Does this parking loophole really work? Expert weighs in on the discussion

Navigating the world of parking fines could be a tricky road for Aussie drivers.

This rings true, especially when it comes to distinguishing between penalties issued by local councils and those from private companies.

A recent incident sparked another discussion about the enforceability of privately issued fines and its possible loopholes.


A Perth-based driver recently received a $77 parking fine at Bull Creek Shopping Centre.

The driver's predicament had many drivers wondering: what should they do when faced with a parking fine from a private establishment?

Is it as simple as tossing the notice in the bin, or are there hidden dangers to such an approach?


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Car park rules in private establishments need to be recognised and followed. Image Credit: Pexels/Stephan Müller


The driver immediately took to social media to seek advice after being fined for parking without a permit.

The driver's question received a flurry of responses from fellow Aussie motorists.

The majority of this advice told the driver to ignore the notice.

This advice was based on the belief that private parking fines lack the same legal weight as those issued by councils.


However, lawyer Hayder Shkara issued a stark warning against this seemingly cheeky loophole.

Shkara clarified in an interview that while private parking fines are indeed different from the council-issued ones, ignoring them could still carry significant risks.

When drivers park their vehicles in private car parks, like those of a shopping centre, drivers enter a contract with the private entity that owns the area.

This means drivers agree to abide by the car park's terms and conditions.

Failing to do so could lead to a 'breach notice', as experienced by the Perth driver.


Shkara also explained that to enforce these fines, companies must take civil action.

'If you don't pay, the terms and conditions say that they will send a reminder letter with extra fees,' Shkara said.

'If you keep ignoring it, they may refer the matter to debt recovery, adding further costs. They can also access registered owner details to chase payments.'

While legal action may not always be pursued, Shkara warned that if debt continues to grow due to 'administrative fees', it could be substantial enough for debt collectors to take the matter to court.


So, what's the best course of action for drivers who find themselves in this situation?

'It's best to appeal rather than ignore it,' Shkara advised.

'Otherwise, you can choose to pay or take the risk of ignoring it, knowing the possible consequences.'

Parking fines could be a source of frustration, particularly when they seem excessive.

If you're unsure about a fine, please seek legal advice or contact the issuing company to discuss your options.
Key Takeaways

  • A Perth driver received a $77 parking fine from a private company for parking without a permit.
  • Lawyer Hayder Shkara warned that ignoring private parking fines could have risks as they could lead to additional fees and legal action.
  • The parking company could take civil action should the debt rise to a considerable amount.
  • Shkara advised drivers to appeal the fine if it seems unfair rather than ignoring it.
Have you ever been caught in a parking fine dilemma? Did you pay up, appeal, or ignore it? Share your experiences with us in the comments below.
 

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Australia should take a leaf out of New Zealand's book where a car owner's details, such as name and address, be withheld, by legislation, from private entities, such as private parking operators.

These "fines" are not fines at all. Only courts can administer fines. Police and local councils can only issue infringement notices, not fines.

There is also the legality of added "administrative" costs by these shady operators.
 
Australia should take a leaf out of New Zealand's book where a car owner's details, such as name and address, be withheld, by legislation, from private entities, such as private parking operators.

These "fines" are not fines at all. Only courts can administer fines. Police and local councils can only issue infringement notices, not fines.

There is also the legality of added "administrative" costs by these shady operators.
thank heaven's I got rid of my car.
Happy St Pat's Day Veggie and family 🍀 :love:
 
"When drivers park their vehicles in private car parks, like those of a shopping centre, drivers enter a contract with the private entity that owns the area.

This means drivers agree to abide by the car park's terms and conditions."

Surely this means that, at the entrance to the carpark, there must be a notice clearly displaying the terms & conditions of entering said car park. If we choose not to read them then that is our choice but if they are not displayed then surely we can't be held responsible for breaking them.
 
"When drivers park their vehicles in private car parks, like those of a shopping centre, drivers enter a contract with the private entity that owns the area.

This means drivers agree to abide by the car park's terms and conditions."

Surely this means that, at the entrance to the carpark, there must be a notice clearly displaying the terms & conditions of entering said car park. If we choose not to read them then that is our choice but if they are not displayed then surely we can't be held responsible for breaking them.
You will find there are notices posted all around car parks of shopping centres particularly here in Perth and they state how long you can park there, and do not leave the shopping centre etc so it is self explanatory. I do occasionally leave my car at Bull Creek and take the train to the city but make sure I am back within the time as there is not enough parking at the station. Not always an option to take a bus from home.
 
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At the shopping centre across the road from the P.A. hospital in Brisbane they have had cars towed as the security people have seen people just get out of their car and go straight to the hospital & not gone into the shops, quite often you will see a tow truck just waiting around in the car park.
 
okay we need to obey their terms and conditions however i was of the belief that they would need to display them at their entry and exit points otherwise like other companies is insurance for one we must be supplied the terms and conditions and i thought that they had to as well
 
At the shopping centre across the road from the P.A. hospital in Brisbane they have had cars towed as the security people have seen people just get out of their car and go straight to the hospital & not gone into the shops, quite often you will see a tow truck just waiting around in the car park.
There are strict laws surrounding the towing of vehicles from carparks in Queensland. The tow truck operator must be accredited to undertake such actions and must take all reasonable steps to contact the vehicle's owner. It's not a simple process of chucking a car on the back of a tilt tray truck and away they go

Don't forget - wheel clamping is illegal in Queensland.


 
You will find there are notices posted all around car parks of shopping centres particularly here in Perth and they state how long you can park there, and do not leave the shopping centre etc so it is self explanatory. I do occasionally leave my car at Bull Creek and take the train to the city but make sure I am back within the time as there is not enough parking at the station. Not always an option to take a bus from home.
Not necessarily so. The closest town to me has no notice at the supermarket carpark & when I go to the next city I park in 2 shopping centre car parks & I have never seen any notices in the 20 years I have lived out here.
 
If you appeal they find out your name and address. There is no way police or courts would give them access to private information. How can they pursue ??
 
Veggiepatch, you are partially right however, in NSW the Police can issue fines of a monetary value which are inforcable in the Courts: speeding fine, parking fines, transport offences incur fines which we issue, these fines can be contested at Court and if found by the Courts to have been legally issued the offender can have 'Court Costs' added to the fine. You are right that private opperators of parking areas must display the terms and conditions of entry and use of private propery and they can, in some cases by persued by them through the debt recovery avenues... Drivers must be aware of the various laws in each state as they do vary...in NSW the 'fine value' is also displayed on the notice which is part of infringement issuing process. Hope that helps.
 

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