She was 76 and died after routine surgery—‘Had this tool been available' she might still be alive

Medical procedures in regional hospitals are meant to follow strict safety protocols, especially when dealing with vulnerable patients.

But when something goes wrong during what should be a routine operation, families are often left searching for answers.

A recent inquest has revealed concerning oversights that may have contributed to a tragic and preventable death.


A surgeon’s decision to proceed with a high-risk operation at a regional South Australian hospital has come under scrutiny following the death of a 76-year-old great-grandmother.

Kathleen Ethel Salter underwent gall bladder surgery at Clare Hospital in June 2020—an operation that resulted in a fatal outcome after serious complications emerged during the procedure.

A recent coronial inquest revealed that there were two key moments where her death could have been prevented, had different decisions been made.


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Dr Darren Lituri, the surgeon at the centre of the case, began the operation with no indication from pre-surgical tests that anything was unusual. But once inside, he discovered that Mrs Salter’s gall bladder was ‘unexpectedly inflamed’ and embedded into her liver.

Despite this unexpected and dangerous complication, he chose to continue with the surgery rather than halt and reschedule it at a better-equipped metropolitan hospital.

‘It was at this point Dr Lituri should have abandoned the procedure and rescheduled for another time and at a metropolitan hospital,’ Deputy State Coroner Naomi Kereru found.

Instead, the procedure went ahead—leading to what Ms Kereru described as a critical error. Dr Lituri, she said, had become misoriented and ‘clipped the wrong structures, being the common bile duct and the hepatic artery’. He had no idea he’d made the mistake until much later.

Mrs Salter was later transferred to the Royal Adelaide Hospital, where she underwent further surgery but ultimately died from ‘multi-organ failure and sepsis due to complications’.


The inquest also uncovered that four gauze packs had been left inside her body and that she was given blood that was more than 12 hours out of date. However, Ms Kereru noted that these issues had no clinical impact on her cause of death.

Another significant finding involved the absence of a CT cholangiogram machine—an imaging tool that could have clarified the internal anatomy during the operation. Ms Kereru said the machine’s availability could have changed the course of events entirely.

‘This would have illuminated the anatomical area in which Dr Lituri was and should not have been, providing him an opportunity to correct himself,’ she said. ‘Had this tool been available to Dr Lituri, Mrs Salter’s death could have been prevented.’


During the inquest, Dr Lituri told the court that he now only performs gall bladder removals when a cholangiogram can be done.

Ms Kereru recommended that the Health Minister consider ensuring CT cholangiogram facilities are available at all rural hospitals where elective gall bladder surgeries take place. She also advised the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons to include training for surgical trainees that emphasises the importance of stopping procedures when unexpected, high-risk complications arise.

In her findings, Ms Kereru acknowledged that three external reviews had been conducted into Mrs Salter’s care and that Clare Hospital had since updated its protocols to prevent the use of out-of-date blood in future cases.


This isn’t the first time Australia’s healthcare system has faced serious questions over patient safety—especially in high-pressure hospital settings.

For those wanting to better understand how systemic issues can impact care, this report is well worth a watch.


Source: Youtube/60 Minutes Australia​


Key Takeaways

  • Kathleen Salter died after gall bladder surgery at Clare Hospital when her surgeon clipped the wrong internal structures.
  • Deputy State Coroner Naomi Kereru found the surgeon should have abandoned the operation once complications were discovered.
  • A CT cholangiogram machine, which was unavailable, could have helped prevent the fatal error.
  • Recommendations included better equipment access in rural hospitals and more training on when to stop risky procedures.

With more surgeries being performed in regional hospitals, do you think enough is being done to protect vulnerable patients in high-risk situations? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.

In a previous story, we looked into the heartbreaking case of a man who had his jaw mistakenly removed during surgery—raising serious questions about hospital safeguards.

For those who often rely on the healthcare system more frequently, stories like these highlight how crucial accurate diagnoses and clear communication truly are.

If medical mishaps concern you, that one’s worth a read too.

Read more: Doctors removed his jaw by mistake—how could this happen?
 
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It's not just regional hospitals.
In November 2019 I was a healthy 58 year old hard working woman full of life.
I went in for surgery to remove my gallbladder when the surgeon also decided to remove a umbilical hernia which never bothered me.

I never recovered , I had a bad infection with ooze coming out of my belly button. Every time I bent down it felt like a razor cutting into my belly.
Every time I went back to the surgeon he told me it was normal then in July 2020 and my last visit I yelled at him that what I had been going through wasn't normal. He then wanted to put me into hospital and operate and there was no way I was letting him.

I got a new referral to a surgeon who was recommended by my daughters father inlaw and that surgeon was my angel who listened and helped me not just brushed me off like the original surgeon.

He put me into hospital and did a debrivement I was in hospital for 6 days. Sadly it didn't work. I had 18 months of Keflex and in the end needed more surgery which he was trying not to do as it was major surgery.

He needed to remove the mesh and my whole umbilicus he then discovered that the mesh he used was recalled in 2015 my original surgery was 2019. But not only did he use recalled mesh he had stapled it to my small and large bowel loops. My surgeon said it was a very serious blunder.

From everything I went through I can't do a lot of things I use too. I can nolonger do gardening, I can nolonger lift . I can't bend down and do little things we take for granted like cutting my toe nails.
I now suffer severe depression and anxiety which I never did before even after having 13 babies I never ever experienced depression.
I do have a wonderful psychologists who has been a huge help and told ne what I suffered was the sane as ptsd . It was trauma.
I can nolonger work. I have days where I don't leave my room or days where I won't leave my house.
When I go shopping I end up leaving and going home after a short time.
I struggle going to events but I push myself .

The pain I suffer now in my stomach is nerve pain. Because of The amount of abdominal muscle and removal of my whole umbilicus I needed huge stitches to try a pull the muscles together because of the huge hole left. My surgeon said normally he would had put a new piece of mesh but how bad the infection was the mesh would have drawn infection to it, now the stitches are in a nerve ( couldn't be helped) and now I have nerve damage and I'm now taking Lyrica

I now tell people to question your doctor, they a just people not Gods .
They do make mistakes
Don't be afraid to get a second or even a 3rd opinion
 
It's not just regional hospitals.
In November 2019 I was a healthy 58 year old hard working woman full of life.
I went in for surgery to remove my gallbladder when the surgeon also decided to remove a umbilical hernia which never bothered me.

I never recovered , I had a bad infection with ooze coming out of my belly button. Every time I bent down it felt like a razor cutting into my belly.
Every time I went back to the surgeon he told me it was normal then in July 2020 and my last visit I yelled at him that what I had been going through wasn't normal. He then wanted to put me into hospital and operate and there was no way I was letting him.

I got a new referral to a surgeon who was recommended by my daughters father inlaw and that surgeon was my angel who listened and helped me not just brushed me off like the original surgeon.

He put me into hospital and did a debrivement I was in hospital for 6 days. Sadly it didn't work. I had 18 months of Keflex and in the end needed more surgery which he was trying not to do as it was major surgery.

He needed to remove the mesh and my whole umbilicus he then discovered that the mesh he used was recalled in 2015 my original surgery was 2019. But not only did he use recalled mesh he had stapled it to my small and large bowel loops. My surgeon said it was a very serious blunder.

From everything I went through I can't do a lot of things I use too. I can nolonger do gardening, I can nolonger lift . I can't bend down and do little things we take for granted like cutting my toe nails.
I now suffer severe depression and anxiety which I never did before even after having 13 babies I never ever experienced depression.
I do have a wonderful psychologists who has been a huge help and told ne what I suffered was the sane as ptsd . It was trauma.
I can nolonger work. I have days where I don't leave my room or days where I won't leave my house.
When I go shopping I end up leaving and going home after a short time.
I struggle going to events but I push myself .

The pain I suffer now in my stomach is nerve pain. Because of The amount of abdominal muscle and removal of my whole umbilicus I needed huge stitches to try a pull the muscles together because of the huge hole left. My surgeon said normally he would had put a new piece of mesh but how bad the infection was the mesh would have drawn infection to it, now the stitches are in a nerve ( couldn't be helped) and now I have nerve damage and I'm now taking Lyrica

I now tell people to question your doctor, they a just people not Gods .
They do make mistakes
Don't be afraid to get a second or even a 3rd opinion
What a truly horrible experience…You’re right though, ultimately you are responsible for yourself, and you really do have to question your doctor and decisions they make……as you say, they are just people…
 
It's not just regional hospitals.
In November 2019 I was a healthy 58 year old hard working woman full of life.
I went in for surgery to remove my gallbladder when the surgeon also decided to remove a umbilical hernia which never bothered me.

I never recovered , I had a bad infection with ooze coming out of my belly button. Every time I bent down it felt like a razor cutting into my belly.
Every time I went back to the surgeon he told me it was normal then in July 2020 and my last visit I yelled at him that what I had been going through wasn't normal. He then wanted to put me into hospital and operate and there was no way I was letting him.

I got a new referral to a surgeon who was recommended by my daughters father inlaw and that surgeon was my angel who listened and helped me not just brushed me off like the original surgeon.

He put me into hospital and did a debrivement I was in hospital for 6 days. Sadly it didn't work. I had 18 months of Keflex and in the end needed more surgery which he was trying not to do as it was major surgery.

He needed to remove the mesh and my whole umbilicus he then discovered that the mesh he used was recalled in 2015 my original surgery was 2019. But not only did he use recalled mesh he had stapled it to my small and large bowel loops. My surgeon said it was a very serious blunder.

From everything I went through I can't do a lot of things I use too. I can nolonger do gardening, I can nolonger lift . I can't bend down and do little things we take for granted like cutting my toe nails.
I now suffer severe depression and anxiety which I never did before even after having 13 babies I never ever experienced depression.
I do have a wonderful psychologists who has been a huge help and told ne what I suffered was the sane as ptsd . It was trauma.
I can nolonger work. I have days where I don't leave my room or days where I won't leave my house.
When I go shopping I end up leaving and going home after a short time.
I struggle going to events but I push myself .

The pain I suffer now in my stomach is nerve pain. Because of The amount of abdominal muscle and removal of my whole umbilicus I needed huge stitches to try a pull the muscles together because of the huge hole left. My surgeon said normally he would had put a new piece of mesh but how bad the infection was the mesh would have drawn infection to it, now the stitches are in a nerve ( couldn't be helped) and now I have nerve damage and I'm now taking Lyrica

I now tell people to question your doctor, they a just people not Gods .
They do make mistakes
Don't be afraid to get a second or even a 3rd opinion
OMG, so sorry to hear @Suzanne rose and I can genuinely relate, having had similar experiences!
As mentioned in a previous article, I had a botched appendectomy at age 14, causing peritonitis (infection of the peritoneum - abdominal lining), which was only discovered days later.
This resulted in fertility problems, due to massive scarring throughout my abdomen, including many organs, discovered by a fertility specialist.

After going through numerous fertility tests, including 3 laparotomies (incision in the abdomen) - NOT lobotomies (brain surgeries - still awaiting that 😁) at a check-up 2 weeks later, the doctor suddenly went berserk, yelling and swearing at the top of his voice.
Eventually, after calming down, he told me he had discovered 2 swabs left behind in my uterine cavity after the 3rd incision.
This, of course, could have started another infection after all the trouble he was attempting to undo, caused by the first one!

The unknown pain and discomfort that increased throughout the years only increased and worsened during my pregnancies.
The first time I had some relief was after a hysterectomy at 35.

Sadly, at age 49, a work accident changed that, as well as the rest of my life.
It was then that my depression skyrocketed, especially going through multiple surgeries, a drawn-out court case, alone, unable to work and the constant abuse from doctors working for the defence.
Today, the aftermath of everything is showing its ugly face with more health issues and mental instability!

All the best from the bottom of my heart
@Suzanne rose, I so admire you with 13 children... I wanted only 4 and ended up with 2 miracles who will never really know how special they are to me! 💕💕
 
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OMG, so sorry to hear @Suzanne rose and I can genuinely relate, having had similar experiences!
As mentioned in a previous article, I had a botched appendectomy at age 14, causing peritonitis (infection of the peritoneum - abdominal lining), which was only discovered days later.
This resulted in fertility problems, due to massive scarring throughout my abdomen, including many organs, discovered by a fertility specialist.

After going through numerous fertility tests, including 3 laparotomies (incision in the abdomen) - NOT lobotomies (brain surgeries - still awaiting that 😁) at a check-up 2 weeks later, the doctor suddenly went berserk, yelling and swearing at the top of his voice.
Eventually, after calming down, he told me he had discovered 2 swabs left behind in my uterine cavity after the 3rd incision.
This, of course, could have started another infection after all the trouble he was attempting to undo, caused by the first one!

The unknown pain and discomfort that increased throughout the years only increased and worsened during my pregnancies.
The first time I had some relief was after a hysterectomy at 35.

Sadly, at age 49, a work accident changed that, as well as the rest of my life.
It was then that my depression skyrocketed, especially going through multiple surgeries, a drawn-out court case, alone, unable to work and the constant abuse from doctors working for the defence.
Today, the aftermath of everything is showing its ugly face with more health issues and mental instability!

All the best from the bottom of my heart
@Suzanne rose, I so admire you with 13 children... I wanted only 4 and ended up with 2 miracles who will never really know how special they are to me! 💕💕
I sued and went to mediation last year. I didn't get what my barrister said I would and wanted me to take it to court . Seeing how I was on the day of mediation I told my Barrister and Solicitor I couldn't. My solicitor said I did well.
People think money can cure everything but believe me it didn't.
I'm still fighting depression and the nerve pain is no better. My surgeon wants to operate again and remove the stitches and add a mesh as he said the infection is completely gone. He can't guarantee the nerve pain will be fixed but said it's the only option left.
My head won't let me do it as with each operation the pain gets worst.

I feel you and I guess you really don't know what people like us are going through unless you have lived it.

I was such a strong person , on many occasions I left straight from the labour room to go home. One baby I had at 6 am I was at home hanging washing at 9am. That was me !!
 
I had radioactive seeds implanted in my prostate several years ago, age 65, a fairly routine operation I was told. 6 weeks later I was rushed in for open heart surgery to replace my aorta due to a blood infection sighted as sepsis from e - coli bacteria. I almost died. Now I have to watch I don't overdo things and look forward to replacement valves every 7 to 10 years, at my age. I sought costly legal advice but guess what, hospitals and surgeons are untouchable through disclaimers. No accountability whatsoever!
 
I had radioactive seeds implanted in my prostate several years ago, age 65, a fairly routine operation I was told. 6 weeks later I was rushed in for open heart surgery to replace my aorta due to a blood infection sighted as sepsis from e - coli bacteria. I almost died. Now I have to watch I don't overdo things and look forward to replacement valves every 7 to 10 years, at my age. I sought costly legal advice but guess what, hospitals and surgeons are untouchable through disclaimers. No accountability whatsoever!
They are definitely not untouchable if it is negligence then it's negligence and they have to pay.
Although there are side affects with certain surgeries that are no fault of the surgeons.

I used a no win no pay solicitor. Their fees are higher but after gathering information if they feel you wont win they won't take it on.

Try solicitors like Law Partners or GMP both excellent
 
It's not just regional hospitals.
In November 2019 I was a healthy 58 year old hard working woman full of life.
I went in for surgery to remove my gallbladder when the surgeon also decided to remove a umbilical hernia which never bothered me.

I never recovered , I had a bad infection with ooze coming out of my belly button. Every time I bent down it felt like a razor cutting into my belly.
Every time I went back to the surgeon he told me it was normal then in July 2020 and my last visit I yelled at him that what I had been going through wasn't normal. He then wanted to put me into hospital and operate and there was no way I was letting him.

I got a new referral to a surgeon who was recommended by my daughters father inlaw and that surgeon was my angel who listened and helped me not just brushed me off like the original surgeon.

He put me into hospital and did a debrivement I was in hospital for 6 days. Sadly it didn't work. I had 18 months of Keflex and in the end needed more surgery which he was trying not to do as it was major surgery.

He needed to remove the mesh and my whole umbilicus he then discovered that the mesh he used was recalled in 2015 my original surgery was 2019. But not only did he use recalled mesh he had stapled it to my small and large bowel loops. My surgeon said it was a very serious blunder.

From everything I went through I can't do a lot of things I use too. I can nolonger do gardening, I can nolonger lift . I can't bend down and do little things we take for granted like cutting my toe nails.
I now suffer severe depression and anxiety which I never did before even after having 13 babies I never ever experienced depression.
I do have a wonderful psychologists who has been a huge help and told ne what I suffered was the sane as ptsd . It was trauma.
I can nolonger work. I have days where I don't leave my room or days where I won't leave my house.
When I go shopping I end up leaving and going home after a short time.
I struggle going to events but I push myself .

The pain I suffer now in my stomach is nerve pain. Because of The amount of abdominal muscle and removal of my whole umbilicus I needed huge stitches to try a pull the muscles together because of the huge hole left. My surgeon said normally he would had put a new piece of mesh but how bad the infection was the mesh would have drawn infection to it, now the stitches are in a nerve ( couldn't be helped) and now I have nerve damage and I'm now taking Lyrica

I now tell people to question your doctor, they a just people not Gods .
They do make mistakes
Don't be afraid to get a second or even a 3rd opinion
Hi "SR",
How I've mentioned to you before, with all of your disclosed "Medical" problems, how on earth have you survived & still to be here ?
We all picture you in a completely different light altogether, especially with your style of postings.

Keep as sweet as all of your "Delicious" which you share with us.

All of the best wishes to you, keep your chin up & forever, keep smiling.

These wishes are also extended to the many members on this forum who are also suffering from devastating illnesses which many are.
 
I sued and went to mediation last year. I didn't get what my barrister said I would and wanted me to take it to court . Seeing how I was on the day of mediation I told my Barrister and Solicitor I couldn't. My solicitor said I did well.
People think money can cure everything but believe me it didn't.
I'm still fighting depression and the nerve pain is no better. My surgeon wants to operate again and remove the stitches and add a mesh as he said the infection is completely gone. He can't guarantee the nerve pain will be fixed but said it's the only option left.
My head won't let me do it as with each operation the pain gets worst.

I feel you and I guess you really don't know what people like us are going through unless you have lived it.

I was such a strong person , on many occasions I left straight from the labour room to go home. One baby I had at 6 am I was at home hanging washing at 9am. That was me !!
So very true!
I too, used to be strong, and the rock for all!
Worked full-time, volunteered min 3 days a week, did all my own cooking for the family - and LOVED it! Not working, is what I miss most!

Too many people (especially friends online) think I still am, but would know better if they met me today.
The worst part is not just the physical strength, but the mental strength.
I find it all very humiliating - especially not even being able to clean my own home!

You also reminded me of when I had my hysterectomy (the old-fashioned cut under the belly) 6 hours after the op, I got up to have a shower, left the next day and never took a single pill for pain then!
Now, I have been on opioids for 16 years non-stop and get very little relief!
 
To everyone out there who are suffering with serious illnesses, or problems from botched surgeries, you all have my utmost sympathy. To Suzanne & mOiOz, how on earth do you both cope? I was aware that both of you had health problems, but the way that you are both so generous with your time, with recipes, jokes and always taking an interest in what is happening has totally blown me away. I wish there was a magic cure for everyone but I know there isn’t. What I find interesting is that often the people who suffer the most, are often the most cheerful, my husband is another example. I was asked only during the week how did I cheer Ted up when he has a bad day. The answer is simple, he doesn’t ever have bad days. I suspect that you two ladies are similar. Suzanne, how on earth did you manage 13 children? I found birthing one difficult enough, and, mOiOz, I’m glad that you have your 2 miracles, and I’m sure they know how precious they are, as my boy knows how much he means to me. All we can do is keep moving forward. 😘
 
To everyone out there who are suffering with serious illnesses, or problems from botched surgeries, you all have my utmost sympathy. To Suzanne & mOiOz, how on earth do you both cope? I was aware that both of you had health problems, but the way that you are both so generous with your time, with recipes, jokes and always taking an interest in what is happening has totally blown me away. I wish there was a magic cure for everyone but I know there isn’t. What I find interesting is that often the people who suffer the most, are often the most cheerful, my husband is another example. I was asked only during the week how did I cheer Ted up when he has a bad day. The answer is simple, he doesn’t ever have bad days. I suspect that you two ladies are similar. Suzanne, how on earth did you manage 13 children? I found birthing one difficult enough, and, mOiOz, I’m glad that you have your 2 miracles, and I’m sure they know how precious they are, as my boy knows how much he means to me. All we can do is keep moving forward. 😘
I said to my psychologist that I feel like I'm stuck in a pity party which I hate.
I love cooking and that is the one thing I still do although if I'm standing too long I'm in pain so I do either sit or lay down in between cooking.
I still do housework but nowhere near what I did but have to say hubby does alot of it eg vacuum, mop and bathrooms. He now knows exactly how I want it done. But in saying that he also isn't well with high blood pressure.
I keep saying to myself at least I'm alive, at least I'm not fighting cancer and yes I'm in pain but I need to just deal with it the same as my depression.

I will read what others are going through on here and that is why I'm giving away so much stuff.
 
How long had the hospital had the blood ??
I don't know if people know that blood donated by people in SA goes to Melbourne for processing then some comes back to Adelaide. SA blood used to be processed in Adelaide. ((I know somebody who works for Red Cross Lifeblood as it is now known in Adelaide)) The storage in SA is no longer in Adelaide CBD. It's in a western suburb.
 
How long had the hospital had the blood ??
I don't know if people know that blood donated by people in SA goes to Melbourne for processing then some comes back to Adelaide. SA blood used to be processed in Adelaide. ((I know somebody who works for Red Cross Lifeblood as it is now known in Adelaide)) The storage in SA is no longer in Adelaide CBD. It's in a western suburb.
My daughter needed a blood transfusion on Wednesday and asked if she could use my blood as we are both the same. Tge answer was a definite no
 
To everyone out there who are suffering with serious illnesses, or problems from botched surgeries, you all have my utmost sympathy. To Suzanne & mOiOz, how on earth do you both cope? I was aware that both of you had health problems, but the way that you are both so generous with your time, with recipes, jokes and always taking an interest in what is happening has totally blown me away. I wish there was a magic cure for everyone but I know there isn’t. What I find interesting is that often the people who suffer the most, are often the most cheerful, my husband is another example. I was asked only during the week how did I cheer Ted up when he has a bad day. The answer is simple, he doesn’t ever have bad days. I suspect that you two ladies are similar. Suzanne, how on earth did you manage 13 children? I found birthing one difficult enough, and, mOiOz, I’m glad that you have your 2 miracles, and I’m sure they know how precious they are, as my boy knows how much he means to me. All we can do is keep moving forward. 😘
Thank you, Patti, for your moral support.
There are people a helluva lot worse off than me (including friends) so, I feel sympathy for them.
The only problem with patients who have chronic and acute pain is, doctors and nurses particularly, don't take you seriously or even believe you a lot of the time. After all, you have no proof...!
As long as you don't die, you're not a priority!
It's amazing how one can manage to, mostly cope, when you have to.
As the saying goes...

HANG IN THERE, MATE!!!
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It's a "pain in the neck but I suppose they have to check there is nothing "foregein in it"
Was that because of surgery? If you know you are going to have surgery you can "donate" blood and stipulate it is for your use only. I'm not sure how far in advance they advise you to do that. I know somebody who had done that a few times
 
It's a "pain in the neck but I suppose they have to check there is nothing "foregein in it"
Was that because of surgery? If you know you are going to have surgery you can "donate" blood and stipulate it is for your use only. I'm not sure how far in advance they advise you to do that. I know somebody who had done that a few times
Was that done for religious reasons, perhaps?
I know the Jehovah's Witnesses religion does not permit blood transfusions, as they believe your blood contains your soul.
So, I guess if it's your own blood one can still have a transfusion, as you're still keeping your own soul!
Does anyone know?
 
Was that done for religious reasons, perhaps?
I know the Jehovah's Witnesses religion does not permit blood transfusions, as they believe your blood contains your soul.
So, I guess if it's your own blood one can still have a transfusion, as you're still keeping your own soul!
Does anyone know?
Jehovah witnesses can't except any blood even their own.
They do take the scriptures wrong , it actually doesn't say anything about using blood for medical reasons

I wanted to give my daughter my blood but they said even giving a relatives blood it takes time and still needs to go through testing.
Why I asked was they said even though it is tested ect you can still get infections ect from the blood another side affect is an allergic reaction.
 
Was that done for religious reasons, perhaps?
I know the Jehovah's Witnesses religion does not permit blood transfusions, as they believe your blood contains your soul.
So, I guess if it's your own blood one can still have a transfusion, as you're still keeping your own soul!
Does anyone know?
No it wasn't done for religious reasons. It was major surgery and he had a tendency to bleed heavily even from a cut or scratch
 
Jehovah witnesses can't except any blood even their own.
They do take the scriptures wrong , it actually doesn't say anything about using blood for medical reasons

I wanted to give my daughter my blood but they said even giving a relatives blood it takes time and still needs to go through testing.
Why I asked was they said even though it is tested ect you can still get infections ect from the blood another side affect is an allergic reaction.
Thanks for that info! (y)
 

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