[wildroseforever]

Thanks for jumping in Wildroseforever. I acknowledged the political statement and replied to Joydie…yeah? I feel you want to jump down my throat, regardless?
Yes, about 18% is Indigenous-specific, but the remaining 82% goes to general services—schools, hospitals, housing, policing - that Indigenous Australians also benefit from. So the idea of a $35 billion slush fund is still false.
First Nations = hundreds of societies with laws, languages, governance long before Europeans arrived. Not a “nation-state” in a European sense.
Terminology matters: “First Nations” emphasises sovereignty; “First People” is also used.
Surviving colonial systems doesn’t rewrite the history of systemic harm.

Do you consider a family or a couple of families is a nation?

 

[Knell]

Do you consider a family or a couple of families is a nation?

Hmm...I’m really not sure what you mean by that, but for the sake of benefit of the doubt…First Nations are centuries-old societies with their own laws and governance - calling them nations recognises their sovereignty, not the size of their families—and funding supports communities historically harmed, while general services benefit all Australians.

 

[wildroseforever]

Hmm...I’m really not sure what you mean by that, but for the sake of benefit of the doubt…First Nations are centuries-old societies with their own laws and governance - calling them nations recognises their sovereignty, not the size of their families—and funding supports communities historically harmed, while general services benefit all Australians.

Its an easy question - do you consider a family or a couple of families a nation?

 

[Knell]

Its an easy question - do you consider a family or a couple of families a nation?

So you jump in - to say nothing of substance - you are then reduced to focusing on wordplay with one word? I will take that as you conceding the substance of the rest.

 

[Isis]

I am a 'baby boomer', and as far as I can remember this was the only 'title' used to cover a particular group of persons. I grew up at a great time in this Country, we manufactured and exported a great deal of things to many parts of the world. Jobs were available to anyone who wanted to work and that included those persons who arrived from many parts of the world after the devastation caused by the War. The music was great along with the relaxing style of living outdoors and enjoying the beaches and country areas. Now, all I see is this Country turning to 'crap' and these are some of the reasons ie: inept Governments filled with people who don't have any qualifications to run anything, busy lining their pockets for little effort and setting themselves up for some senior position in a large company, or overseas posting when they retire. During their time in office they managed to sell off our businesses, dismantle them to such a level that they have to close, move off shore or import everything from overseas to keep their own pockets full. I did a Cadetship with AWA, North Ryde, that company was the biggest producer of electronics in the southern hemisphere and we manufactured and exported many unique items for the overseas market. Shortly after leaving, I returned to a re-union at the factory and most of the original factory had be converted to assembling fridges, washing machines and freezers, which were being imported from overseas. I found out that Whitlem had cancelled a lot of Gov. contracts with AWA and sent the contracts overseas, one guess where they went. As for migrants who came post war, they were the 'salt of the earth.' They brought with them a host of new flavours and styles of cooking and I thank them greatly for that. They were friendly, loved the life-style and the country and all it offered them. They worked hard and had the opportunity to flourish, without loosing their identity. Sure they created their distinctive areas to live however, they assimilated into our values and I am glad that they did this without protesting in the streets, throwing rocks, burning cars and vandalism. But, what is going on now... division, anger, hatred, racism, burning our flag, legislation that promotes division, Politicians pushing their own agender, mostly for minority groups, some of which brought their racial hatred of certain religions, a hatred of certain peoples, and lack of a common values that this Country has developed with. I know, there were injustices, mistakes made in those years of colonisation however, when Rudd made that apology on behalf of all Australians to the Indigenious populations, I agreed that was partly right however, I do not believe that all the
responsible persons for those mis-deeds spoke up ie: in those early years we were governed and under the control of England. They appointed our Governors, draughted our laws and appointed our Officials to run this Country. The second ruling body at that time was the Church who had a large say in how the local population was to be 'handled and administered.' So when Rudd gave his speech I don't remember seeing anyone representing the English Government, or from the Churches joining in to offer their apologies for what they had done.
I say let us not forget what has happened however, it would do us more good to move forward and not keep looking back. It is like an injury, if you keep picking at it, it will never heal.

As for now I will make the following comments based on my actual experiences having had my own business, serving in the Military and 39yrs as a Police Officer, 22yrs as a Detective working in various areas and Task Forces. I had interacted with people at many levels, Politicians, professional people, educators, white and blue collar workers and down to the lower levels that can only be described as 'rock spiders, deviates, oxygen thieves, crooks of all types and those awaiting burial'. We have appeared to have adopted this 'political correctness mantra' to the point where it has come back to bite us. Many countries overseas are dropping this as they are also going though this internal unrest, an increase of violent crime, poor Judicial outcomes and the break-down of morals and what we call here 'mateship.' Add to this some Politicians here think and worry, to the point of extreme, what other Countries will think of us if we don't appear a certain way. They are making decisions, mostly poor ones, that are not for the benefit for this Country and persons but on what other Countries or minority groups will say about us. Probably the biggest one is immigration. To put it bluntly, we are allowing persons into this Country who are criminals and are here for one reason only, to partake in criminal activities to make money for themselves no matter who they hurt. Weak laws allow this and any legislation the Gov. enacts is so full of loop-holes it is worthless. If a person arrives here illegally or uses a false/misleading document to gain entry should be held in custody and returned to his point of origin immediately. I am tired of seeing persons who have come here, obtained their citizenship and then belittled this Country or embark down the crime pathway should have their citizenship taken away and sent back to their country of origin. No appeals, no free legal aid (paid for by us), and any assets as a result of criminal activity should be confiscated. We hardly ever hear of this happening other than the 'cash or items' found here being held, what about the money that has been sent overseas.(Enabled by the Banks not being held to account).
Well I have had my say, sorry about the length however, I love this Country and the good people in it, I just want a Gov. that has the guts to keep this Country great and moving forward. I did my best to remove some of these criminals out however, only to be let down by the Judiciary with weak sentencing. I wish I was still there.
Have a great day everyone, smile and have a laugh, it helps.

One of the best posts I have seen. Thankyou covered everything. Sadly the people who need to listed arnt.
So sad for the police particularly with young offenders . It seems that hey have a revolving door, in charged out bail.

 

[Milica]

I am a 'baby boomer', and as far as I can remember this was the only 'title' used to cover a particular group of persons. I grew up at a great time in this Country, we manufactured and exported a great deal of things to many parts of the world. Jobs were available to anyone who wanted to work and that included those persons who arrived from many parts of the world after the devastation caused by the War. The music was great along with the relaxing style of living outdoors and enjoying the beaches and country areas. Now, all I see is this Country turning to 'crap' and these are some of the reasons ie: inept Governments filled with people who don't have any qualifications to run anything, busy lining their pockets for little effort and setting themselves up for some senior position in a large company, or overseas posting when they retire. During their time in office they managed to sell off our businesses, dismantle them to such a level that they have to close, move off shore or import everything from overseas to keep their own pockets full. I did a Cadetship with AWA, North Ryde, that company was the biggest producer of electronics in the southern hemisphere and we manufactured and exported many unique items for the overseas market. Shortly after leaving, I returned to a re-union at the factory and most of the original factory had be converted to assembling fridges, washing machines and freezers, which were being imported from overseas. I found out that Whitlem had cancelled a lot of Gov. contracts with AWA and sent the contracts overseas, one guess where they went. As for migrants who came post war, they were the 'salt of the earth.' They brought with them a host of new flavours and styles of cooking and I thank them greatly for that. They were friendly, loved the life-style and the country and all it offered them. They worked hard and had the opportunity to flourish, without loosing their identity. Sure they created their distinctive areas to live however, they assimilated into our values and I am glad that they did this without protesting in the streets, throwing rocks, burning cars and vandalism. But, what is going on now... division, anger, hatred, racism, burning our flag, legislation that promotes division, Politicians pushing their own agender, mostly for minority groups, some of which brought their racial hatred of certain religions, a hatred of certain peoples, and lack of a common values that this Country has developed with. I know, there were injustices, mistakes made in those years of colonisation however, when Rudd made that apology on behalf of all Australians to the Indigenious populations, I agreed that was partly right however, I do not believe that all the
responsible persons for those mis-deeds spoke up ie: in those early years we were governed and under the control of England. They appointed our Governors, draughted our laws and appointed our Officials to run this Country. The second ruling body at that time was the Church who had a large say in how the local population was to be 'handled and administered.' So when Rudd gave his speech I don't remember seeing anyone representing the English Government, or from the Churches joining in to offer their apologies for what they had done.
I say let us not forget what has happened however, it would do us more good to move forward and not keep looking back. It is like an injury, if you keep picking at it, it will never heal.

As for now I will make the following comments based on my actual experiences having had my own business, serving in the Military and 39yrs as a Police Officer, 22yrs as a Detective working in various areas and Task Forces. I had interacted with people at many levels, Politicians, professional people, educators, white and blue collar workers and down to the lower levels that can only be described as 'rock spiders, deviates, oxygen thieves, crooks of all types and those awaiting burial'. We have appeared to have adopted this 'political correctness mantra' to the point where it has come back to bite us. Many countries overseas are dropping this as they are also going though this internal unrest, an increase of violent crime, poor Judicial outcomes and the break-down of morals and what we call here 'mateship.' Add to this some Politicians here think and worry, to the point of extreme, what other Countries will think of us if we don't appear a certain way. They are making decisions, mostly poor ones, that are not for the benefit for this Country and persons but on what other Countries or minority groups will say about us. Probably the biggest one is immigration. To put it bluntly, we are allowing persons into this Country who are criminals and are here for one reason only, to partake in criminal activities to make money for themselves no matter who they hurt. Weak laws allow this and any legislation the Gov. enacts is so full of loop-holes it is worthless. If a person arrives here illegally or uses a false/misleading document to gain entry should be held in custody and returned to his point of origin immediately. I am tired of seeing persons who have come here, obtained their citizenship and then belittled this Country or embark down the crime pathway should have their citizenship taken away and sent back to their country of origin. No appeals, no free legal aid (paid for by us), and any assets as a result of criminal activity should be confiscated. We hardly ever hear of this happening other than the 'cash or items' found here being held, what about the money that has been sent overseas.(Enabled by the Banks not being held to account).
Well I have had my say, sorry about the length however, I love this Country and the good people in it, I just want a Gov. that has the guts to keep this Country great and moving forward. I did my best to remove some of these criminals out however, only to be let down by the Judiciary with weak sentencing. I wish I was still there.
Have a great day everyone, smile and have a laugh, it helps.

very well stated!

 

[wildroseforever]

So you jump in - to say nothing of substance - you are then reduced to focusing on wordplay with one word? I will take that as you conceding the substance of the rest.

Are u a politician? you certainly sound like one. And u still havent answered the question.

 

[Yeoey]

The welcome to country should be stopped completely! While I in no way, shape or form condone what happened all those years ago, Things have got to change. The vote was cast and came up with a no, that should have been the end of it all. They receive so much more than the average Aussie, most of whom work hard to make a life for themselves. Throwing money at them does not help to stop the rape of women and children in their communities. Education should be first and foremost, giving them life skills so they too can make a decent life for themselves. There are many countries that have been overtaken throughout the years and some several times. Luckily for Australia it was settled, bringing with them laws, technology and a foundation for colonies and the ability to lead a good, albeit, hard life. The government is making us racist against them.The Department of Health, Disability and aging says: People under the age of 65 years can only access Australian Government-funded age-care services if they have care needs and are an Aboriginal or Torres Straight Islander person fifty years or older. This just one thing that is given due to race. It's time we all stood together and accept what has happened in the past and celebrate as a country what a truly great nation we are.

 

[Milica]

The welcome to country should be stopped completely! While I in no way, shape or form condone what happened all those years ago, Things have got to change. The vote was cast and came up with a no, that should have been the end of it all. They receive so much more than the average Aussie, most of whom work hard to make a life for themselves. Throwing money at them does not help to stop the rape of women and children in their communities. Education should be first and foremost, giving them life skills so they too can make a decent life for themselves. There are many countries that have been overtaken throughout the years and some several times. Luckily for Australia it was settled, bringing with them laws, technology and a foundation for colonies and the ability to lead a good, albeit, hard life. The government is making us racist against them.The Department of Health, Disability and aging says: People under the age of 65 years can only access Australian Government-funded age-care services if they have care needs and are an Aboriginal or Torres Straight Islander person fifty years or older. This just one thing that is given due to race. It's time we all stood together and accept what has happened in the past and celebrate as a country what a truly great nation we are.

With all due respect - i have always felt, for all humans that Housing and Health come First, along with Food. Education is not going to put a roof over pples heads that are homeless or in crises. The impact of not having housing than leads to so many health issues - costing the Gov't more i am sure than they would like - Common Sense really, Affordable housing for All, a much Healthier Society for All, less cost to the Gov't! asking the Grassroots - and the pple that are suffering due to the above, and they might just then get it working! this is not directed @ your personal comments.