Brain tumour survivor slams Centrelink after support payments cut off mid-recovery

The journey to recovery from a major surgery is a courageous and challenging endeavour.

With each step forward comes a profound sense of resilience and determination, as individuals navigate the physical, emotional, and cognitive effects of their treatment.

Unfortunately for Australians relying on welfare services, hospitalisation doesn't always mean understanding and support from governmental agencies.



Mark (name changed) found himself in a dire situation where his Centrelink payments were halted while he was unable to fulfil his job-seeking obligations due to being in the hospital recuperating from a brain tumour surgery.

His jobseeker payments were suspended by his job agency in April 2023, despite submitting a medical certificate verifying his surgery.

A letter from Services Australia said his payment was ‘stopped from 14 April 2023 because you did not go to, or were late for an appointment arranged by your provider on 13 April 2023’.

There is no rule mandating employment agencies to communicate with their employees before halting their payments.


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While recovering from a brain tumour surgery, Mark’s Centrelink payments were cut off by his job agency in April 2023. Credits: Shutterstock



Despite Mark submitting a medical certificate to Services Australia citing his inability to meet his obligations due to undergoing surgery on 10 April, the payments were still suspended.

‘I ended up in hospital after the operation and then got a text message from [the job provider] saying they’ve cancelled my payments, which was really frustrating,’ Mark said.

The disheartening reality was that the medical certificate took weeks to process, while Mark faced six weeks without financial assistance during his recovery when clarity of thought and communication was impeded.

The suspension placed him in a vulnerable position with no funds to cover the basics such as food or a roof over his head—particularly problematic as he was also grappling with homelessness.

‘Technically, I was in hospital, but I was homeless. I was staying in short-term accommodation,’ he explained.

‘So I thought, “That’s all I need to have that cut off. How am I going to pay rent anywhere? Buy food?” It was just a kick in the guts I didn’t really need at the time.’

‘I had to try then, to call them back, then call the manager, and it just became a drawn-out process,’ he added.



Mark relocated to his sister's residence in regional Victoria to recover from the operation.

With her assistance, he reached out to Services Australia and applied for a medical exemption.

However, he expressed frustration, stating that his benefits should not have been terminated in the first place.

‘I think it’s overreaching,’ he said. ‘[Services Australia] have been given too much authority to cancel people’s payments without proper due diligence.’

He expresses gratitude for the current medical exemption but recalled, ‘it just wasn’t there’ when he needed it initially.



The concerns echoed by ACOSS Chief Executive, Cassandra Goldie, point to an immediate need for reform, saying the number of suspensions was ‘unconscionable’.

‘Each month, more than 80,000 people are threatened with loss of the income support that barely keeps them fed and housed, often due to oppressive automated systems that can make it impossible for people to meet their compliance obligations,’ she said.

Goldie added that the suspension of payments can cause immense mental distress and exacerbate the financial hardship of those already struggling.

‘It is long past time to end this harmful practice,' she declared as she called for the system to show compassion and consider individual circumstances rather than operate on an automatic suspension protocol that can unjustly cut off vital support.



Last year, the parliamentary review conducted on the government's primary employment services program, Workforce Australia, proposed discontinuing automated payment suspensions, and suggested that only officials at Centrelink should be authorised to suspend income support payments.

Tony Burke, Minister of the Department of Employment and Workforce Relations (DEWR), as well as Mark’s job agency, has yet to comment on Mark’s issue.

Last week, a spokesperson of the department said that less than 10 per cent, or 28,283 of suspensions, result in a pause in income and that the median duration is four business days.

When asked about the actions to ensure that all suspensions are valid, a spokesperson said, ‘The department works closely with all providers to ensure that client requirements are appropriate to their individual circumstances.’

‘We monitor [providers’] application of the Targeted Compliance Framework and continually engage with providers on how they are applying payment suspensions and demerits, and take action where it is identified that compliance has been incorrectly applied.’



Aside from this issue, another problem that frustrates Aussies is waiting endlessly on hold in Centrelink lines before they can seek assistance from the government.

However, a savvy social media user recently revealed a trick on how to navigate this problem. You can learn more about it here.

Key Takeaways
  • A jobseeker's Centrelink payments were suspended while he was recovering from brain surgery, despite submitting a medical certificate.
  • The case highlighted issues with automated suspension systems that can unfairly cut off welfare recipients without proper due diligence.
  • The Chief Executive of Australian Council of Social Service (ACOSS), Cassandra Goldie, criticised the current regime as oppressive, causing unnecessary stress and poverty among jobseekers.
  • A review recommended ceasing automated payment suspensions and giving the authority to suspend income support payments exclusively to Centrelink officials.

What is your take on Mark’s case? Have you also had problems with your Centrelink payments? Let us know in the comments below.
 
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I'm thinking he submitted the form on line but never contacted centrelink.

If you upload your certificate on line you still need to call centrelink and you will get through if you call early in the day.

I m still waiting on dsp and I need to call every 8 weeks I still submit my doctors certificates every 12 weeks.

It was 9 weeks and I was told I needed to attend a work thing with the job agency and there was no way I could work. I called centrelink and the approved the 8 weeks then the lady went in and approved the medical certificate cleating me for 12 weeks, she also called the job agency while I was on line.

I think there is more to this story. I'm guessing he never made contact with centrelink to get them to action the medical certificate.

Don't assume by uploading documents that they will automatically be actioned
I am pretty sure it is the job network agency appointment not the med cert - those 2 agencies do not advise each other about updated information - they rely on the person themselves doing this.
 
I agree with the need to review each case individually. I work daily with people from a huge and diverse range of challenges who are deemed to live 'independently'. Some are habitual breachers of Centrelink requirements and are cut off regularly. Often due to the persons lack of diligence and exacerbated by their addictions, mental health, or associations with people who lead them astray. And then, we get people who are cut off due to missing an appointment they didn't know about, because Centrelink sends one letter, and it has been 'lost in the system'. Surely the 'system' can recognise the difference between those trying to do the right thing, and those who are habitual offenders. Perhaps they should actually employ some people to oversee the flawed automatic system and put the 'human' back into 'human services'.
My apologies but i don't think they are concerned about the Human part of their service, it is all about saving monies and this includes having less workers to pay!
 
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Centrelink is a statutory authority and not a government department. There is a difference.

It sounds as if one more of John Howard's experiments in privatisation is failing the Australian public. To be expected as we are following the road ripped up by Margaret Thatcher.
 
I am teary, reading this...Centrelink stopped my Disability payment last year in October without any notification. I came upon this knowledge by accident, after setting up the confusing clunky myGov, MygovID, Services and Medicare files again. When I tried to ring the automated system, announces " You do not have a Disability payment, "and the system promptly cuts me off.
Of course, this has affected everything especially my housing rent, which is now a hefty debt. There has never been an explanation, so I am overwhelmed and cannot even start to fix it...
The water board announced to me.....that there had been a huge glitch at Centrelink in Late November, many of their customers had rung and announced this. Aagh...
I am pretty sure they have to send a letter stating why your payment has been stopped, you need to make contact with the c/link appeals section of c/link. A DSP is granted and will last for 2 yrs and then it gets reviewed every 2 yrs to see if the person is still entitled to recieve a DSP, but this is not done without you receiving any knowledge of an outcome (u should have received a form to fill in which will ask questions, in realtion to, if your medical conditions have changed, etc) - even without a glitch in their automated system - c/link needs a major overhaul starting with seeing pple as human beings, not just a monetary payment, which in most cases does not even keep a persons head above water, unless they are lucky enough to live in gov't housing where the rent is then subsidised to match the income coming in, all the best.
 
You cannot get through to Centrelink. I tried calling several times and had to give up after being on hold for an hour.
It's an irresponsible way for a service to deal with pple in crises & on low incomes, for the customer to then have to try and reach this service for the help they are needing! And a lot of times getting cut off and having to start again - no apologies given, or for the astonomical time waiting for the call to be answered in the first place!
 
Trying to contact the ATO is just as hard, my grandsons ATO account got unlinked from his myGov, by itself apparently. Despite multiple attempts to relink it we couldn’t get it to work. Ringing ATO we only ever got told “we are busy, ring back later” plonk the phone down. After visiting Centrelink and being given a card with ATO phone numbers we tried the indigenous line, got through in less than 5 minutes. Grandson gave them his full name, DOB, address, TFN. Person asked him a couple of questions he wasn’t sure about, his private health cover which he didn’t realise he was still covered by his fathers. He asked me, then was told she couldn’t identify him and because he asked me a couple of things wouldn’t give him a linking code and hung up. This annoyed me, so I rang back, got through quickly to another person and asked her what they need to identify someone. After telling her about the other call she spoke to my grandson, asked him the same ID questions plus his licence details and gave him a linking code. Finally after months we got his ATO linked to his myGov again and got his tax done. Some people really shouldn’t be working in these services.
Nor should one line be answered faster than another - possibly would have been easier to go into an ATO if living in a city that has one? or is it all on-line now!
 
Centrelink is a statutory authority and not a government department. There is a difference.

It sounds as if one more of John Howard's experiments in privatisation is failing the Australian public. To be expected as we are following the road ripped up by Margaret Thatcher.
And seem to think they are an authority unto themselves!
 
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Once words such as "service-provider" get invented, then you know you are dealing with bullshit nonsense.
 
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Uploading a document to Centrelink is fraught with danger. Where possible, submit any forms IN PERSON and get a reference number.

Even though a condition may be permanent, an SU415 form is only valid for a maximum of 12 weeks. Repeated submissions of these forms usually result in Centrelink contacting you suggesting you transfer from Jobseeker payments to the Disability Support Pension.
When you go to Centerlink, with your forms ..... they tell you to go sit at their computers, log on to your My.Cov account and upload your forms. They don't do it for you anymore. Those days are gone. You can just as well do it yourself at home on your computer.
 
Try calling at exactly 8am I always get through at this time and the longest I've waited is 35 minutes. I needed to call three times in the past week and got through each time . If you call later then yes it's hard to get through.

I have waited 80 minutes a few times but they did answer
Iv'e said that before, works everytime, iv'e even asked to be put through to a different department than the one I actually need and act dumb if they ask about it LOL
 
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A subsidiary of what was is now as Centrelink, formally known as Human Services is now morphed into Services Australia.

They removed the HUMAN for a reason since they now cater for the whims of sub humans. Camel jockeys, sand dwellers and coconut tree climbers.

For anyone who accuses me of being racist, news for you. I AM OVERTLY RACIST. And for good reason. Being called a w*g or an Aussie c**t by these pissweak imports doesn't sit well with me. All the way back to the early 1970s.

I can't wait for the limp wristed replies.



 
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Firstly, I never understand why people don't just contact their local Federal MP. The electoral staff have direct phone number to sort out issue on the spot. Secondly, it sounds more like the excessively over paid 'service (?) provider' is at fault, not Centrelink. Centrelink actions information from the (so called) service provider via a computer system. As a result of them putting through failure to attend an interview is the likely reason for his payments not being made. Thirdly, he now needs to make a formal complaint to the Dept of Govt that looks after these providers. But guarantee they won't. Only way for these systems to be streamlined is through intervention by the appropriate govt authority, NOT SOCIAL MEDIA.
I've had issues with Centrelink suspending my DSP and underpaying me over the Christmas break. When I went to see Centrelink they said they hadn't underpaid me - provided Centrelink and my local federal MP with a reconciliation of my payments and my bank accounts. Centrelink said they didn't look at bank statements and maintained they had paid me correctly. Local MP said, all they could do, was refer me to Centrelink, toothless bastards.
 
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I've had issues with Centrelink suspending my DSP and underpaying me over the Christmas break. When I went to see Centrelink they said they hadn't underpaid me - provided Centrelink and my local federal MP with a reconciliation of my payments and my bank accounts. Centrelink said they didn't look at bank statements and maintained they had paid me correctly. Local MP said, all they could do, was refer me to Centrelink, toothless bastards.
Mitry Lawyers here I come!!
 
Some years ago, retraining for work following a shoulder operation, l was sent to Job Agency with a Medical Certificate which stated, "Nothing above the shoulders." The first job the Agency wanted to send me to was filling shelves above shoulder height. I successfully refused the training on those grounds & went on to be placed on a DSP.

Are Centrelink Staff fully competent of the Regulations affecting processing of Unemployment, Sickness, Retirement & any other applications presented to them? If they don't know an answer l guess they possibly refer to a Supervisor or do they take a guess?

l don't use the Centrelink System any more but it would appear a huge overhall is overdue given we now have higher unemployment, an ageing population, benefits for younger people, more people seeking sickness benefits through no fault of their own BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO WEED OUT THE MELINGERERS & OTHERS CLAIMING BENEFITS THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO.

I cannot be sure what was wrong with the 30 ish aged gent l once saw walking along comfortably unaided by the crutch tucked under his arm, as l sat in the Surgeon's rooms @ Murdoch Hospital. Stopping long enough to have a cigarette he then continued, using the crutch, perhaps thinking he was in sight of witnesses, l believe to his appointment. I had to wonder if he was going to see a Specialist to "plead his case for more time off work & benefits".
 
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Surely a hospital social worker could have sorted it out for him. I’ve known it to happen
That would be a welfare officer, and he may not have said anything, he was having brain surgery and also was in recovery from surgery. He submitted, not sure when,
a medical certificate himself that he thought would and should have covered him.
 
I'm guessing the automated system is not monitored sufficiently due to lack of staff. Also I have found many "public servants" seem to be only there for their fortnightly pay. This is coming out of our taxes and they should be wholly and solely under an independent panel that can take on the job of reviewing all payments, in particular payments under medical situations. It is abhorrent that a "public service" organisation funded by tax payers can just use what is in essence AI to control payments without question. Not good enough.
 
Some years ago, retraining for work following a shoulder operation, l was sent to Job Agency with a Medical Certificate which stated, "Nothing above the shoulders." The first job the Agency wanted to send me to was filling shelves above shoulder height. I successfully refused the training on those grounds & went on to be placed on a DSP.

Are Centrelink Staff fully competent of the Regulations affecting processing of Unemployment, Sickness, Retirement & any other applications presented to them? If they don't know an answer l guess they possibly refer to a Supervisor or do they take a guess?

l don't use the Centrelink System any more but it would appear a huge overhall is overdue given we now have higher unemployment, an ageing population, benefits for younger people, more people seeking sickness benefits through no fault of their own BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO WEED OUT THE MELINGERERS & OTHERS CLAIMING BENEFITS THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO.

I cannot be sure what was wrong with the 30 ish aged gent l once saw walking along comfortably unaided by the crutch tucked under his arm, as l sat in the Surgeon's rooms @ Murdoch Hospital. Stopping long enough to have a cigarette he then continued, using the crutch, perhaps thinking he was in sight of witnesses, l believe to his appointment. I had to wonder if he was going to see a Specialist to "plead his case for more time off work & benefits".
Similar to my experience with a jnp. I went to them in 2014 requesting help obtaining work in a small office or similar. I have agoraphobia, anxiety and major depression officially diagnosed in 2005, However it’s been the majority of my life I’ve had it. I couldn’t even walk outside to my mailbox in 2009. So I believed I had come a long way to get the strength to approach them in the first place. They placed me in a mobile phone stand in a sales position in the middle of the local shopping centre. We only had two shopping centres where I lived so you can imagine how crowded that was. It was also Easter. I had wanted to work so badly to show myself and others that I’m not a drain on society because of my mental health. But this sent me backwards as you can imagine. I’m prepared to work again with a job provider because I’ll have the support if my mental health affects my job. I’ve been approved for an assessment from Centrelink to determine whether I can work or not so I can sign up with the JNP, however a time slot for the call hasn’t come up yet. I’ve been waiting since June last year and getting the runaround when I call… if I can get through.
 
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Similar to my experience with a jnp. I went to them in 2014 requesting help obtaining work in a small office or similar. I have agoraphobia, anxiety and major depression officially diagnosed in 2005, However it’s been the majority of my life I’ve had it. I couldn’t even walk outside to my mailbox in 2009. So I believed I had come a long way to get the strength to approach them in the first place. They placed me in a mobile phone stand in a sales position in the middle of the local shopping centre. We only had two shopping centres where I lived so you can imagine how crowded that was. It was also Easter. I had wanted to work so badly to show myself and others that I’m not a drain on society because of my mental health. But this sent me backwards as you can imagine. I’m prepared to work again with a job provider because I’ll have the support if my mental health affects my job. I’ve been approved for an assessment from Centrelink to determine whether I can work or not so I can sign up with the JNP, however a time slot for the call hasn’t come up yet. I’ve been waiting since June last year and getting the runaround when I call… if I can get through.
Like you l have had anxiety & major depression for a life time. I can understand how you felt being thrown in at the deep end. No consideration for you at all & all too common with these Agencies. This is awful for you because you are keen to move ahead but so far the support isn't there. 9 months is a long time waiting for an interview & being given the runaround doesn't help, does it? Perhaps you are in the 'Too hard basket" for them. Is your local Centrelink office within your Township & you could visit with the idea of giving them a shake up. The longer they stall the harder it will be to get a foothold because you are competing against other job seekers wanting retraining.

You have taken big steps to date @ Jen77au given your disposition. I am sure you will succeed in your endeavours, just don't let the System beat you. You have a goal. Strive for GOLD! 🙏
 
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