Phone scam robs family of $32,000

A hardworking mother from Perth named Denise (name changed for privacy) is facing a difficult situation. She and her family lost their life savings of $32,000 in just a few hours due to a sophisticated phone scam.

What happened?

It all began when Denise (name changed for privacy) received a phone call from an unknown caller on the afternoon of Monday, November 6, informing her about an alleged fraudulent transaction on her husband's account in New Zealand.



Shortly after, her husband received a call and started getting numerous text messages with codes. He believed these messages were from Westpac, their bank, and provided the codes.

Unfortunately, this led to 22 unauthorised cash withdrawals in the United Kingdom, resulting in the loss of $32,000 for the couple.


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A family is now struggling to pay bills after being fleeced out of $32,000 in hours. Credit: Shutterstock.



When asked about the incident, Denise explained: 'They were able to give [my husband] his date of birth and all of his details, sort of establishing their credibility and gaining his trust.'

She even contacted Westpac herself to verify the authenticity of the situation.

'The woman I spoke to said I can see your accounts have been frozen, so yes, it all looks above board,' she recalled.

At one point, the scammers accidentally left a voicemail while she was on hold with Westpac.



Denise expressed her dissatisfaction with Westpac's response, as they informed her that it would take 45 business days to investigate.

She also found the bank manager's 'sarcastic' attitude unhelpful and felt frustrated. 'Look, it takes as long as it takes,' they told her.

To make matters worse for the mum, one staff member informed her that it was one of the worst scams she had encountered during her 16 years of experience.

'You need to give a little; you can't be this cold,' Denise told Westpac.

'You're dealing with human beings. You're dealing with children; you're dealing with a family. I explained to the kids that your money is safer in a bank than in a piggy bank at home.'

The mum went on to say, 'Every cent of that is now gone…'



Owen Kelly from Consumer Protection Western Australia advised consumers to 'practise the pause' in such situations.

'Stop, take a deep breath and think about what's happening here and what you're being asked to do.'

In response to the incident, Westpac stated that they are actively investigating the matter and prioritising the security of their customers' data. They have invested significantly in preventing scams, claiming they have successfully stopped over 60 per cent of such cases.

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In 2022, Australians suffered a significant increase in scam losses, reaching $3.1 billion, an 80 per cent jump from the previous year.

Surprisingly, despite a 16.5 per cent drop in reports to Scamwatch, the losses reached this unprecedented level. This information comes from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's Targeting Scams report.



The main types of scams causing these substantial losses were investment scams, accounting for a massive $1.5 billion, followed by remote-access scams at $229 million and payment-redirection scams at $224 million.

One interesting thing to note is that scammers often use text messages to trick people. Around 79,835 Australians reported getting scam SMS messages, which was an 18.8% increase from the previous year.

Key Takeaways

  • A Perth family lost $32,000 in a sophisticated phone scam involving fake bank calls and messages.
  • There were 22 cash withdrawals made in the UK after the family provided codes, believing they were communicating with Westpac.
  • Denise, mother of three, criticised Westpac's response to the scam, stating it wasn't good enough and that they were told it would take 45 business days for the bank to investigate the matter.
  • Westpac is investigating the scam, stating that it takes customers' data protection very seriously and actively invests in scam prevention.



Members, it's crucial that we remain alert in both online and offline settings. We must stay proactive and regularly check our finances to safeguard our money from scammers and fraud.

Do you have any extra tips or advice to share? Have you encountered messages like the one mentioned earlier? Please share your thoughts in the comments section below!
 
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I ignore all messages .

The banks and government needs to fix this problem and protect us from scammers.

Why did the bank tell her it was legitimate when she called and told her the account is frozen?
Did the scamners freeze the account ?

What I want to know is how safe are accounts from actual bank staff ? Can they scam us, can dishonest staff sell our information ?
 
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Everybody who gets scammed seems to blame the Banks or the Government. When are people going to realise that the banks and government can't stop these scammers and they are not responsible for idiot people. The majority of them are off shore and it's damn near impossible to trace them. Once again, people's stupidity causes the scammers to win, it's not the banks or the government. If people would just stop responding to these scammers, then the scammers would get nowhere.
 
Everybody who gets scammed seems to blame the Banks or the Government. When are people going to realise that the banks and government can't stop these scammers and they are not responsible for idiot people. The majority of them are off shore and it's damn near impossible to trace them. Once again, people's stupidity causes the scammers to win, it's not the banks or the government. If people would just stop responding to these scammers, then the scammers would get nowhere.
I agree with what you have said, but I'm thinking panick sets in especially when the scammer knows your name, birthday ect. She did the right thing calling her bank to check, but Then to be told by your bank , yes it looks legitimate as your account is frozen . The bank should have looked into this further at that time, they should have been able to see who froze it.

She did the right thing calling her bank but the bank gave her the wrong response
 
I ignore all messages .

The banks and government needs to fix this problem and protect us from scamners.

Why did the bank tell her it was legitimate when she called and told her the account is frozen?
Did the scamners freeze the account ?

What I want to know is how safe are accounts from actual bank staff ? Can they scam us, can dishonest staff sell our information ?
Good question. Just because a person works in a bank doesn't make them honest.
We had a situation many years ago with a tenant who completely trashed our home, owed thousands in back rent. Court case dragged on for 18 months, long story. She.worked for our bank.
The bailiff seized her expensive car to cover some of our losses, only to discover that it wasn't clear of debt, although the debt was not registered on the PPSR (Personal Property Security Register)
The bank demanded return of the car, until I told them I would go on Current Affair and advise everybody that they do not register their own staff's debts. They very quickly came to the party and reached agreement with us.
Just goes to show that you can't even trust the bank, let alone their staff.
Some poor innocent person could have bought that car in good faith, she could have disappeared with the money and then the bank come along and repossess the car, leaving the purchasers out of pocket and a lengthy and costly court case, all due to the banks negligence.
 
I agree with what you have said, but I'm thinking panick sets in especially when the scammer knows your name, birthday ect. She did the right thing calling her bank to check, but Then to be told by your bank , yes it looks legitimate as your account is frozen . The bank should have looked into this further at that time, they should have been able to see who froze it.

She did the right thing calling her bank but the bank gave her the wrong response
Personally I would have contacted the bank at the first contact from the scammers. I have gone into the bank when I received something out of the ordinary and they were very helpful. I’m thinking maybe she initially believed the scammer at first and only checked with the bank after the first part of their scam was underway. Ive had calls where they know personal details too but I’ve checked before going along with them. Now if I don’t know the number and they haven’t left a message I just ignore the calls.
 
Personally I would have contacted the bank at the first contact from the scammers. I have gone into the bank when I received something out of the ordinary and they were very helpful. I’m thinking maybe she initially believed the scammer at first and only checked with the bank after the first part of their scam was underway. Ive had calls where they know personal details too but I’ve checked before going along with them. Now if I don’t know the number and they haven’t left a message I just ignore the calls.
As do I
 
I agree with what you have said, but I'm thinking panick sets in especially when the scammer knows your name, birthday ect. She did the right thing calling her bank to check, but Then to be told by your bank , yes it looks legitimate as your account is frozen . The bank should have looked into this further at that time, they should have been able to see who froze it.

She did the right thing calling her bank but the bank gave her the wrong response
How about just don't answer the damn phone, ah, I see Optus took care of that problem, the prayers over there at Qantas have been answered.
 
I ignore all messages .

The banks and government needs to fix this problem and protect us from scammers.

Why did the bank tell her it was legitimate when she called and told her the account is frozen?
Did the scamners freeze the account ?

What I want to know is how safe are accounts from actual bank staff ? Can they scam us, can dishonest staff sell our information ?
because 'Denise' has had time to think her story. Anyone that has time to think or rehash their story after the event will always change the simple facts of their story to make it sounds like they did nothing wrong. Why do you think all phone contacts are recorded, so they can play it back when you put out your revised version of the event. How many times do we see on bank webpages, letter and form of contact from your bank, they DON'T send text messages with any links or requests via text.
 
A hardworking mother from Perth named Denise (name changed for privacy) is facing a difficult situation. She and her family lost their life savings of $32,000 in just a few hours due to a sophisticated phone scam.

What happened?

It all began when Denise (name changed for privacy) received a phone call from an unknown caller on the afternoon of Monday, November 6, informing her about an alleged fraudulent transaction on her husband's account in New Zealand.



Shortly after, her husband received a call and started getting numerous text messages with codes. He believed these messages were from Westpac, their bank, and provided the codes.

Unfortunately, this led to 22 unauthorised cash withdrawals in the United Kingdom, resulting in the loss of $32,000 for the couple.


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A family is now struggling to pay bills after being fleeced out of $32,000 in hours. Credit: Shutterstock.



When asked about the incident, Denise explained: 'They were able to give [my husband] his date of birth and all of his details, sort of establishing their credibility and gaining his trust.'

She even contacted Westpac herself to verify the authenticity of the situation.

'The woman I spoke to said I can see your accounts have been frozen, so yes, it all looks above board,' she recalled.

At one point, the scammers accidentally left a voicemail while she was on hold with Westpac.



Denise expressed her dissatisfaction with Westpac's response, as they informed her that it would take 45 business days to investigate.

She also found the bank manager's 'sarcastic' attitude unhelpful and felt frustrated. 'Look, it takes as long as it takes,' they told her.

To make matters worse for the mum, one staff member informed her that it was one of the worst scams she had encountered during her 16 years of experience.

'You need to give a little; you can't be this cold,' Denise told Westpac.

'You're dealing with human beings. You're dealing with children; you're dealing with a family. I explained to the kids that your money is safer in a bank than in a piggy bank at home.'

The mum went on to say, 'Every cent of that is now gone…'



Owen Kelly from Consumer Protection Western Australia advised consumers to 'practise the pause' in such situations.

'Stop, take a deep breath and think about what's happening here and what you're being asked to do.'

In response to the incident, Westpac stated that they are actively investigating the matter and prioritising the security of their customers' data. They have invested significantly in preventing scams, claiming they have successfully stopped over 60 per cent of such cases.



In 2022, Australians suffered a significant increase in scam losses, reaching $3.1 billion, an 80 per cent jump from the previous year.

Surprisingly, despite a 16.5 per cent drop in reports to Scamwatch, the losses reached this unprecedented level. This information comes from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's Targeting Scams report.



The main types of scams causing these substantial losses were investment scams, accounting for a massive $1.5 billion, followed by remote-access scams at $229 million and payment-redirection scams at $224 million.

One interesting thing to note is that scammers often use text messages to trick people. Around 79,835 Australians reported getting scam SMS messages, which was an 18.8% increase from the previous year.

Key Takeaways

  • A Perth family lost $32,000 in a sophisticated phone scam involving fake bank calls and messages.
  • There were 22 cash withdrawals made in the UK after the family provided codes, believing they were communicating with Westpac.
  • Denise, mother of three, criticised Westpac's response to the scam, stating it wasn't good enough and that they were told it would take 45 business days for the bank to investigate the matter.
  • Westpac is investigating the scam, stating that it takes customers' data protection very seriously and actively invests in scam prevention.



Members, it's crucial that we remain alert in both online and offline settings. We must stay proactive and regularly check our finances to safeguard our money from scammers and fraud.

Do you have any extra tips or advice to share? Have you encountered messages like the one mentioned earlier? Please share your thoughts in the comments section below!
Trust no-one! Do not believe any phone calls or text messages from people you don't know. I hung up on three doubtful calls two days ago and many more previously.
 
because 'Denise' has had time to think her story. Anyone that has time to think or rehash their story after the event will always change the simple facts of their story to make it sounds like they did nothing wrong. Why do you think all phone contacts are recorded, so they can play it back when you put out your revised version of the event. How many times do we see on bank webpages, letter and form of contact from your bank, they DON'T send text messages with any links or requests via text.
It's not always like that !!!
 
I like to scam the scammer. If you get called by an unknown called, treat it as a scam. I love to keep them on the phone asking questions and friendly chat for as long as I can. After an hour or so of making them think I'm interested, I say thanks for all your help and say I'm not interested in scams and hang up. Great fun.
NEVER, NEVER answer questions with "YES"
 
A hardworking mother from Perth named Denise (name changed for privacy) is facing a difficult situation. She and her family lost their life savings of $32,000 in just a few hours due to a sophisticated phone scam.

What happened?

It all began when Denise (name changed for privacy) received a phone call from an unknown caller on the afternoon of Monday, November 6, informing her about an alleged fraudulent transaction on her husband's account in New Zealand.



Shortly after, her husband received a call and started getting numerous text messages with codes. He believed these messages were from Westpac, their bank, and provided the codes.

Unfortunately, this led to 22 unauthorised cash withdrawals in the United Kingdom, resulting in the loss of $32,000 for the couple.


View attachment 34267
A family is now struggling to pay bills after being fleeced out of $32,000 in hours. Credit: Shutterstock.



When asked about the incident, Denise explained: 'They were able to give [my husband] his date of birth and all of his details, sort of establishing their credibility and gaining his trust.'

She even contacted Westpac herself to verify the authenticity of the situation.

'The woman I spoke to said I can see your accounts have been frozen, so yes, it all looks above board,' she recalled.

At one point, the scammers accidentally left a voicemail while she was on hold with Westpac.



Denise expressed her dissatisfaction with Westpac's response, as they informed her that it would take 45 business days to investigate.

She also found the bank manager's 'sarcastic' attitude unhelpful and felt frustrated. 'Look, it takes as long as it takes,' they told her.

To make matters worse for the mum, one staff member informed her that it was one of the worst scams she had encountered during her 16 years of experience.

'You need to give a little; you can't be this cold,' Denise told Westpac.

'You're dealing with human beings. You're dealing with children; you're dealing with a family. I explained to the kids that your money is safer in a bank than in a piggy bank at home.'

The mum went on to say, 'Every cent of that is now gone…'



Owen Kelly from Consumer Protection Western Australia advised consumers to 'practise the pause' in such situations.

'Stop, take a deep breath and think about what's happening here and what you're being asked to do.'

In response to the incident, Westpac stated that they are actively investigating the matter and prioritising the security of their customers' data. They have invested significantly in preventing scams, claiming they have successfully stopped over 60 per cent of such cases.



In 2022, Australians suffered a significant increase in scam losses, reaching $3.1 billion, an 80 per cent jump from the previous year.

Surprisingly, despite a 16.5 per cent drop in reports to Scamwatch, the losses reached this unprecedented level. This information comes from the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission's Targeting Scams report.



The main types of scams causing these substantial losses were investment scams, accounting for a massive $1.5 billion, followed by remote-access scams at $229 million and payment-redirection scams at $224 million.

One interesting thing to note is that scammers often use text messages to trick people. Around 79,835 Australians reported getting scam SMS messages, which was an 18.8% increase from the previous year.

Key Takeaways

  • A Perth family lost $32,000 in a sophisticated phone scam involving fake bank calls and messages.
  • There were 22 cash withdrawals made in the UK after the family provided codes, believing they were communicating with Westpac.
  • Denise, mother of three, criticised Westpac's response to the scam, stating it wasn't good enough and that they were told it would take 45 business days for the bank to investigate the matter.
  • Westpac is investigating the scam, stating that it takes customers' data protection very seriously and actively invests in scam prevention.



Members, it's crucial that we remain alert in both online and offline settings. We must stay proactive and regularly check our finances to safeguard our money from scammers and fraud.

Do you have any extra tips or advice to share? Have you encountered messages like the one mentioned earlier? Please share your thoughts in the comments section below!
On occasion I have received phone calls stating that some unknown person has taken cash out of my account so I always hang up and check with my bank to make sure this has not happened. Never take the word of someone on the phone that they are actually speaking from your bank. Always hand up and check with your bank first before taking any further action.
 
Everybody who gets scammed seems to blame the Banks or the Government. When are people going to realise that the banks and government can't stop these scammers and they are not responsible for idiot people. The majority of them are off shore and it's damn near impossible to trace them. Once again, people's stupidity causes the scammers to win, it's not the banks or the government. If people would just stop responding to these scammers, then the scammers would get nowhere.
well done.
 
I was scammed in my Westpac account! I was very upset! However it has been resolved now! Yet the person who contacted me was not that sympathetic! I am an aged pensioner and losing $600 is a lot!
 
Personally I would have contacted the bank at the first contact from the scammers. I have gone into the bank when I received something out of the ordinary and they were very helpful. I’m thinking maybe she initially believed the scammer at first and only checked with the bank after the first part of their scam was underway. Ive had calls where they know personal details too but I’ve checked before going along with them. Now if I don’t know the number and they haven’t left a message I just ignore the calls.
I agree, the story does not sound right. I never answer numbers I do not recognise. If it is important, they will identify themselves and leave a message. How many times do people have to be told not to give banking details over the phone to anyone.
 

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