Kochie and Nat confront the NSW top cop over the controversial tasering incident caught on bodycam!

Here at the Seniors Discount Club, we aim to not only pass on amazing discounts and deals to our members, but we also want to keep you informed on current events and news relevant to our community.

And recently, the tasering of a 95-year-old grandmother with dementia by a police officer in a New South Wales nursing home has grabbed not only national headlines but has also drawn international attention.

Let’s dive into the growing controversy surrounding this shocking incident and what it might mean for the future of aged care and policing in Australia.



The incident occurred at Yallambee Lodge aged care facility in Cooma, where Clare Nowland, a frail mother of eight who was using a walking frame, was tasered by a police officer after allegedly approaching officers while holding a knife and failing to drop it.

Clare, who weighs only 43 kg, was critically injured during the incident and is now receiving end-of-life care in Cooma District Hospital.


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The incident was met with public outcry. Credit: Magda Ehlers/Pexels

This news was met with outrage online, which subsequently led to Sunrise hosts David Koch and Natalie Barr grilling NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb on the matter.

One aspect that has particularly drawn their disapproval was the commissioner’s refusal to watch the body-worn footage of the incident. Assistant Commissioner Peter Cotter agreed that this act was ‘confronting’.



‘I don’t really intend to. I’ve heard what’s in the body [cam], and I don’t see it necessary that I actually view it,’ she said previously.

But in response, Commissioner Webb maintained that she wanted to allow the detectives to conduct their investigation without her interference.

She stated, 'If at a point in time, I become a decision-maker about the employment of the officer or the investigation, then I will look at the evidence as a complete picture, not just one part of it.'


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According to the police commissioner, if she interferes with the investigation, it might compromise the case. Credit: Nermin Aliyeva/Pexels

Commissioner Webb added that any interference on her part might prejudice the outcome of the case, and she admitted that Mrs Nowland and her family ‘deserve better than that’.

‘It’s a shocking matter, and I’ve never seen anything like it. But I need to let the detectives and specialists do their job,’ she said before claiming that ‘the community has every right to know exactly what’s happened’.



While Commissioner Webb continues to receive daily briefings on the investigation, Kochie questioned her about the level of threat the 95-year-old grandmother could have been, considering she was on a walker and weighed merely 43 kg.

However, the commissioner refrained from providing further details, instead reiterating that the understanding of the events is still incomplete.

As the case unfolds, an investigation led by the Homicide Squad and the Professional Standards Committee of NSW Police, supervised by the independent Law Enforcement Conduct Commission (LECC), has been launched.

Commissioner Webb stated that detectives had collected witness testimonies and were now in the process of seeking expert opinion on the use of the weapon.



On Tuesday, it was confirmed that the officer involved, a 33-year-old senior constable with 12 years of service, has been suspended from duty with pay pending the outcome of the investigation.

Commissioner Webb revealed that the decision on whether he should be charged after the incident would come after an investigation had taken place.

In the meantime, this distressing incident has prompted advocates and members of the public to call for reforms in police training and healthcare.

Commissioner Webb herself admitted that the role of a police officer is becoming increasingly complex, and they're expected to be experts in dealing with a wide range of situations. Especially in cases where police need to be called to facilities that deal with dementia patients, for which they may not have adequate training.

‘The role of a police officer is growing wider and wider, and we’re expected to know everything about everything, and we’re not experts on everything,’ Commissioner Webb stated.



Nat then inquired about what a nursing home should do if a patient is brandishing a knife, to which the police commissioner said these cases were a ‘question of training’.

‘What training do they have to deal with those situations? Dealing with anyone with dementia is difficult ... it’s a last resort that they call the police,’ she explained.

This issue of inadequate training extends to nursing home staff as well, as highlighted by Dementia Support Australia's Steve Macfarlane. He called for more training for aged care workers, stating that staff should be able to de-escalate such situations themselves and not resort to calling the police.

‘Aged care staff really need to have the skills to de-escalate these sorts of situations themselves,’ he claimed.

As it currently stands, there is no mandatory training required for aged care workers in dealing with dementia patients in Australia.

You can watch a snippet of the interview below:



Key Takeaways
  • A 95-year-old grandmother with dementia was tasered by a police officer at Yallambee Lodge aged care facility in Cooma after allegedly failing to drop a steak knife.
  • NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb has been criticised for her refusal to watch the video of the incident, stating she is allowing detectives and specialists to do their job without her interfering in the investigation.
  • The police officer involved, a 33-year-old senior constable, has been suspended from duty with pay, and an investigation is being led by the homicide squad, the Professional Standards Committee of NSW Police, and the independent Law Enforcement Conduct Commission.
  • The incident has sparked calls for police training and healthcare reform and has raised questions about the training and weapons used by aged care workers. There is currently no mandatory training required for aged care workers on dealing with dementia patients.
We at Seniors Discount Club will continue to keep you updated on this story. Stay informed, and be sure to share your thoughts on these pressing issues with us in the comments below.

Do you think there needs to be more of an emphasis on training and education when dealing with people who are living with dementia? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!
 
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I think there are more than just the police officer who needs to take the blame.

A little old lady using a walking frame how hard is it to grab her abd get the knife of.

Why tasser her ?????

My daughter is first year nursing student and is currently doing work placement in a public hospital in the dementia ward and a 75 year old man attacked 2 nurses and they called security and helped hold him down while they sedated him.
My daughter said it was a little scary but no way would those nurses or security guy tasser him

The police officer shouldn't have tassered her and the staff if they were trained should have handled the situation without actually calling the police
 
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Here at the Seniors Discount Club, we aim to not only pass on amazing discounts and deals to our members, but we also want to keep you informed on current events and news relevant to our community.

And recently, the tasering of a 95-year-old grandmother with dementia by a police officer in a New South Wales nursing home has grabbed not only national headlines but has also drawn international attention.

Let’s dive into the growing controversy surrounding this shocking incident and what it might mean for the future of aged care and policing in Australia.



The incident occurred at Yallambee Lodge aged care facility in Cooma, where Clare Nowland, a frail mother of eight who was using a walking frame, was tasered by a police officer after allegedly approaching officers while holding a knife and failing to drop it.

Clare, who weighs only 43 kg, was critically injured during the incident and is now receiving end-of-life care in Cooma District Hospital.


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The incident was met with public outcry. Credit: Magda Ehlers/Pexels

This news was met with outrage online, which subsequently led to Sunrise hosts David Koch and Natalie Barr grilling NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb on the matter.

One aspect that has particularly drawn their disapproval was the commissioner’s refusal to watch the body-worn footage of the incident. Assistant Commissioner Peter Cotter agreed that this act was ‘confronting’.



‘I don’t really intend to. I’ve heard what’s in the body [cam], and I don’t see it necessary that I actually view it,’ she said previously.

But in response, Commissioner Webb maintained that she wanted to allow the detectives to conduct their investigation without her interference.

She stated, 'If at a point in time, I become a decision-maker about the employment of the officer or the investigation, then I will look at the evidence as a complete picture, not just one part of it.'


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According to the police commissioner, if she interferes with the investigation, it might compromise the case. Credit: Nermin Aliyeva/Pexels

Commissioner Webb added that any interference on her part might prejudice the outcome of the case, and she admitted that Mrs Nowland and her family ‘deserve better than that’.

‘It’s a shocking matter, and I’ve never seen anything like it. But I need to let the detectives and specialists do their job,’ she said before claiming that ‘the community has every right to know exactly what’s happened’.



While Commissioner Webb continues to receive daily briefings on the investigation, Kochie questioned her about the level of threat the 95-year-old grandmother could have been, considering she was on a walker and weighed merely 43 kg.

However, the commissioner refrained from providing further details, instead reiterating that the understanding of the events is still incomplete.

As the case unfolds, an investigation led by the Homicide Squad and the Professional Standards Committee of NSW Police, supervised by the independent Law Enforcement Conduct Commission (LECC), has been launched.

Commissioner Webb stated that detectives had collected witness testimonies and were now in the process of seeking expert opinion on the use of the weapon.



On Tuesday, it was confirmed that the officer involved, a 33-year-old senior constable with 12 years of service, has been suspended from duty with pay pending the outcome of the investigation.

Commissioner Webb revealed that the decision on whether he should be charged after the incident would come after an investigation had taken place.

In the meantime, this distressing incident has prompted advocates and members of the public to call for reforms in police training and healthcare.

Commissioner Webb herself admitted that the role of a police officer is becoming increasingly complex, and they're expected to be experts in dealing with a wide range of situations. Especially in cases where police need to be called to facilities that deal with dementia patients, for which they may not have adequate training.

‘The role of a police officer is growing wider and wider, and we’re expected to know everything about everything, and we’re not experts on everything,’ Commissioner Webb stated.



Nat then inquired about what a nursing home should do if a patient is brandishing a knife, to which the police commissioner said these cases were a ‘question of training’.

‘What training do they have to deal with those situations? Dealing with anyone with dementia is difficult ... it’s a last resort that they call the police,’ she explained.

This issue of inadequate training extends to nursing home staff as well, as highlighted by Dementia Support Australia's Steve Macfarlane. He called for more training for aged care workers, stating that staff should be able to de-escalate such situations themselves and not resort to calling the police.

‘Aged care staff really need to have the skills to de-escalate these sorts of situations themselves,’ he claimed.

As it currently stands, there is no mandatory training required for aged care workers in dealing with dementia patients in Australia.

You can watch a snippet of the interview below:



Key Takeaways

  • A 95-year-old grandmother with dementia was tasered by a police officer at Yallambee Lodge aged care facility in Cooma after allegedly failing to drop a steak knife.
  • NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb has been criticised for her refusal to watch the video of the incident, stating she is allowing detectives and specialists to do their job without her interfering in the investigation.
  • The police officer involved, a 33-year-old senior constable, has been suspended from duty with pay, and an investigation is being led by the homicide squad, the Professional Standards Committee of NSW Police, and the independent Law Enforcement Conduct Commission.
  • The incident has sparked calls for police training and healthcare reform and has raised questions about the training and weapons used by aged care workers. There is currently no mandatory training required for aged care workers on dealing with dementia patients.
We at Seniors Discount Club will continue to keep you updated on this story. Stay informed, and be sure to share your thoughts on these pressing issues with us in the comments below.

Do you think there needs to be more of an emphasis on training and education when dealing with people who are living with dementia? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!

The policeman needs to be sacked as well as the police commissioner...
 
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Why did they call the police? They could of just thrown a blanket over her and disoriented her. Too many people these days getting paid and not doing their job properly
 
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This is an absolutely appalling situation and highlights the need for properly trained staff, both in nursing homes and the police force. This police force will now become the laughingstock of Australia - how could a fully grown man not handle or overpower a 95 year old 43 kg woman in a walker - unbelieveable! If they had Crisis Teams in NSW as they do in Victoria this would never have happened. These people are fully trained to deal with any emergency or crisis in a swift and efficient manner. The fact the NSW Police Commissioner will not view the footage, and gives a very lame excuse for not doing so, speaks volumes indicating a lack of backbone and shows very poor leadership. Absolutely disgusting, and the offending officer should be dealt with swiftly.
What possible excuse could he come up with that is believeable?
 
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Here at the Seniors Discount Club, we aim to not only pass on amazing discounts and deals to our members, but we also want to keep you informed on current events and news relevant to our community.

And recently, the tasering of a 95-year-old grandmother with dementia by a police officer in a New South Wales nursing home has grabbed not only national headlines but has also drawn international attention.

Let’s dive into the growing controversy surrounding this shocking incident and what it might mean for the future of aged care and policing in Australia.



The incident occurred at Yallambee Lodge aged care facility in Cooma, where Clare Nowland, a frail mother of eight who was using a walking frame, was tasered by a police officer after allegedly approaching officers while holding a knife and failing to drop it.

Clare, who weighs only 43 kg, was critically injured during the incident and is now receiving end-of-life care in Cooma District Hospital.


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The incident was met with public outcry. Credit: Magda Ehlers/Pexels

This news was met with outrage online, which subsequently led to Sunrise hosts David Koch and Natalie Barr grilling NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb on the matter.

One aspect that has particularly drawn their disapproval was the commissioner’s refusal to watch the body-worn footage of the incident. Assistant Commissioner Peter Cotter agreed that this act was ‘confronting’.



‘I don’t really intend to. I’ve heard what’s in the body [cam], and I don’t see it necessary that I actually view it,’ she said previously.

But in response, Commissioner Webb maintained that she wanted to allow the detectives to conduct their investigation without her interference.

She stated, 'If at a point in time, I become a decision-maker about the employment of the officer or the investigation, then I will look at the evidence as a complete picture, not just one part of it.'


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According to the police commissioner, if she interferes with the investigation, it might compromise the case. Credit: Nermin Aliyeva/Pexels

Commissioner Webb added that any interference on her part might prejudice the outcome of the case, and she admitted that Mrs Nowland and her family ‘deserve better than that’.

‘It’s a shocking matter, and I’ve never seen anything like it. But I need to let the detectives and specialists do their job,’ she said before claiming that ‘the community has every right to know exactly what’s happened’.



While Commissioner Webb continues to receive daily briefings on the investigation, Kochie questioned her about the level of threat the 95-year-old grandmother could have been, considering she was on a walker and weighed merely 43 kg.

However, the commissioner refrained from providing further details, instead reiterating that the understanding of the events is still incomplete.

As the case unfolds, an investigation led by the Homicide Squad and the Professional Standards Committee of NSW Police, supervised by the independent Law Enforcement Conduct Commission (LECC), has been launched.

Commissioner Webb stated that detectives had collected witness testimonies and were now in the process of seeking expert opinion on the use of the weapon.



On Tuesday, it was confirmed that the officer involved, a 33-year-old senior constable with 12 years of service, has been suspended from duty with pay pending the outcome of the investigation.

Commissioner Webb revealed that the decision on whether he should be charged after the incident would come after an investigation had taken place.

In the meantime, this distressing incident has prompted advocates and members of the public to call for reforms in police training and healthcare.

Commissioner Webb herself admitted that the role of a police officer is becoming increasingly complex, and they're expected to be experts in dealing with a wide range of situations. Especially in cases where police need to be called to facilities that deal with dementia patients, for which they may not have adequate training.

‘The role of a police officer is growing wider and wider, and we’re expected to know everything about everything, and we’re not experts on everything,’ Commissioner Webb stated.



Nat then inquired about what a nursing home should do if a patient is brandishing a knife, to which the police commissioner said these cases were a ‘question of training’.

‘What training do they have to deal with those situations? Dealing with anyone with dementia is difficult ... it’s a last resort that they call the police,’ she explained.

This issue of inadequate training extends to nursing home staff as well, as highlighted by Dementia Support Australia's Steve Macfarlane. He called for more training for aged care workers, stating that staff should be able to de-escalate such situations themselves and not resort to calling the police.

‘Aged care staff really need to have the skills to de-escalate these sorts of situations themselves,’ he claimed.

As it currently stands, there is no mandatory training required for aged care workers in dealing with dementia patients in Australia.

You can watch a snippet of the interview below:



Key Takeaways

  • A 95-year-old grandmother with dementia was tasered by a police officer at Yallambee Lodge aged care facility in Cooma after allegedly failing to drop a steak knife.
  • NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb has been criticised for her refusal to watch the video of the incident, stating she is allowing detectives and specialists to do their job without her interfering in the investigation.
  • The police officer involved, a 33-year-old senior constable, has been suspended from duty with pay, and an investigation is being led by the homicide squad, the Professional Standards Committee of NSW Police, and the independent Law Enforcement Conduct Commission.
  • The incident has sparked calls for police training and healthcare reform and has raised questions about the training and weapons used by aged care workers. There is currently no mandatory training required for aged care workers on dealing with dementia patients.
We at Seniors Discount Club will continue to keep you updated on this story. Stay informed, and be sure to share your thoughts on these pressing issues with us in the comments below.

Do you think there needs to be more of an emphasis on training and education when dealing with people who are living with dementia? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!

Pretty piss poor from the nursing home staff and the police involved too ,bloody disgusting from all involved
 
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This was a gutless act by a NSW Policeman, apparently a judge has warned him before of excess use of force, He is a danger to the community and needs to be sacked from the job and charged with serious assault which should include jail time. As for the NSW Police Commissioner I suppose if she doesnt want to look at the footage because she might actually see what some of heer officers do, then that goes to show where the cowardice and lack of leadership comes from (although I believe public opinion is forcing her to do what she doesnt want to do). I get that the Policeman is not guilty until proven by a court of law but there really has to be serious questions asked about his decision making and those who were with him that allowed him to act like he did, all concerned need to be held accountable).
 
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This is a medical situation -isn't it the job of a medical expert? Was she not in a medical facility? Police cannot administer drugs/sedatives. Why are our police expected to have such medical training along with all the other training they have to undertake. Soon we will have no-one willing to sign up to the police force. Frontline workers who put their lives on the line every day to protect the public, constantly being scrutinised and condemned by the public and their employers.
 
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A 95 yr old lady using a walker holding a knife is a threat to police. This copper that tased her is a real hero....NOT. I thought the police were better than that.
Well, I'm just saying a plumber should not be called for an electrical problem. Can't really blame the plumber if he did not know how to solve an electrical issue. Perhaps they could call on you next time?
 
Here at the Seniors Discount Club, we aim to not only pass on amazing discounts and deals to our members, but we also want to keep you informed on current events and news relevant to our community.

And recently, the tasering of a 95-year-old grandmother with dementia by a police officer in a New South Wales nursing home has grabbed not only national headlines but has also drawn international attention.

Let’s dive into the growing controversy surrounding this shocking incident and what it might mean for the future of aged care and policing in Australia.



The incident occurred at Yallambee Lodge aged care facility in Cooma, where Clare Nowland, a frail mother of eight who was using a walking frame, was tasered by a police officer after allegedly approaching officers while holding a knife and failing to drop it.

Clare, who weighs only 43 kg, was critically injured during the incident and is now receiving end-of-life care in Cooma District Hospital.


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The incident was met with public outcry. Credit: Magda Ehlers/Pexels

This news was met with outrage online, which subsequently led to Sunrise hosts David Koch and Natalie Barr grilling NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb on the matter.

One aspect that has particularly drawn their disapproval was the commissioner’s refusal to watch the body-worn footage of the incident. Assistant Commissioner Peter Cotter agreed that this act was ‘confronting’.



‘I don’t really intend to. I’ve heard what’s in the body [cam], and I don’t see it necessary that I actually view it,’ she said previously.

But in response, Commissioner Webb maintained that she wanted to allow the detectives to conduct their investigation without her interference.

She stated, 'If at a point in time, I become a decision-maker about the employment of the officer or the investigation, then I will look at the evidence as a complete picture, not just one part of it.'


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According to the police commissioner, if she interferes with the investigation, it might compromise the case. Credit: Nermin Aliyeva/Pexels

Commissioner Webb added that any interference on her part might prejudice the outcome of the case, and she admitted that Mrs Nowland and her family ‘deserve better than that’.

‘It’s a shocking matter, and I’ve never seen anything like it. But I need to let the detectives and specialists do their job,’ she said before claiming that ‘the community has every right to know exactly what’s happened’.



While Commissioner Webb continues to receive daily briefings on the investigation, Kochie questioned her about the level of threat the 95-year-old grandmother could have been, considering she was on a walker and weighed merely 43 kg.

However, the commissioner refrained from providing further details, instead reiterating that the understanding of the events is still incomplete.

As the case unfolds, an investigation led by the Homicide Squad and the Professional Standards Committee of NSW Police, supervised by the independent Law Enforcement Conduct Commission (LECC), has been launched.

Commissioner Webb stated that detectives had collected witness testimonies and were now in the process of seeking expert opinion on the use of the weapon.



On Tuesday, it was confirmed that the officer involved, a 33-year-old senior constable with 12 years of service, has been suspended from duty with pay pending the outcome of the investigation.

Commissioner Webb revealed that the decision on whether he should be charged after the incident would come after an investigation had taken place.

In the meantime, this distressing incident has prompted advocates and members of the public to call for reforms in police training and healthcare.

Commissioner Webb herself admitted that the role of a police officer is becoming increasingly complex, and they're expected to be experts in dealing with a wide range of situations. Especially in cases where police need to be called to facilities that deal with dementia patients, for which they may not have adequate training.

‘The role of a police officer is growing wider and wider, and we’re expected to know everything about everything, and we’re not experts on everything,’ Commissioner Webb stated.



Nat then inquired about what a nursing home should do if a patient is brandishing a knife, to which the police commissioner said these cases were a ‘question of training’.

‘What training do they have to deal with those situations? Dealing with anyone with dementia is difficult ... it’s a last resort that they call the police,’ she explained.

This issue of inadequate training extends to nursing home staff as well, as highlighted by Dementia Support Australia's Steve Macfarlane. He called for more training for aged care workers, stating that staff should be able to de-escalate such situations themselves and not resort to calling the police.

‘Aged care staff really need to have the skills to de-escalate these sorts of situations themselves,’ he claimed.

As it currently stands, there is no mandatory training required for aged care workers in dealing with dementia patients in Australia.

You can watch a snippet of the interview below:



Key Takeaways

  • A 95-year-old grandmother with dementia was tasered by a police officer at Yallambee Lodge aged care facility in Cooma after allegedly failing to drop a steak knife.
  • NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb has been criticised for her refusal to watch the video of the incident, stating she is allowing detectives and specialists to do their job without her interfering in the investigation.
  • The police officer involved, a 33-year-old senior constable, has been suspended from duty with pay, and an investigation is being led by the homicide squad, the Professional Standards Committee of NSW Police, and the independent Law Enforcement Conduct Commission.
  • The incident has sparked calls for police training and healthcare reform and has raised questions about the training and weapons used by aged care workers. There is currently no mandatory training required for aged care workers on dealing with dementia patients.
We at Seniors Discount Club will continue to keep you updated on this story. Stay informed, and be sure to share your thoughts on these pressing issues with us in the comments below.

Do you think there needs to be more of an emphasis on training and education when dealing with people who are living with dementia? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below!

He must be charged with Aggravated Assault......just shows why so many get injured in the streets etc... they do it because they don't know you and get very scared....THAT WOMAN WOULD HAVE FALLEN BEFORE GETTING THE POLICEMAN...SHAME ON YOU 😥😥
 
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This was a gutless act by a NSW Policeman, apparently a judge has warned him before of excess use of force, He is a danger to the community and needs to be sacked from the job and charged with serious assault which should include jail time. As for the NSW Police Commissioner I suppose if she doesnt want to look at the footage because she might actually see what some of heer officers do, then that goes to show where the cowardice and lack of leadership comes from (although I believe public opinion is forcing her to do what she doesnt want to do). I get that the Pman is not guilty until proven by a court of law but there really has to be serious questions asked about his decision making and those who were with him that allowed him to act like he did, all concerned need to be held accountable).
I can't believe that a policeman has tasered this women. He should be charged with murder.
 
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This shows that both staff and our police are not trained to handle this situation. Staff at this aged care facility failed in thier duty of care! The whole scenario is not right! How hard is it to disarm a lady in her 90's and on a walking frame and suffering from dementia! The world has gone nuts! But people with mental health issues are treated like they are made of cotton wool!!
 
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I'm an ex nurse and if my memory serves me correctly there usually isn't any trained staff on a night shift in a nursing home. They are usually on call and will come in if they're needed.
Why why why did the carers ring the police?
In my opinion this was absolute stupidity.
A frail 95 yr old lady weighing 43 kilos with a steak knife in her hand walking on her zimmer frame? Anybody with half a brain could've deescalated that situation and it wouldn't even have been difficult, God only knows I've been there many times myself. Yes training to handle these situations better is not a bad thing, especially for those staff members that have no common sense. As for the police officer who tapered the poor lady is a coward and deserves to be sacked! He is not fit to be a police officer.
My heart goes out to the family.
 
This shows that both staff and our police are not trained to handle this situation. Staff at this aged care facility failed in thier duty of care! The whole scenario is not right! How hard is it to disarm a lady in her 90's and on a walking frame and suffering from dementia! The world has gone nuts! But people with mental health issues are treated like they are made of cotton wool!!

I am very sure more mental health suffers brandishing a weapon or exhibiting threatening behavior to others, have died by way of a gun, with real bullets, compared to dementia suffers.
Aggressive dementia suffers are no more or less a threat to others in that state - whether 19 or 90. You draw a distinction between dementia and mental health issues. Technically dementia is not mental health but the brain disorder is somewhat the same thing. Dementia usually a deterioration at older age - severe mental disorders usually much younger. To say that "The world has gone nuts! But people with mental health issues are treated like they are made of cotton wool!!" is as ignorant as it is prejudiced. I can assure you that mental health suffers walk a very hard and sad path - and from such an early age, living with so much prejudice even when no aggression is exhibited.
 
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Poor old lady is all I can say. Why anyone would be so afraid of a 95year old, frail, 43kg client, with or without dementia is beyond my comprehension. How did they think she was any kind of threat, yes she had a knife, she also had a wheelie walker. How was she going to attack anyone, her mobility meant she wouldn’t be able to chase anyone down, her frailty meant she wouldn’t have had the strength to harm anyone with the knife, her dementia meant she had no idea what was happening or why. Why couldn’t the staff handle the situation, why weren’t the family called to help if help was needed, why did the staff think the police were needed? Why did the police need to taser a little old lady, which is against the rules for use of a taser, don’t the police have to follow the rules? So many failures by the staff and the police. I worked in aged care for over 15 years with dementia clients and never saw a situation that couldn’t be managed by staff and on a rare occasion family help. Seems like a knee jerk reaction from staff and police to this situation, obviously not one ounce of common sense or thought entered their minds.
 
Everyone has been complaining about the police...2 questions for you
1.How did she get her hands on a knife ( dementia patients aren't normally allowed metal cutlery).
2 .Why didn't the 'trained ' staff defuse the situation...it's their job . Them call police would have added to her confusion and distress .

So who failed on their duty of care?
A 33 year old professonal Policeman and a 95 year old woman on a walker.?
Come on, how quickly can she move.??
Aren't Police trained to attend in every different situations and be prepared to face something unexpected, or are they just trained to use taisers and guns.?

I do remember in my young days while travelling around Australia and working in remote aeas and small towns (Yes including Cooma) where the old Police Sergeant was prepared to act in any situation including grabbing the nuisance person by the scruff of the neck and kick him/her up the arse while landing them in the paddy wagon all in one go, NO IFS AND BUTTS. Today.????????????????????


I do like and admire the Police for what they are doing and you can rest assured of that but, as in everything else, there is always a bad apple which spoils it for everyone else.

If what is said and/or circulated around at present about this Policeman is true why was he allowed to attend such a situation.??
 
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Poor old lady is all I can say. Why anyone would be so afraid of a 95year old, frail, 43kg client, with or without dementia is beyond my comprehension. How did they think she was any kind of threat, yes she had a knife, she also had a wheelie walker. How was she going to attack anyone, her mobility meant she wouldn’t be able to chase anyone down, her frailty meant she wouldn’t have had the strength to harm anyone with the knife, her dementia meant she had no idea what was happening or why. Why couldn’t the staff handle the situation, why weren’t the family called to help if help was needed, why did the staff think the police were needed? Why did the police need to taser a little old lady, which is against the rules for use of a taser, don’t the police have to follow the rules? So many failures by the staff and the police. I worked in aged care for over 15 years with dementia clients and never saw a situation that couldn’t be managed by staff and on a rare occasion family help. Seems like a knee jerk reaction from staff and police to this situation, obviously not one ounce of common sense or thought entered their minds.
Could not agree with you more.

Someone stuffed up and stuffed up big. Period.!

And for the Police Commissioner to refusing to watch the video of the occurrence is totally beyond beliefs. Isn't she the boss of them all.??

Shouldn't she ascertain that her people are doing what they are suppoised to be doing and, if not, to make sure of some new training to take place instead of simply saying that she is waiting for someone else to make the call..?

Isn't that her job.?

I think the Premier should steo in and ask the serious question here.
 
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I am disgusted and upset. Surely police can remove a knife from an elderly lady without an inhumane act. Lucky this not my mum. Police officer or not would feel the wrath of my fury🤬🤬
 
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I am disgusted and upset. Surely police can remove a knife from an elderly lady without an inhumane act like this. Back to police school for you
 
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