Energy giant ENGIE admits misleading customer about power prices after 'deceptive and misleading' behaviour

Global energy company ENGIE has apologised and admitted it misled a customer who was trying to negotiate a better deal by telling him that power prices were set by the government.

South Australian resident Fred Newman, who was also previously slapped with a one month bill of $1,200 by the provider, was told he could not negotiate a better price.


"When I spoke to ENGIE about the latest increase that they wanted — to 65 cents — they said to me that charge is set by the government," Mr Newman said at the time.

"I said to the person that's a straight up lie because you're a private company and you've got a profit margin and you can choose how to set this."

After Mr Newman took the company to the South Australian Energy and Water Ombudsman, the company apologised and confirmed it had misled Mr Newman, adding it was carrying out further training for the staff member.


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Former ENGIE customer Fred Newman says he was incorrectly told the government sets energy prices. (ABC News: Trent Murphy)


"ENGIE's call centre scripts do not state or suggest that governments set market prices, and we have delivered agent coaching and targeting retraining about the importance of providing correct information to customers," a company spokesperson said.

'Quite deceptive and misleading'​

Mr Newman said he was appalled at the way the company had behaved and had since changed electricity providers.

"I got a phone call back from ENGIE from their complaints resolution manager who said that he'd listened to the phone call and that indeed those words 'set by the government' were used in error," Mr Newman said.


"Well, it's quite deceptive and quite misleading.

"I wouldn't be the only person, there would be lots of people that they've said this to."

It comes amid a swathe of criticism aimed at the energy provider, with ENGIE issuing up to 3,000 of its customers price "corrections" after questions about increases.


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ENGIE says it has delivered coaching and targeted retraining to provide correct information to customers. (ABC News: Stephen Opie)


'Treated as a number'​

Peter Doyle, who was among those to receive a price correction, said he had also been misled, and not offered a cheaper default offer, by the company when he called to complain about his peak price of $1.10 per kwh.

"I said 'this can't be correct' and the comment I got back was that 'no, that is correct'," Mr Doyle said.

"Until I complained to [the ABC] nothing was going to happen.

"You're only treated as a number, and they really didn't care."


South Australian Energy Minister Tom Koutsantonis, who had already referred ENGIE to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), has also now sent ENGIE's latest admission to the ACCC.

"I'm horrified by it," Mr Koutsantonis said.

"Imagine South Australians hearing from their energy retailers that the government is setting the price for electricity and that they have to pay it.

"It's ridiculous and I want to see heads roll.


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Fred Newman says he is appalled at the way ENGIE behaved. (ABC News: Carl Saville)


"We can't have customers thinking there's a legal obligation on them to pay an unfair bill.

"The idea that this is somehow a script malfunction or some poor call centre operator who got it wrong, I'm finding a bit hard to believe now.

"I think it's getting to the point where there's actually something else going on that needs to be investigated and there needs to be prosecutions."

Energy and Water Ombudsman SA, Sandy Canale, said while he could not comment on the specific case, any error was a concern.

"There are circumstances where genuine errors do occur and what we try to do is to get the customer back to where they would have been," he said.

"Where it's more than an error, and it's more likely to be a systemic type problem, our role in that situation is to report that incident … to the Australian energy regulator, who then has the power to review the matter and determine whether there's any other action that may be required."

Mr Canale said if energy consumers were unhappy with the response they had received from their retailer, they should contact the SA Energy and Water Ombudsman's office.

The ACCC said it does not comment "on complaints received or potential investigations".

By James Wakelin
 

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These utility companies will not admit of any wrongdoing until one takes the matter further
Then the blame is laid on “ some call centre operator who got it wrong “ . Ha ha
 
These utility companies will not admit of any wrongdoing until one takes the matter further
Then the blame is laid on “ some call centre operator who got it wrong “ . Ha ha
Easier to blame and employee than pay a fine
 
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I put all the blame on Govt.
None of this would be happening if it were not for the stupid, useless, idiotic, headless rush to renewables that this blind Govt is herding Australia towards.
It is destroying Australia, and will not make one iota of difference to the climate.
 
My problem with Engie is the Pension Concession is missed & needs to chased up. Even then the call taker is misinformed & stated that it is only available on May-August bills.
I will now check my costs on bills also.
 
I have been told by AGL that the $75 and my feed in Tariff from solar has been cancelled by the Government, anyone know if this is true or false.
 
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Good old privatisation.
 
everyone should check out "Amber" for wholesale prices, they are a damn sight cheaper than Engie or anyone else for that matter.
 
I have been told the same by Energy Australia and Origin Energy. I am not with either anymore.
 
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they were simply energy before they changed names and as simply energy they were disgusting with their pricing
lowering feed in tarriffs over summer and then lying about their deals
had to go through the ombudsman to recive back funds as well
BE CAREFULL WHO U SIGN UP WITH AND GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING
 
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I put all the blame on Govt.
None of this would be happening if it were not for the stupid, useless, idiotic, headless rush to renewables that this blind Govt is herding Australia towards.
It is destroying Australia, and will not make one iota of difference to the climate.
Rubbish. It’s outright greed on the part of the company.
 
These utility companies will not admit of any wrongdoing until one takes the matter further
Then the blame is laid on “ some call centre operator who got it wrong “ . Ha ha
Agree, what bs- utilities companies just as untrustworthy as supermarkets, politicians, insurance providers & thieves
 
Rubbish. It’s outright greed on the part of the company.
Not rubbish. The government is hell bent on destroying the country and the future of our children at the same time. The should arrest them and shoot them as traitors. They've sold us out and sold us up for decades to the Chinese and other countries. We own nothing in this country anymore. We don't even own our power grid because the government allowed it to be sold. To me, that's treason!
 
Agree, what bs- utilities companies just as untrustworthy as supermarkets, politicians, insurance providers & thieves
You forgot about real estate agents are car salesmen. By far the worst are our politicians.
 
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Ah ha. Another great cause for a 'Class Action' against this mob for "Misleading & Fraudulent" practices on their customers. Unlawful gouging of money.
Go for it. I reckon that there would be an excellent result in favour of all you poor wretches of customers of this sleezy mob.
 
We find it astounding that someone would have an electricity bill or $1200 a month. Ours is $160 during winter and $100 a month in summer. What is he doing? Growing hydroponic good stuff?
 

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