[Viellarde]

I have often wondered why you are posting so early in the morning. Over the last months I have learnt of your ills and ailments, and I offer you my thoughts and prayers. I am on the move all through the day, and spend a few minutes now and then on SDC. Very late to bed but I sleep soundly for 7hrs.

 

[Viellarde]

Just a shout out to all the brave animals who gave their lives for one & all in all wars!
It’s Purple Poppy Day today!
My grandfather was a Gallipoli veteran & was in Eygpt in Light Horse Brigade!
Those beautiful horses were their “mates” & when the soldiers left, they had to take their “mate” out in desert & shoot them, because the army wouldn’t bring them home!!! The soldiers wouldn’t leave them to the locals who wouldn’t have treated them well! I think one was left in Eygpt with a family who promised to look after the horse & one was left with a family in Turkey that the soldier smuggled to them rather than shoot him!
He was known as “Bill the “Bastard”!!
If you enjoy reading, have a read of the book “Bill the Bastard”, it’s great!
Anyhow, spare a thought for these brave animals, dogs, horses, pigeons & others that helped the war effort & still do, along with our police dogs & horses, emergency service dogs in many countries! We owe them a great deal!🕊 Lest We Forget

Thank you. Although I've heard what happened to the war animals, I've never heard of Purple Poppy Day. From now on I'll remember the date.

 

[Beckjennie]

Yes I've found sleep essential for managing well. I have started taking magnesium about an hour before my normal bed time. It helps me to relax and drop off to sleep and stay asleep. I'm getting 6-8 hours from which I wake refreshed. I also try not drink much close to bedtime so I have less nighttime toilet calls.

 

[Lynnne]

I've started sleeping better over the last few months and attribute this to a natural supplement that I take daily.
Before taking supplement I'd pray whenever I woke up and this always helped. I'd always stay in bed, only got up to go to toilet. Going for walks regularly helped. Also being barefooted on the earth, grass, sand, rocks helped too.

 

[Sherril54]

I've started sleeping better over the last few months and attribute this to a natural supplement that I take daily.
Before taking supplement I'd pray whenever I woke up and this always helped. I'd always stay in bed, only got up to go to toilet. Going for walks regularly helped. Also being barefooted on the earth, grass, sand, rocks helped too.

Could you please let me know what the natural supplement is? Thank you.

 

[Nevertiki]

Yes, I’ve tried melatonin without success. I’ve undertaken Sleep Hygiene practices over many months, even stopped coffee ️, but these have had no benefit. After several stints in hospital it has been identified that I have a number os issues that impact on a decent nights sleep. Despite never sleeping well though I have noticed other SDC members awake at all odd hours.
Are we all tarred with the same brush or are sleep issues synonymous with the SDC?
Do members have strategies that work for them? If you do it would be great if you would share!

Ivory, I love to see the sunrise through my bedroom window. That’s when I get up and start my day. So my sleeping strategy follows the early-to-bed-early-to-rise motto. I am usually blotto by 9pm. I’m lucky to have no pains or aches as you and so many do, and have catnaps like Garfield — anywhere, anytime. But if I wake during the night and want to go back to sleep I open my latest audiobook. No matter how fascinating the story, I rarely make the end of a chapter.

 

[Ivory]

Ivory, I love to see the sunrise through my bedroom window. That’s when I get up and start my day. So my sleeping strategy follows the early-to-bed-early-to-rise motto. I am usually blotto by 9pm. I’m lucky to have no pains or aches as you and so many do, and have catnaps like Garfield — anywhere, anytime. But if I wake during the night and want to go back to sleep I open my latest audiobook. No matter how fascinating the story, I rarely make the end of a chapter.

I’ve never tried audiobooks before because I think they would put me to sleep then I’d spend half of the nxt day finding the page. Not sure of the slang in QLD anymore, but blotto down here has negative, alcohol based connotations . Thanks for your feedback

 

[Ivory]

Yes I've found sleep essential for managing well. I have started taking magnesium about an hour before my normal bed time. It helps me to relax and drop off to sleep and stay asleep. I'm getting 6-8 hours from which I wake refreshed. I also try not drink much close to bedtime so I have less nighttime toilet calls.

Beckjennie, what amount of Magnesium do you take. I take it twice per day on Dr advice but wondering if I’m taking too low a dose. Thanks

 

[Ivory]

I have often wondered why you are posting so early in the morning. Over the last months I have learnt of your ills and ailments, and I offer you my thoughts and prayers. I am on the move all through the day, and spend a few minutes now and then on SDC. Very late to bed but I sleep soundly for 7hrs.

Thank you for your thoughts and prayers. I hope I haven’t dared you with my issues and truss I haven’t bored you with overbearing details. It’s good to be busy both for the body and mind, but I rely on my mind these days, and love the interactive, quite stimulating forum to be a good diversionary tactic these days. Thanks again

 

[Viellarde]

Thank you for your thoughts and prayers. I hope I haven’t dared you with my issues and truss I haven’t bored you with overbearing details. It’s good to be busy both for the body and mind, but I rely on my mind these days, and love the interactive, quite stimulating forum to be a good diversionary tactic these days. Thanks again

I always look for your posts. Don't ever apologies for sharing. To me Friendship means total acceptance and is to be treasured.

 

[Royal Watcher]

On another note, my grandfather was a Gallipoli Veteran and I have been told that he was known as "Bill the Bastard" maybe that was a common term used for the soldiers, I`m not sure and did not know there was a book called "Bill the Bastard" and will be looking into this. Maybe this is just a coincidence? My Grandfather was William Patrick Berg, he enlisted at 16 yrs of age, discharged 2 yrs latter and suffered the rest of his life with PTSS. He passed away when I was 8 yrs old and the family did not talk about the war and as far as I know he would not discuss the war, he did not take part in any ANZAC events.

Oh please do look up Bill the Bastard it’s a great read! Someone in my local RSL recommended it to me!
I’m sure the term bast… was used by many as its very Aussie to call your mates that!!
My grandfather told me a lot about the war because I was interested but my grandma used to fob it off & they referred to it as being “war happy” if they talked about it!
I have always believed that listening is a skill that a lot need & few have!
Allowing one to talk (if they want to) about things does a lot to aid mental health problems!! I know from experience that it helps no end to have people listen to you when you need to get things OUT & not try to bury them because inside they fester!!
My son was in ADF for 12 years & he did his tour of duty & saw a lot but talked when got back so helped him, but not all people can endure what they experience & even tho we’re better at the support for our veterans & their families than we were back in then, we have a long ways to go! So many more of our soldiers are dying when they get home than in theatres of war & that’s not acceptable!!
We owe them all so much

 

[deni67]

Yes I've found sleep essential for managing well. I have started taking magnesium about an hour before my normal bed time. It helps me to relax and drop off to sleep and stay asleep. I'm getting 6-8 hours from which I wake refreshed. I also try not drink much close to bedtime so I have less nighttime toilet calls.

I take magnesium for nightime restless legs, but I never thought to actually take it at night to aid with sleep, thank you!

 

[Sherril54]

Oh please do look up Bill the Bastard it’s a great read! Someone in my local RSL recommended it to me!
I’m sure the term bast… was used by many as its very Aussie to call your mates that!!
My grandfather told me a lot about the war because I was interested but my grandma used to fob it off & they referred to it as being “war happy” if they talked about it!
I have always believed that listening is a skill that a lot need & few have!
Allowing one to talk (if they want to) about things does a lot to aid mental health problems!! I know from experience that it helps no end to have people listen to you when you need to get things OUT & not try to bury them because inside they fester!!
My son was in ADF for 12 years & he did his tour of duty & saw a lot but talked when got back so helped him, but not all people can endure what they experience & even tho we’re better at the support for our veterans & their families than we were back in then, we have a long ways to go! So many more of our soldiers are dying when they get home than in theatres of war & that’s not acceptable!!
We owe them all so much

Thank you and that is for sure. Although I`m a pacifist, I have nothing but respect for those who were prepared to give up their lives for what they believed in.

 

[Royal Watcher]

Thank you and that is for sure. Although I`m a pacifist, I have nothing but respect for those who were prepared to give up their lives for what they believed in.

While I have respect for your choice to be a pacifist, I can’t agree with not being prepared to help defend the right to have those choices!
If we as a society were all peaceful people & didn’t covet power & possessions that don’t belong to us & had respect for basic human rights, I’d be happy to be peace loving! But that’s not the way our world is or ever has been, so there will always be the need for people to give their lives to defend those rights & choices of others!
As is on the war memorials,
“Greater love has no-one than to lay down their life for a friend”
I am proud that my family has those people who were prepared to do that!
I appreciate the fact that you have that respect for them as well!
I can tell you, not all of the soldiers may believe that in certain cases their country should take part in all theatres of war, but they do their duty as members of the defence force that they made a pledge to! We should never make them feel like they did that in vain, like the disrespect that has been shown to soldiers both here & elsewhere when they return home!
That brings nothing but shame to the people that take part in that behaviour!
Lest We Forget

 

[Sherril54]

While I have respect for your choice to be a pacifist, I can’t agree with not being prepared to help defend the right to have those choices!
If we as a society were all peaceful people & didn’t covet power & possessions that don’t belong to us & had respect for basic human rights, I’d be happy to be peace loving! But that’s not the way our world is or ever has been, so there will always be the need for people to give their lives to defend those rights & choices of others!
As is on the war memorials,
“Greater love has no-one than to lay down their life for a friend”
I am proud that my family has those people who were prepared to do that!
I appreciate the fact that you have that respect for them as well!
I can tell you, not all of the soldiers may believe that in certain cases their country should take part in all theatres of war, but they do their duty as members of the defence force that they made a pledge to! We should never make them feel like they did that in vain, like the disrespect that has been shown to soldiers both here & elsewhere when they return home!
That brings nothing but shame to the people that take part in that behaviour!
Lest We Forget

I would never ever make a current or a returned defence person feel that they were disrepected in anyway at all. However the POWERS THAT BE have continually shown a deep disrespect for those who choose to do so. My grandfather was used as fodder in a war (WW1} that had nothing to do with Australia, most of his regiment were slaughtered, he survived after being gassed, buried in the trenches for 7 days, shot in the leg and then finally returned home. He developed PTSD and was treated with contempt by his community and the government, in and out of hospital, was not given a pension for years. He did marry and had five kids and for long time they were more or less homeless, it had a tremendously bad effect on his wife and children, he could be O.K for 6 months and then go down again. I have friends and now neighbours who are victims of various wars mainly Vietnam, same deal, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. My next door neighbour is on so much medication he is rarely seen outdoors and so bombed out when you do see him. Also my father was in the services the Royal Australian Navy (Korean War) and although not physically damaged was away from us on and off for years and had a terrible effect on us his children and his wife. This is my reason for being a pacifist, I have personally experienced the damage caused by war, my view is that if people are not prepared to particpate in wars then there would be no fodder to destroy.

 

[Mistymoonbeam]

Minevitable hasn't been as bad as yours but I get night when my C-Pap machine keeps me awake
If my nose starts to block it blows like crazy to keep me breathing and dries out my mouth and throat
I then keep waking for water. The other night I got 2 hours sleep and was croaky all day.
I was diagnosed with stopping breathing for part of every minute
Possibly you might need a machine too but if so, shop around, there can be big differences in costs of machines.
Good luck, hope you sleep better.

 

[Jumping Jack Flash]

The dogs wake me up, barking at some nonsense up the street. After reading each 'the riot act', they generally settle down but not so for moi! ...... reading for up to an hour solves that little problem ....

 

[Royal Watcher]

I would never ever make a current or a returned defence person feel that they were disrepected in anyway at all. However the POWERS THAT BE have continually shown a deep disrespect for those who choose to do so. My grandfather was used as fodder in a war (WW1} that had nothing to do with Australia, most of his regiment were slaughtered, he survived after being gassed, buried in the trenches for 7 days, shot in the leg and then finally returned home. He developed PTSD and was treated with contempt by his community and the government, in and out of hospital, was not given a pension for years. He did marry and had five kids and for long time they were more or less homeless, it had a tremendously bad effect on his wife and children, he could be O.K for 6 months and then go down again. I have friends and now neighbours who are victims of various wars mainly Vietnam, same deal, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. My next door neighbour is on so much medication he is rarely seen outdoors and so bombed out when you do see him. Also my father was in the services the Royal Australian Navy (Korean War) and although not physically damaged was away from us on and off for years and had a terrible effect on us his children and his wife. This is my reason for being a pacifist, I have personally experienced the damage caused by war, my view is that if people are not prepared to particpate in wars then there would be no fodder to destroy.

I am sorry for ur grandfather, same war as mine & yes, Gallipoli was a travesty of another country’s making, but it happened & my grandfather wrote 3 diaries while there & reading them makes you realise what they went through! He was injured & put on hospital ship to Malta & from there to UK & had a stay then back into the fray!
Upon his return to Australia, he took advantage of land that was allotted to returned soldiers & he lived in Flinders Ranges in SA then eventually bought the Ostrich Farm near Pt Augusta & then built up a property called Myall Creek Station & then moved to live on another property up the coast from Pt Lincoln, where he raised merino sheep. He always suffered from TB that he got from being gassed in that war & had to go to Adelaide once a year for a check up at the Repat Hospital for returned veterans! He suffered too from that war but had a good life & died in his seventies from a heart attack after a days work on his beloved sheep station!
He had great respect for any veteran & quite a few were recipients of his financial help which he gave quietly whenever, wherever he found a need!
If only man would live in peace, we wouldn’t need to kill each other for power & greed!

 

[Sherril54]

I am sorry for ur grandfather, same war as mine & yes, Gallipoli was a travesty of another country’s making, but it happened & my grandfather wrote 3 diaries while there & reading them makes you realise what they went through! He was injured & put on hospital ship to Malta & from there to UK & had a stay then back into the fray!
Upon his return to Australia, he took advantage of land that was allotted to returned soldiers & he lived in Flinders Ranges in SA then eventually bought the Ostrich Farm near Pt Augusta & then built up a property called Myall Creek Station & then moved to live on another property up the coast from Pt Lincoln, where he raised merino sheep. He always suffered from TB that he got from being gassed in that war & had to go to Adelaide once a year for a check up at the Repat Hospital for returned veterans! He suffered too from that war but had a good life & died in his seventies from a heart attack after a days work on his beloved sheep station!
He had great respect for any veteran & quite a few were recipients of his financial help which he gave quietly whenever, wherever he found a need!
If only man would live in peace, we wouldn’t need to kill each other for power & greed!

Thank you Royal Watcher, I`m so pleased for your Grandfather`s progress, but as I was writing my piece, I could feel the anxiety building up again. My Grandfather was a true gentleman and although I was only 8 yrs old when he passed I loved him, can you imagine what it`s like for others who have faced and are facing this same experience as it`s still going on to-day. Etched in my mind is a comment made by Tony Abbott when visiting Australian troups in Afghanistan. "SHIT HAPPENS". And that about as good as it gets! I`ll never forget that either.

 

[Royal Watcher]

Thank you Royal Watcher, I`m so pleased for your Grandfather`s progress, but as I was writing my piece, I could feel the anxiety building up again. My Grandfather was a true gentleman and although I was only 8 yrs old when he passed I loved him, can you imagine what it`s like for others who have faced and are facing this same experience as it`s still going on to-day. Etched in my mind is a comment made by Tony Abbott when visiting Australian troups in Afghanistan. "SHIT HAPPENS". And that about as good as it gets! I`ll never forget that either.

I am sorry this has this effect on you!
You have every right to be proud of your grandfather as I am of mine & my son for their defence of good against evil!
No institution is perfect & certainly none of ours, they are run by flawed people - humans!
We do the best we can with what we have & hopefully our policy makers do a much better job of not just honouring our fallen & our veterans in a public celebration, but putting their money where their mouths are & making our veterans now & in the future number one priority! We have a long way to go to looking after our veterans & their families in the manner they deserve!
LEST WE FORGET I know what it’s like as the mother of a soldier to have the anxiety that’s for sure! All I wanted was for him to come back safe to those who loved him & I am so blessed that he did! One of my sons was living in London when the bombs were put on trains etc in terrorist attacks, his train he used daily was the first to get bombed & I did not know if he was dead or alive until he could ring me at 3am here to say he was okay! I know what anxiety for your loved ones is & if I didn’t have my faith, I would be a mess!
You have my empathy!