Discover the true secret behind store mirrors at self-checkouts—it may not be what you think!

As stealing becomes more ‘popular’ in our current economic climate, shops are doing a multitude of things to stop it, such as keeping items behind glass and using security cameras.


Yet, there's a simple technique that was used before CCTV to reduce theft—placing a mirror at the self-checkout stations.

If you see yourself when you're checking out your items, it's not just for you to see how you look. The mirror is there to make those who might want to steal think twice about it.

Several studies show that when people see their reflection in a mirror, they usually don't do bad things.


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In June, retail theft in New South Wales, Australia's most populous state, spiked by 47.5% year-on-year, as reported by government data. Image source: Pixabay


‘People behave in accordance with social desirability in the presence of mirrors,’ one study from 1976 found.

‘Mirrors influence impulsivity, a feature that is closely related to decision-making in both social and non-social situations.’

The study also noted that ‘participants’ private self-awareness was activated by the mirrors, which influenced their ‘decision-making as a non-social cue’ throughout the test.


The results even showed that when people see themselves, they often act better and follow rules.

Another research from the University of East Anglia discovered that asking drivers to think about their actions on a warning sign could get more people to follow the advice.

They conducted an experiment using a road sign that encouraged drivers to turn off their engines at a railroad crossing while waiting for a train.


The sign initially said, ‘When barriers are down, switch off your engine,’ and 30% of drivers complied. However, when the phrase, ‘Think of yourself,’ was added to the sign, compliance increased to 51%.

A report by Mashed last year suggested placing mirrors at self-checkout counters is a strategy to deter theft by making individuals ‘more aware of their own behaviour’.

The topic of mirrors at self-checkout stations has been a subject of extensive discussion on Reddit over the years, with many concurring with a specific theory.


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Other than theft, mirrors can raise awareness and stop people from spitting in stores. Image source: Pexels



One user shared: ‘A study in social psychology suggested that people tip more and are less likely to steal when a large set of eyes, such as a painting, are placed near the patron.’

‘It is thought to increase self-consciousness. Mirrors are also effective at raising the awareness of the self.’

‘Perhaps shoppers at supermarkets will be less prone to theft when presented with their very image following their every move.’

Another wrote, ‘The reason they put mirrors up at supermarkets and other stores is actually quite interesting, it is derived from psychology.’


‘They think people will question their own self-concept in relation to morals and think twice about stealing.'

‘It reduces theft. Or at least it is supposed to,’ someone agreed. ‘That is why there are so many mirrors in hotel rooms. Reduces damages.’

Earlier this year, retail theft in Australia hit an all-time high. In response, stores have adopted various security measures, including the use of AI technology and placing mirrors in places at self-checkouts to deter theft.


Coles takes a bold stand against theft

Coles has recently implemented ‘smart gateway technology’ to make sure shoppers pay for their items before leaving the store.

This system uses automated panels to allow paying customers to exit while deterring theft by remaining closed for others.


They will also introduce a ‘trolley lock’ system to prevent unpaid groceries from leaving the store.

Moreover, Coles plans to equip 30 high-risk stores in multiple states with body-worn cameras to improve security and real-time monitoring of staff and customer interactions.

For the full story, please read more here.
Key Takeaways

  • Retail stores are using the tactic of placing mirrors at self-checkout stations in an attempt to prevent theft.
  • Various studies reveal that people are less likely to engage in negative behaviour when they can see their own reflection.
  • The presence of mirrors is said to activate private self-awareness in people, thereby influencing their decision-making and reducing impulsivity.
Members, what are your thoughts on this story? Could the presence of mirrors at self-checkout stations really deter theft and influence behaviour positively? Join the discussion in the comments below!
 

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Well, after wading through all that psychobabble, my "key take-away" from the article was that SDC is heading more and more down the path blazed by the women's rags you see at the checkouts, what with the ever-icreasing number of "come in, ya galah" headline enticers such as those displayed every day on the site. The only things missing are the screamers which infest the No Idea style of "journalism". I'd love to get one of those "ingeniuos" hearing aids, too ...
 
Well, after wading through all that psychobabble, my "key take-away" from the article was that SDC is heading more and more down the path blazed by the women's rags you see at the checkouts, what with the ever-icreasing number of "come in, ya galah" headline enticers such as those displayed every day on the site. The only things missing are the screamers which infest the No Idea style of "journalism". I'd love to get one of those "ingeniuos" hearing aids, too ...
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As stealing becomes more ‘popular’ in our current economic climate, shops are doing a multitude of things to stop it, such as keeping items behind glass and using security cameras.


Yet, there's a simple technique that was used before CCTV to reduce theft—placing a mirror at the self-checkout stations.

If you see yourself when you're checking out your items, it's not just for you to see how you look. The mirror is there to make those who might want to steal think twice about it.

Several studies show that when people see their reflection in a mirror, they usually don't do bad things.


View attachment 31818
In June, retail theft in New South Wales, Australia's most populous state, spiked by 47.5% year-on-year, as reported by government data. Image source: Pixabay


‘People behave in accordance with social desirability in the presence of mirrors,’ one study from 1976 found.

‘Mirrors influence impulsivity, a feature that is closely related to decision-making in both social and non-social situations.’

The study also noted that ‘participants’ private self-awareness was activated by the mirrors, which influenced their ‘decision-making as a non-social cue’ throughout the test.


The results even showed that when people see themselves, they often act better and follow rules.

Another research from the University of East Anglia discovered that asking drivers to think about their actions on a warning sign could get more people to follow the advice.

They conducted an experiment using a road sign that encouraged drivers to turn off their engines at a railroad crossing while waiting for a train.


The sign initially said, ‘When barriers are down, switch off your engine,’ and 30% of drivers complied. However, when the phrase, ‘Think of yourself,’ was added to the sign, compliance increased to 51%.

A report by Mashed last year suggested placing mirrors at self-checkout counters is a strategy to deter theft by making individuals ‘more aware of their own behaviour’.

The topic of mirrors at self-checkout stations has been a subject of extensive discussion on Reddit over the years, with many concurring with a specific theory.


View attachment 31819
Other than theft, mirrors can raise awareness and stop people from spitting in stores. Image source: Pexels



One user shared: ‘A study in social psychology suggested that people tip more and are less likely to steal when a large set of eyes, such as a painting, are placed near the patron.’

‘It is thought to increase self-consciousness. Mirrors are also effective at raising the awareness of the self.’

‘Perhaps shoppers at supermarkets will be less prone to theft when presented with their very image following their every move.’

Another wrote, ‘The reason they put mirrors up at supermarkets and other stores is actually quite interesting, it is derived from psychology.’


‘They think people will question their own self-concept in relation to morals and think twice about stealing.'

‘It reduces theft. Or at least it is supposed to,’ someone agreed. ‘That is why there are so many mirrors in hotel rooms. Reduces damages.’

Earlier this year, retail theft in Australia hit an all-time high. In response, stores have adopted various security measures, including the use of AI technology and placing mirrors in places at self-checkouts to deter theft.


Coles takes a bold stand against theft

Coles has recently implemented ‘smart gateway technology’ to make sure shoppers pay for their items before leaving the store.

This system uses automated panels to allow paying customers to exit while deterring theft by remaining closed for others.


They will also introduce a ‘trolley lock’ system to prevent unpaid groceries from leaving the store.

Moreover, Coles plans to equip 30 high-risk stores in multiple states with body-worn cameras to improve security and real-time monitoring of staff and customer interactions.

For the full story, please read more here.
Key Takeaways

  • Retail stores are using the tactic of placing mirrors at self-checkout stations in an attempt to prevent theft.
  • Various studies reveal that people are less likely to engage in negative behaviour when they can see their own reflection.
  • The presence of mirrors is said to activate private self-awareness in people, thereby influencing their decision-making and reducing impulsivity.
Members, what are your thoughts on this story? Could the presence of mirrors at self-checkout stations really deter theft and influence behaviour positively? Join the discussion in the comments below!
I was bought up to realise that my name was worth more than a fine for theft.
 
As stealing becomes more ‘popular’ in our current economic climate, shops are doing a multitude of things to stop it, such as keeping items behind glass and using security cameras.


Yet, there's a simple technique that was used before CCTV to reduce theft—placing a mirror at the self-checkout stations.

If you see yourself when you're checking out your items, it's not just for you to see how you look. The mirror is there to make those who might want to steal think twice about it.

Several studies show that when people see their reflection in a mirror, they usually don't do bad things.


View attachment 31818
In June, retail theft in New South Wales, Australia's most populous state, spiked by 47.5% year-on-year, as reported by government data. Image source: Pixabay


‘People behave in accordance with social desirability in the presence of mirrors,’ one study from 1976 found.

‘Mirrors influence impulsivity, a feature that is closely related to decision-making in both social and non-social situations.’

The study also noted that ‘participants’ private self-awareness was activated by the mirrors, which influenced their ‘decision-making as a non-social cue’ throughout the test.


The results even showed that when people see themselves, they often act better and follow rules.

Another research from the University of East Anglia discovered that asking drivers to think about their actions on a warning sign could get more people to follow the advice.

They conducted an experiment using a road sign that encouraged drivers to turn off their engines at a railroad crossing while waiting for a train.


The sign initially said, ‘When barriers are down, switch off your engine,’ and 30% of drivers complied. However, when the phrase, ‘Think of yourself,’ was added to the sign, compliance increased to 51%.

A report by Mashed last year suggested placing mirrors at self-checkout counters is a strategy to deter theft by making individuals ‘more aware of their own behaviour’.

The topic of mirrors at self-checkout stations has been a subject of extensive discussion on Reddit over the years, with many concurring with a specific theory.


View attachment 31819
Other than theft, mirrors can raise awareness and stop people from spitting in stores. Image source: Pexels



One user shared: ‘A study in social psychology suggested that people tip more and are less likely to steal when a large set of eyes, such as a painting, are placed near the patron.’

‘It is thought to increase self-consciousness. Mirrors are also effective at raising the awareness of the self.’

‘Perhaps shoppers at supermarkets will be less prone to theft when presented with their very image following their every move.’

Another wrote, ‘The reason they put mirrors up at supermarkets and other stores is actually quite interesting, it is derived from psychology.’


‘They think people will question their own self-concept in relation to morals and think twice about stealing.'

‘It reduces theft. Or at least it is supposed to,’ someone agreed. ‘That is why there are so many mirrors in hotel rooms. Reduces damages.’

Earlier this year, retail theft in Australia hit an all-time high. In response, stores have adopted various security measures, including the use of AI technology and placing mirrors in places at self-checkouts to deter theft.


Coles takes a bold stand against theft

Coles has recently implemented ‘smart gateway technology’ to make sure shoppers pay for their items before leaving the store.

This system uses automated panels to allow paying customers to exit while deterring theft by remaining closed for others.


They will also introduce a ‘trolley lock’ system to prevent unpaid groceries from leaving the store.

Moreover, Coles plans to equip 30 high-risk stores in multiple states with body-worn cameras to improve security and real-time monitoring of staff and customer interactions.

For the full story, please read more here.
Key Takeaways

  • Retail stores are using the tactic of placing mirrors at self-checkout stations in an attempt to prevent theft.
  • Various studies reveal that people are less likely to engage in negative behaviour when they can see their own reflection.
  • The presence of mirrors is said to activate private self-awareness in people, thereby influencing their decision-making and reducing impulsivity.
Members, what are your thoughts on this story? Could the presence of mirrors at self-checkout stations really deter theft and influence behaviour positively? Join the discussion in the comments below!
 
Oh, My Goodness!
Stealing is not a new trick; it has been around for centuries. We have all seen Oliver Twist and Robin Hood.
That is how people survived, and in this day and age, sadly some, not all are still doing it for this reason.
There is not more stealing, just more people.
 
I am seriously thinking that shopping at Coles and Woolies is just not worth it, not only do they blatantly rip us off with high prices, I have been told by many people who know their buying procedures that this is true, and now they expect us to do their job and serve ourselves but in the process we are made to feel like criminals for doing it, by virtually filming us and locking us in the stores till we are proven not guilty. If they don't want to provide manned checkouts then the risk of higher theft is on them, honest customers won't steal and thieves will just find another way to beat their system. I for one will not shop there anymore if there is not manned checkouts even if it means shopping at higher priced local stores. Çoles and Woolworths have mulipulated the food market for way too long !
 
I can't remember what shop it was, but it was a few years ago. A shop I used to go in had a whole wall as a mirror next to the entrance to their office. It was obvious that you were being watched from the other side. 🙂
Nobody took any notice of it as everyone was used to it.
 
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When we are talking about ‘mirrors’ , are we talking about the ‘cameras’ on the checkout screen which have recently appeared ??
If Cole’s and Woolies don’t want stealing, then just get rid of the self checkouts and employ more people checkouts. The extra cost will pay for the stealing at self checkouts and should be reduce the cost of products in store. OR give customers that use self checkouts a % discount off their shop for having to do the job of the people assisted checkout. This may reduce stealing as well !
 
When we are talking about ‘mirrors’ , are we talking about the ‘cameras’ on the checkout screen which have recently appeared ??
If Cole’s and Woolies don’t want stealing, then just get rid of the self checkouts and employ more people checkouts. The extra cost will pay for the stealing at self checkouts and should be reduce the cost of products in store. OR give customers that use self checkouts a % discount off their shop for having to do the job of the people assisted checkout. This may reduce stealing as well !
People will steal just as much at a check out, can’t quite imagine people spitting in a store…..
 
As stealing becomes more ‘popular’ in our current economic climate, shops are doing a multitude of things to stop it, such as keeping items behind glass and using security cameras.


Yet, there's a simple technique that was used before CCTV to reduce theft—placing a mirror at the self-checkout stations.

If you see yourself when you're checking out your items, it's not just for you to see how you look. The mirror is there to make those who might want to steal think twice about it.

Several studies show that when people see their reflection in a mirror, they usually don't do bad things.


View attachment 31818
In June, retail theft in New South Wales, Australia's most populous state, spiked by 47.5% year-on-year, as reported by government data. Image source: Pixabay


‘People behave in accordance with social desirability in the presence of mirrors,’ one study from 1976 found.

‘Mirrors influence impulsivity, a feature that is closely related to decision-making in both social and non-social situations.’

The study also noted that ‘participants’ private self-awareness was activated by the mirrors, which influenced their ‘decision-making as a non-social cue’ throughout the test.


The results even showed that when people see themselves, they often act better and follow rules.

Another research from the University of East Anglia discovered that asking drivers to think about their actions on a warning sign could get more people to follow the advice.

They conducted an experiment using a road sign that encouraged drivers to turn off their engines at a railroad crossing while waiting for a train.


The sign initially said, ‘When barriers are down, switch off your engine,’ and 30% of drivers complied. However, when the phrase, ‘Think of yourself,’ was added to the sign, compliance increased to 51%.

A report by Mashed last year suggested placing mirrors at self-checkout counters is a strategy to deter theft by making individuals ‘more aware of their own behaviour’.

The topic of mirrors at self-checkout stations has been a subject of extensive discussion on Reddit over the years, with many concurring with a specific theory.


View attachment 31819
Other than theft, mirrors can raise awareness and stop people from spitting in stores. Image source: Pexels



One user shared: ‘A study in social psychology suggested that people tip more and are less likely to steal when a large set of eyes, such as a painting, are placed near the patron.’

‘It is thought to increase self-consciousness. Mirrors are also effective at raising the awareness of the self.’

‘Perhaps shoppers at supermarkets will be less prone to theft when presented with their very image following their every move.’

Another wrote, ‘The reason they put mirrors up at supermarkets and other stores is actually quite interesting, it is derived from psychology.’


‘They think people will question their own self-concept in relation to morals and think twice about stealing.'

‘It reduces theft. Or at least it is supposed to,’ someone agreed. ‘That is why there are so many mirrors in hotel rooms. Reduces damages.’

Earlier this year, retail theft in Australia hit an all-time high. In response, stores have adopted various security measures, including the use of AI technology and placing mirrors in places at self-checkouts to deter theft.


Coles takes a bold stand against theft

Coles has recently implemented ‘smart gateway technology’ to make sure shoppers pay for their items before leaving the store.

This system uses automated panels to allow paying customers to exit while deterring theft by remaining closed for others.


They will also introduce a ‘trolley lock’ system to prevent unpaid groceries from leaving the store.

Moreover, Coles plans to equip 30 high-risk stores in multiple states with body-worn cameras to improve security and real-time monitoring of staff and customer interactions.

For the full story, please read more here.
Key Takeaways

  • Retail stores are using the tactic of placing mirrors at self-checkout stations in an attempt to prevent theft.
  • Various studies reveal that people are less likely to engage in negative behaviour when they can see their own reflection.
  • The presence of mirrors is said to activate private self-awareness in people, thereby influencing their decision-making and reducing impulsivity.
Members, what are your thoughts on this story? Could the presence of mirrors at self-checkout stations really deter theft and influence behaviour positively? Join the discussion in the comments below!
They are 2 sided mirrors. Camera on the other side.
Don't pinch the stuff!
 
As stealing becomes more ‘popular’ in our current economic climate, shops are doing a multitude of things to stop it, such as keeping items behind glass and using security cameras.


Yet, there's a simple technique that was used before CCTV to reduce theft—placing a mirror at the self-checkout stations.

If you see yourself when you're checking out your items, it's not just for you to see how you look. The mirror is there to make those who might want to steal think twice about it.

Several studies show that when people see their reflection in a mirror, they usually don't do bad things.


View attachment 31818
In June, retail theft in New South Wales, Australia's most populous state, spiked by 47.5% year-on-year, as reported by government data. Image source: Pixabay


‘People behave in accordance with social desirability in the presence of mirrors,’ one study from 1976 found.

‘Mirrors influence impulsivity, a feature that is closely related to decision-making in both social and non-social situations.’

The study also noted that ‘participants’ private self-awareness was activated by the mirrors, which influenced their ‘decision-making as a non-social cue’ throughout the test.


The results even showed that when people see themselves, they often act better and follow rules.

Another research from the University of East Anglia discovered that asking drivers to think about their actions on a warning sign could get more people to follow the advice.

They conducted an experiment using a road sign that encouraged drivers to turn off their engines at a railroad crossing while waiting for a train.


The sign initially said, ‘When barriers are down, switch off your engine,’ and 30% of drivers complied. However, when the phrase, ‘Think of yourself,’ was added to the sign, compliance increased to 51%.

A report by Mashed last year suggested placing mirrors at self-checkout counters is a strategy to deter theft by making individuals ‘more aware of their own behaviour’.

The topic of mirrors at self-checkout stations has been a subject of extensive discussion on Reddit over the years, with many concurring with a specific theory.


View attachment 31819
Other than theft, mirrors can raise awareness and stop people from spitting in stores. Image source: Pexels



One user shared: ‘A study in social psychology suggested that people tip more and are less likely to steal when a large set of eyes, such as a painting, are placed near the patron.’

‘It is thought to increase self-consciousness. Mirrors are also effective at raising the awareness of the self.’

‘Perhaps shoppers at supermarkets will be less prone to theft when presented with their very image following their every move.’

Another wrote, ‘The reason they put mirrors up at supermarkets and other stores is actually quite interesting, it is derived from psychology.’


‘They think people will question their own self-concept in relation to morals and think twice about stealing.'

‘It reduces theft. Or at least it is supposed to,’ someone agreed. ‘That is why there are so many mirrors in hotel rooms. Reduces damages.’

Earlier this year, retail theft in Australia hit an all-time high. In response, stores have adopted various security measures, including the use of AI technology and placing mirrors in places at self-checkouts to deter theft.


Coles takes a bold stand against theft

Coles has recently implemented ‘smart gateway technology’ to make sure shoppers pay for their items before leaving the store.

This system uses automated panels to allow paying customers to exit while deterring theft by remaining closed for others.


They will also introduce a ‘trolley lock’ system to prevent unpaid groceries from leaving the store.

Moreover, Coles plans to equip 30 high-risk stores in multiple states with body-worn cameras to improve security and real-time monitoring of staff and customer interactions.

For the full story, please read more here.
Key Takeaways

  • Retail stores are using the tactic of placing mirrors at self-checkout stations in an attempt to prevent theft.
  • Various studies reveal that people are less likely to engage in negative behaviour when they can see their own reflection.
  • The presence of mirrors is said to activate private self-awareness in people, thereby influencing their decision-making and reducing impulsivity.
Members, what are your thoughts on this story? Could the presence of mirrors at self-checkout stations really deter theft and influence behaviour positively? Join the discussion in the comments below!
I hate how i look in ANY mirror - so why the F would i wanna see myself at a checkout whether it be in a mirror or on the screen cause of the front facing camera?
It's not going to improve how i think i look and i certainly doubt it would do anything but P#$$ me off. I don't steal. I used to work on a checkout so i know how things mount up quick and if i can't afford it i put it back or get less of other things if i really need it. Stealing only makes things more expensive for everyone in the end.
 
As stealing becomes more ‘popular’ in our current economic climate, shops are doing a multitude of things to stop it, such as keeping items behind glass and using security cameras.


Yet, there's a simple technique that was used before CCTV to reduce theft—placing a mirror at the self-checkout stations.

If you see yourself when you're checking out your items, it's not just for you to see how you look. The mirror is there to make those who might want to steal think twice about it.

Several studies show that when people see their reflection in a mirror, they usually don't do bad things.


View attachment 31818
In June, retail theft in New South Wales, Australia's most populous state, spiked by 47.5% year-on-year, as reported by government data. Image source: Pixabay


‘People behave in accordance with social desirability in the presence of mirrors,’ one study from 1976 found.

‘Mirrors influence impulsivity, a feature that is closely related to decision-making in both social and non-social situations.’

The study also noted that ‘participants’ private self-awareness was activated by the mirrors, which influenced their ‘decision-making as a non-social cue’ throughout the test.


The results even showed that when people see themselves, they often act better and follow rules.

Another research from the University of East Anglia discovered that asking drivers to think about their actions on a warning sign could get more people to follow the advice.

They conducted an experiment using a road sign that encouraged drivers to turn off their engines at a railroad crossing while waiting for a train.


The sign initially said, ‘When barriers are down, switch off your engine,’ and 30% of drivers complied. However, when the phrase, ‘Think of yourself,’ was added to the sign, compliance increased to 51%.

A report by Mashed last year suggested placing mirrors at self-checkout counters is a strategy to deter theft by making individuals ‘more aware of their own behaviour’.

The topic of mirrors at self-checkout stations has been a subject of extensive discussion on Reddit over the years, with many concurring with a specific theory.


View attachment 31819
Other than theft, mirrors can raise awareness and stop people from spitting in stores. Image source: Pexels



One user shared: ‘A study in social psychology suggested that people tip more and are less likely to steal when a large set of eyes, such as a painting, are placed near the patron.’

‘It is thought to increase self-consciousness. Mirrors are also effective at raising the awareness of the self.’

‘Perhaps shoppers at supermarkets will be less prone to theft when presented with their very image following their every move.’

Another wrote, ‘The reason they put mirrors up at supermarkets and other stores is actually quite interesting, it is derived from psychology.’


‘They think people will question their own self-concept in relation to morals and think twice about stealing.'

‘It reduces theft. Or at least it is supposed to,’ someone agreed. ‘That is why there are so many mirrors in hotel rooms. Reduces damages.’

Earlier this year, retail theft in Australia hit an all-time high. In response, stores have adopted various security measures, including the use of AI technology and placing mirrors in places at self-checkouts to deter theft.


Coles takes a bold stand against theft

Coles has recently implemented ‘smart gateway technology’ to make sure shoppers pay for their items before leaving the store.

This system uses automated panels to allow paying customers to exit while deterring theft by remaining closed for others.


They will also introduce a ‘trolley lock’ system to prevent unpaid groceries from leaving the store.

Moreover, Coles plans to equip 30 high-risk stores in multiple states with body-worn cameras to improve security and real-time monitoring of staff and customer interactions.

For the full story, please read more here.
Key Takeaways

  • Retail stores are using the tactic of placing mirrors at self-checkout stations in an attempt to prevent theft.
  • Various studies reveal that people are less likely to engage in negative behaviour when they can see their own reflection.
  • The presence of mirrors is said to activate private self-awareness in people, thereby influencing their decision-making and reducing impulsivity.
Members, what are your thoughts on this story? Could the presence of mirrors at self-checkout stations really deter theft and influence behaviour positively? Join the discussion in the comments below!
I go into Coles now just to give these "surveillance" gadgets the finger......
 
Two fingers extended are far more easily understood by us older Strayans, rather than resorting to the Yankeefied one-fingered one. Pity that the latter's become the norm in these www-infested days. As I say, it takes twice the brain and muscle power to do it our way rather than theirs. What does that say about the septics?
I go into Coles now just to give these "surveillance" gadgets the finger......
 
Two fingers extended are far more easily understood by us older Strayans, rather than resorting to the Yankeefied one-fingered one. Pity that the latter's become the norm in these www-infested days. As I say, it takes twice the brain and muscle power to do it our way rather than theirs. What does that say about the septics?
septics??
 
WW II slang -- look it up via Professor Google.
 
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