggested several factors behind this decline in courtesy.


Post-pandemic travel patterns left many commuters out of practice with crowded transport etiquette, while smartphones and personal entertainment devices created new forms of inconsiderate behaviour.


Social media amplified the issue, making Australians more aware of minor and major annoyances alike.



Most annoying public transport behaviours


  • Loud phone conversations and videos without headphones

  • Blocking doors and not letting people off first

  • Taking up extra seats with bags

  • Pushing and barging instead of waiting

  • Eating smelly food in confined spaces

  • Personal grooming activities




  • The real consequences


    The consequences of bad behaviour went beyond irritation.


    In South Australia alone, 93 assaults on bus drivers occurred in 2024, prompting authorities to introduce stricter measures to remove disruptive passengers from networks.


    Authorities encouraged reporting poor behaviour, acknowledging that civilised public spaces required community cooperation.


    The original social media thread also included examples from cinemas, medical waiting rooms, and hair salons—suggesting the decline in courtesy was not limited to transport.


    How to handle inconsiderate fellow passengers


    Passengers could take steps to manage inconsiderate behaviour.


    Being direct but polite, using humour to defuse tension, knowing when to involve authorities, leading by example, and choosing which battles to fight were effective strategies.




    The silver lining


    Despite the complaints, many Australians also shared positive experiences.


    Helpful grandmothers assisting with prams and passengers offering seats reminded commuters that courtesy still existed.


    With public transport usage yet to return to pre-pandemic levels, this could be an opportunity to reset expectations and reinforce basic manners in shared spaces.


    What This Means For You


    Australians have been reporting more frequent incidents of loud, disruptive, and rude behaviour on trains and buses, highlighting a growing frustration with everyday travel.


    While public transport etiquette rules do exist, many passengers either ignore them or are unaware of what they entail, making journeys more stressful for everyone.


    Changes in post-pandemic travel habits, the rise of smartphones, and increased social media use have all contributed to what many perceive as a decline in courtesy on public transport.


    Despite these challenges, passengers still have the power to influence their experience by responding politely, involving authorities when necessary, and leading by example.


    For anyone navigating crowded trains or buses, understanding these dynamics can help turn a frustrating commute into a more manageable and even pleasant journey.



    If you’ve ever been frustrated by confusing or unexpected rules on public transport, you’re not alone in wondering what’s allowed and what isn’t.


    There’s a lesser-known regulation that has caught several passengers off guard, highlighting how important it is to be aware of both written and unwritten etiquette.


    For a real-life example of how these rules can impact a journey, this next story offers a surprising and useful perspective.


    Read more: This obscure rule could get you kicked off your next bus ride—Aussie’s shocking story reveals why




    Are we witnessing a true decline in public behaviour, or are our patience and tolerance levels simply changing?

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    this has been happening for years now, a me me me society, manners not taught to children, nor is respect, I believe respect should be earnt and children taught that respect is of utmost importance, respect for Parents, for Police etc yes I know there are rotten apples in the groups BUT it doesn't make it right to teach your kids to be one of them. We are seeing this now in the child crime in Australia and the world........I don't have the answers but I bought my children up to respect the law (it's there for a reason) and if they crossed the line they had to pay the consequences, WHY? because I was frightened that my sons or my daughters could end up in jail or worse DEAD.....when they broke the law yes I was there for them and was pleased when they learnt their lesson even if it was the hard way.........this fear most mothers have for their children I am not a man so I cannot speak for them but I see my kids instilling the same morals in their children and although I still fear for my Grandies and Great Grandies I know they stand a chance of a life well lived wish I could say the same for all the kids out there.............I hate seeing children used or abused in anyway but they need to learn for Every ACTION there is a REACTION. even with their faces in their phones, the reaction is they too are BEING IGNORED.
     
    In my eyes manners and respect have gone out the windows. I'm not saying it's everyone. But l was bought up to say please and thankyou and show respect to others. Technical has taken over and people our in their own world.Bring back good old fashioned manners and respect.
     
    More and more parents, guardians and family members are developing serious addictions to alcohol, drugs, gambling and crime. How can a child learn about respect for another, when their own parent has turned a blind eye to the needs of their child because of an addiction. Any of the one of the four mentioned, addictions, can consume a person's mind, responsibility, love for family and self respect. A parent with an addiction may say to their child , l have enough on my plate with trouble, just get out of my sight. This is parental negligence and child neglect. This then deprives the child of developing healthy self esteem, confidence and respect for another. I honestly believe that a lot of these disrespectful passanges on public transport, come from broken families. If they knew better, they wouldn't behave the way they do. It's like, well, no one gave a dam about me as l was growing up, so why should I bother caring what anyone else says or thinks, about my disrespectful actions. Disrespect can also come from attention seeking, like when someone commits an unacceptable act, they immediately get a reaction. More public transport officers need to be employed, to monitor rude behaving comuters on public transport. 🙏🦋
     
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    I agree with all of the above. Discipline and respect for yourself and others is very rare these days and needs to be a focus both at primary school and in the home if our children are going to have a chance.
     
    I was catching a bus not so long as and this girl got on with her radio blaring. The bus driver told her to turn it off or get off. She obliged to turn it off to everyone's relief.
     
    We are living with so many 'entitlement' people these days - I am surprised that I don't react anyore. It isn't worth my while getting upset with these type of peope/actions.
     
    We are living with so many 'entitlement' people these days - I am surprised that I don't react anyore. It isn't worth my while getting upset with these type of peope/actions.
    Dear member Judio, good morning and thankyou for your post. I agree with you totally. These people, who believe that they are entitled to everything and anything, who think they are the chosen ones, are in fact, very insecure, have no social filter and are most of the time on their own, as not many members of the public would want to be associated with them. They lack confidence, and literally put themselves down through their rude behaviour. All doors to success and opportunities would be closed to them, leaving them with a very dry and lonely future. No one with decency, will tolerate the kind of rude behaviour that these lost souls, so shamelessly, display on public transport. Wishing you a beautiful week. 🙏🦋
     
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    The whole country is in decline, I came to this wonderful and unique land full of enthusiasm for the future after leaving virtually nothing behind but rubble both physical and metaphorical. But alas I have witnessed the slow decline in values which seems to be speeding up with the latest attack on our values."I'm afraid she'll be right is no longer the answer?"
     
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    In my eyes manners and respect have gone out the windows. I'm not saying it's everyone. But l was bought up to say please and thankyou and show respect to others. Technical has taken over and people our in their own world.Bring back good old fashioned manners and respect.
    yep and it's such a shame, I had to make my grandson put his phone away when he sat at dinner table grrrr..........told him people have faces......lol maybe old and wrinkled but eye contact is important.
     
    For those of us who had our eyes and ears open will know this is hardly new news.

    It was about 25 years ago I was on a bus and the knob behind me was f$ck this f*ck that f*cking just for the sake of saying f&ck and his lady friend next to him told him to stop him being rude and his response was lots more f*cking I will say what I F8cking want for we are in a F$cking modern society.
    Now he would have children by now running around like ferals thinking they are being modern.
     
    this has been happening for years now, a me me me society, manners not taught to children, nor is respect, I believe respect should be earnt and children taught that respect is of utmost importance, respect for Parents, for Police etc yes I know there are rotten apples in the groups BUT it doesn't make it right to teach your kids to be one of them. We are seeing this now in the child crime in Australia and the world........I don't have the answers but I bought my children up to respect the law (it's there for a reason) and if they crossed the line they had to pay the consequences, WHY? because I was frightened that my sons or my daughters could end up in jail or worse DEAD.....when they broke the law yes I was there for them and was pleased when they learnt their lesson even if it was the hard way.........this fear most mothers have for their children I am not a man so I cannot speak for them but I see my kids instilling the same morals in their children and although I still fear for my Grandies and Great Grandies I know they stand a chance of a life well lived wish I could say the same for all the kids out there.............I hate seeing children used or abused in anyway but they need to learn for Every ACTION there is a REACTION. even with their faces in their phones, the reaction is they too are BEING IGNORED.
    Absolutely agree with you 100% +++ Respect and values are just words that don't mean anything.
    Thank goodness people like yourself and others have taught and instilled these essential values in your own children and grandchildren. Starts at home, follows through to the education system, and has a positive outcome that contributes to communities at large, coupled with their fields of Trades or Business paths. There's still hope for the future generations, especially with these awesome values shared by their parents... and Leadership.
     
    For those of us who had our eyes and ears open will know this is hardly new news.

    It was about 25 years ago I was on a bus and the knob behind me was f$ck this f*ck that f*cking just for the sake of saying f&ck and his lady friend next to him told him to stop him being rude and his response was lots more f*cking I will say what I F8cking want for we are in a F$cking modern society.
    Now he would have children by now running around like ferals thinking they are being modern.
    Dear member RobbyNotTheRobot, good afternoon and thankyou for your post. I agree with you totally. And this is the kind of disrespectful attitude, that this man's children will pick up from their father. The children will think that if dad swears shamelessly on public transport, then that must be ok. There is nothing modern about swearing in public, but perhaps looks more so like rude attention seeking. Sadly, the children from these kind of parents, will grow up with social communication issues, and develop an ignorant understanding, of why their behaviour is classed as unacceptable, and rude. Wishing you a beautiful week. 🙏🦋
     
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    I am so glad I don’t have to catch buses 🚌 or trains 🚆 anymore and I pity anyone who has to whose elderly.🙁
     
    I am so glad I don’t have to catch buses 🚌 or trains 🚆 anymore and I pity anyone who has to whose elderly.🙁
    Years ago, when I lived in Sydney, I decided to catch the train into the city to visit Clients, not worry about parking meters, and drop into my office. The North Shore train was busy as it was peak hour, and I noticed a bunch of students from a prestigious North Shore School chattering away, engaged in deep conversations and laughter; I also noticed an older guy standing short of breath (the air-conditioning wasn't working properly on the train). Patiently, I waited in anticipation that one of the girls would stand and offer this gentleman their seat, as that is what we were taught in schools and by our parents as a show of respect for elders within our communities. Unfortunately, none of them did. I glared at them, left something on my seat, then offered the gentleman my seat. He was embarrassed and initially declined, but I insisted that he take up my offer he eventually did.
     
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    I sometimes think the baby boomers, often criticised for being the 'me' generation (by our predecessor generations) belong to the last generation of people who understand the word 'courtesy', and who have respect for other people's rights and feelings.
     
    Hi everyone
    Hope you all had a good long weekend..
    I travel to work by public transport (bus).
    In the mornings it’s okay but the evenings are horrible.
    The high school children are always swearing and not courteous in offering a seat to the elderly..
    I don’t like to sit at the back because these children swear and vaping ..
    When I see a seat occupied with their bag and tell them to move their bag so I can sit ..
    This young generation don’t have respect or discipline for anyone, and that’s very sad
     
    Hi everyone
    Hope you all had a good long weekend..
    I travel to work by public transport (bus).
    In the mornings it’s okay but the evenings are horrible.
    The high school children are always swearing and not courteous in offering a seat to the elderly..
    I don’t like to sit at the back because these children swear and vaping ..
    When I see a seat occupied with their bag and tell them to move their bag so I can sit ..
    This young generation don’t have respect or discipline for anyone, and that’s very sad
    The language is terrible!!! Respect and being courteous is non-existent with some of the kids 😢 it's deplorable!!! Thank goodness some parents and grandparents have bought up their children and grandchildren with good values, respect, and discipline. We use to have Prefects on public transport when I went to high school, we didn't use bad language, were courteous, respected people older than ourselves if we misbehaved we were reported to the Principal of our high schools, meetings were arranged with our parents about our conduct and we faced the consequences, detention, retribution and loss of privileges from our parents, if continuosly misbehaved the students would be expelled from the high schools. They were few and far between as respect was paramount then. 🙏
     
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    I find the 12-17 year old kids to be the worst.

    Myself and a lady in her 70's were were pushed aside by a Secondary school student as we boarded a bus just so he could get the last seat. Reported him real quick smart to his school and I know it was dealt with by the school as my granddaughters attended the same school and the issue was spoken about at Assembly the next morning.

    Also sat on a train one day and listened to some of the foulest language come out of a 14/15 year girls mouth that I have ever heard. She put me to shame. After listening to her for 3 stations, I turned around and said to her, "Damn, your mother must be so proud of the way she has raised you to have such a filthy mouth in public". Her mouth dropped open and she spluttered for a couple of minutes while an elderly couple across from me snickered behind their hands. She then apologised and didn't swear again. Part of her reason was because the guy across from her was giving her a hard time and she kept saying no but he wouldn't listen. When I had a go at her, he start laughing and I rounded on him as well and told him in no uncertain terms that NO MEANS NO and that he needs to learn the meaning of that word. He also shut up after that.
     
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