[Greg350]

Once again you have no idea.

I have no idea??? You are the one making up stories, ZERO facts, just fantasy world stuff.

Show me one ounce of evidence of what you say is true? You have nothing.

 

[BruceC]

"family contact within the ATO" Hahahahahahaha.....so a rumour, started by someone and it's spreading by idiots like you.

Why would a "family friend" within the ATO know about what a government MAY do in the future? Governments change all the time, the ATO are not involved in policies like that.

So many nutcases on here, paranoid about nothing. Stories like these come up regularly......for decades now, never happens, the world continues, the morons go on their way and more morons come along and sprout the saem BS again.

What a horrible life you must have, paranoid constantly about what the government is going to do..........in YOUR mind.

Like the Covid vaccine, that was going to kill us all "next year", that was five years ago, and it's always next year again, haha.

Obviously you have no idea on how the ATO works on behalf of the government.
You really do like to show your lack of knowledge and intelligence.
Anyway remember 1st January when the government have stated they will be introducing the law forcing companies to accept cash.
I will certainly remember to remind you when it does not happen!

 

[Greg350]

Obviously you have no idea on how the ATO works on behalf of the government.
You really do like to show your lack of knowledge and intelligence.
Anyway remember 1st January when the government have stated they will be introducing the law forcing companies to accept cash.
I will certainly remember to remind you when it does not happen!

Where did I say it would or wouldn't happen? Doesn't worry me in the slightest.

 

[Cyberchook]

All card payments have a fee attached. I use cash 95% or a Debit Card for higher amounts.

 

[mjm9]

Two offices go cashless & people are jumping to conclusions. Do people realize there is a cost for transferring cash by Armaguard, etc. That's one reason plus the security needed when you handle cash. If they all go cashless, then we can complain.

 

[Greg350]

All card payments have a fee attached. I use cash 95% or a Debit Card for higher amounts.

Rubbish, plenty of retailers do not charge a fee.

 

[Veggiepatch]

I have no idea??? You are the one making up stories, ZERO facts, just fantasy world stuff.

Show me one ounce of evidence of what you say is true? You have nothing.

I have seen NO evidence in anything you have quoted, assuming that we all assume that a screenshot is a "verifiable" fact.

You have NEVER quoted the sources of your hearsay and anecdotal diatribe.

 

[Veggiepatch]

Most tourists would be using cards. I did years ago when I was OS for 6 weeks.

We are practically at no tax return stage for years now. The vast majority of PAYG people have their returns prefilled already, just check it and confirm online.

Tax will be on our spending??? Where did you get that idea from, makes no sense. Why do the nutcases just make up rubbish and sprout this BS.

You should have stayed overseas.

In a previous post of yours, you mentioned GST. Now there is NO tax on your spending. You can't make up your feeble mind.

It hasn't been the first time you have contradicted yourself in successive posts.

Stay off the goon juice, tosswad!

 

[Greg350]

You should have stayed overseas.

In a previous post of yours, you mentioned GST. Now there is NO tax on your spending. You can't make up your feeble mind.

It hasn't been the first time you have contradicted yourself in successive posts.

Stay off the goon juice, tosswad!

If you had read the original post he said there will be no income tax only tax on spending, try to keep up.

 

[Greg350]

I have seen NO evidence in anything you have quoted, assuming that we all assume that a screenshot is a "verifiable" fact.

You have NEVER quoted the sources of your hearsay and anecdotal diatribe.

And was I talking to you, NO. But as usual you have to butt in and draw attention to yourself. And the evidence I want is this fantasy land crap your mate is sprouting, conspiracy rubbish.

What screenshot are you talking about? Do you think I make up websites just to print rubbish to trick you, FFS, you are stupid. Any screenshot I post is from reputable publications, not bullshit conspiracy theories that the other bloke is ranting about.

You must be from the UK, live in WA, whinge constantly, that's a Pom, a whinging Pom.

 

[Veggiepatch]

And was I talking to you, NO. But as usual you have to butt in and draw attention to yourself. And the evidence I want is this fantasy land crap your mate is sprouting, conspiracy rubbish.

What screenshot are you talking about? Do you think I make up websites just to print rubbish to trick you, FFS, you are stupid. Any screenshot I post is from reputable publications, not bullshit conspiracy theories that the other bloke is ranting about.

You must be from the UK, live in WA, whinge constantly, that's a Pom, a whinging Pom.

It is evident to you know less than nothing.

So I am a whinging Pom, who was born at Crown Street Women's Hospital, Sydney in 1959, with predecessors dating back to 1824 when records stopped.

And you must be an ineffectual little man who lives in a granny flat at the back of your aging and frail mother's house in Sydney's inner west, "Bad Boy Bubby" style.

You own a rusty HT Holden Monaro 350 which you bring out on weekends, accompanied by your only friend, a mangy Chihuahua. You need three pillows to allow to see through the steering wheel and are the bane of other motorists when you drive along local streets at 20 kmh below the speed limit.

But you have never done anything wrong in life, except being born.

 

[Veggiepatch]

Yes.View attachment 85723

A portable networks graphics (.png) file. 1759448487721.png to be exact!

In other words, A SCREENSHOT!!

 

[Veggiepatch]

A portable networks graphics (.png) file. 1759448487721.png to be exact!

In other words, A SCREENSHOT!!

A screenshot of a snippet from the "Bank For International Settlements", an organisation who have been accused of ethically and legally dubious practices since its creation in 1930, including insider trading.

https://www.bis.org/statistics/payment_stats/commentary2301.pdf

 

[Greg350]

A screenshot of a snippet from the "Bank For International Settlements", an organisation who have been accused of ethically and legally dubious practices since its creation in 1930, including insider trading.

https://www.bis.org/statistics/payment_stats/commentary2301.pdf

Where did I say it wasn't a screenshot?

I said "What screenshot are you talking about?" As I posted a few I was asking which one. It's called reading and comprehension.

And you're saying that my screenshot from BIS is wrong? So digital payments aren't growing, cash is becoming more common for use? You're questioning my screenshot, suggesting is from a non reputable source so you must not agree with it. Too bad, it's absolutely true

 

[Greg350]

Try to keep up with the thread - someone asked, "I'm curious - do other countries have this same issue of cash vs. digital?"

My post/screenshot was in response to that. If you don't think that's true show me YOUR facts that prove me wrong?

I remember you said Centrelink fraud only costs 9 million per year. That's a funny comment. Fraud with centrelink is in the BILLIONS. Maybe you can prove me wrong with that, lol.

And no, I live in my own home, not in Sydney, six feet tall, own a 2016 car and never had a pet. But you still sound like a whinging pom.

 

[Greg350]

Dear member Greg350, thankyou for your post. I ask the same question. Could it be that when the government knows what you are buying, they can increase and decrease the production of the commodity in demand. The controllers then have the ability to manipulate the customers by increasing the price of a service or item that is in demand, and thereby altering your finances. When someone knows what you like and don't like interms of foods, clothing, furniture, business dealings, that's when the big CEOs can place their own costs , through knowledge of consumer demand kevels. Also, perhaps the identity of the one who wants control, could be the never enough money, never happy, multibillions, governments, big CEOs, are who have invested shares, in products that are sold to the oblivious consumers, who are happily and conveniently conducting their transactions on line with their all mighty transaction card. Please, dear member Greg350, please if you have some time, share your thoughts further, on this issue of who could be wanting this world wide cashless control, and why. Have a beautiful evening.

And why would the government care? They want a strong economy, at not time has a government even suggested that you can't buy something, that's just insane. A government tries to keep people happy, they want your vote, they would not get that by restricting your spending, it's just stupid, conspiracy rubbish.

You do realise that videos like on You Tube earn money for the poster. So everytime that video is watched they get a few cents, get millions of views and they start earning big money. So many people get onto these conspiracy theories, they present this rubbish that interests the gullible, they have Facebook pages, TikTok pages, Instagram, Telegraph which all generate interest and with the internet these pages mean instant spreading of false information around the world. All this interest spreads, more and more people get interested and before long the insane theories become more like facts and the videos get more and more views, meaning more and more money for those posters.

Knowing what consumers buy has been happening for years, Fly Buys cards, Rewards cards, probably a whole host of them that I don't know about, because I don't care for them, means those businesses know what you buy and can target market to you. It's like on the internet, you may notice if you search for a certain product online that adds for that product start appearing from different places. Lots of information is shared around by companies, but the government is not and will not be interested in exactly what you buy, just total nonsense.

"cashless control" is nonsense too, the only people making a big noise about it are the ones who want to keep cash mostly as it means less tax and/or more benefits through Centrelink.

Using electronic banking is not new now, been around for decades and how has it been used in a sinister way? It hasn't, far more convenient, far safer. Cash when stolen is usually gone forever, if it gets lost, gone forever, if it gets burnt gone forever, having the money in a bank account until you use it means it's far safer. Yes of course people get scammed, of course people have money taken from them by getting into their bank accounts, but in the past cash was stolen, lost, etc and again the internet means we hear about the electronic money loss instantly around the the world. Fraud through electronic means is nothing, in most case you get your money back quickly, something that does not happen if it's cash that's stolen.

The VAST MAJORITY of people who lose money through electronic banking have enabled the criminal to take the money, and those people may well lose their actual cash as well by misplacing it, having it stolen, etc.

 

[7777]

And why would the government care? They want a strong economy, at not time has a government even suggested that you can't buy something, that's just insane. A government tries to keep people happy, they want your vote, they would not get that by restricting your spending, it's just stupid, conspiracy rubbish.

You do realise that videos like on You Tube earn money for the poster. So everytime that video is watched they get a few cents, get millions of views and they start earning big money. So many people get onto these conspiracy theories, they present this rubbish that interests the gullible, they have Facebook pages, TikTok pages, Instagram, Telegraph which all generate interest and with the internet these pages mean instant spreading of false information around the world. All this interest spreads, more and more people get interested and before long the insane theories become more like facts and the videos get more and more views, meaning more and more money for those posters.

Knowing what consumers buy has been happening for years, Fly Buys cards, Rewards cards, probably a whole host of them that I don't know about, because I don't care for them, means those businesses know what you buy and can target market to you. It's like on the internet, you may notice if you search for a certain product online that adds for that product start appearing from different places. Lots of information is shared around by companies, but the government is not and will not be interested in exactly what you buy, just total nonsense.

"cashless control" is nonsense too, the only people making a big noise about it are the ones who want to keep cash mostly as it means less tax and/or more benefits through Centrelink.

Using electronic banking is not new now, been around for decades and how has it been used in a sinister way? It hasn't, far more convenient, far safer. Cash when stolen is usually gone forever, if it gets lost, gone forever, if it gets burnt gone forever, having the money in a bank account until you use it means it's far safer. Yes of course people get scammed, of course people have money taken from them by getting into their bank accounts, but in the past cash was stolen, lost, etc and again the internet means we hear about the electronic money loss instantly around the the world. Fraud through electronic means is nothing, in most case you get your money back quickly, something that does not happen if it's cash that's stolen.

The VAST MAJORITY of people who lose money through electronic banking have enabled the criminal to take the money, and those people may well lose their actual cash as well by misplacing it, having it stolen, etc.

Dear member Greg350, thankyou for your post. Dear Greg350, may l say, with much appreciation and great respect, that when I read your posts, l feel like l am reading a post written by a Professor from Harvard. Your posts contain so much valuable and precious information, that so many members here would appreciate so much. Thankyou dear member Greg350, for sharing your very inspiring and very valued posts. Have a beautiful evening. God bless. With kindness regards. 7777

 

[BruceC]

Rubbish, plenty of retailers do not charge a fee.

Most retailers charge a fee.
How about you put up a list of those that don’t instead of mouthing off.

 

[7777]

Most retailers charge a fee.
How about you put up a list of those that don’t instead of mouthing off.

Dear member BruceC, thankyou for your post. There are no card fees at Woolworths, Coles and IGA. Have a great week.

 

[BruceC]

Dear member BruceC, thankyou for your post. There are no card fees at Woolworths, Coles and IGA. Have a great week.

So that is three retailers. I think you can add KMart and most petrol outlets but many many more, restaurant, cafes, smaller retailers and even Linkt charge credit card fees.
Even our local Fish & Chip shop has started charging a fee..