Authorities introduce scan zones in bustling areas—how will you adjust to drastic knife law changes?

As of this Friday, Western Australians will find themselves navigating the 'toughest' knife laws in the nation, a significant shift in legislation that aims to bolster community safety by granting police unprecedented powers to search for knives and other weapons.

But what does this mean for the average citizen, and how will these changes impact daily life in WA?

With harsher penalties for carrying prohibited items and increased police discretion in public areas, these laws are set to reshape how individuals approach personal safety and everyday activities.


The new laws empower police officers to use metal detectors to scan individuals of any age for knives and other weapons at any time and place without the need for suspicion of a crime.

This sweeping authority is part of the government's strategy to deter knife-related crimes and increase security in public spaces.

In Perth's five 'Protected Entertainment Precincts'—Perth/Northbridge, Scarborough, Fremantle, Hillarys, and Mandurah—officers can pull aside anyone for scanning.


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Western Australia's 'toughest' knife laws to be implemented, with police granted extra search powers. Credit: sturti / iStock


Additionally, police ranked Inspector and above can designate scan zones for up to 12 hours in publicly accessible areas such as shopping centres, train stations, and during community or sporting events.

The searches will be conducted using hand-held wands or traditional walk-through metal detectors.

The penalties for non-compliance are severe: selling an edged weapon to someone under 18 could result in up to three years in jail and a $36,000 fine.


If a scan indicates the presence of metal, police will request to see the item.

Refusal to comply or to reveal the metal object can lead to arrest, a search, and potentially a $12,000 fine or a year in prison.

Being found with an 'edged weapon' carries a penalty of up to three years in jail or a $36,000 fine.

However, there are exceptions for items needed for employment, lawful sport, recreation, entertainment, or for lawful collection purposes.

Notably, self-defence is not considered a legal reason to carry a knife.

These stringent laws were introduced amid heightened concerns over knife crime, highlighted by tragic incidents such as the Bondi Junction shopping centre stabbing and the murder of Petr Levkovskiy in WA.


While such events have captured public attention, the data on knife assaults leading to hospital admissions in WA has been declining over the last decade.

However, ambulance call-outs for stabbings have increased, encompassing a range of scenarios, including self-harm and accidental injuries.

Police Minister Paul Papalia cited these high-profile crimes as a driving force behind the new legislation, which draws parallels to Queensland's 'Jack's Law', enacted in 2021 after the fatal stabbing of teenager Jack Beasley.

Queensland's experience with these laws has seen 641 weapons confiscated from over 66,000 scans in 14 months, equating to a weapon found in approximately one in every 100 scans.

Dr Margo van Felius, a former detective and now a criminology lecturer at Griffith University, suggested that removing knives from the streets is a positive outcome and that community safety perceptions have improved.

Introducing these laws has sparked a debate over the balance between community safety and individual rights.


Dr van Felius acknowledges the 'inherent tension' in such legislation, which involves searching people without reasonable suspicion, potentially infringing on human rights.

The Griffith University review also raised concerns about 'net widening', where incidental findings during a weapons search, such as possession of small amounts of cannabis, could lead to additional charges.

Knowing your rights and the scope of these new laws is crucial as Western Australians adjust to these changes.

Whether heading out for a night on the town or simply commuting to work, understanding the potential for scans and searches is now part of the reality in WA.

The government and law enforcement agencies argue that these measures are necessary for public safety.

Still, citizens must stay informed and engaged in the conversation about how these laws are implemented and their impact on civil liberties.
Key Takeaways

  • Western Australia will implement what is described as the nation's 'toughest' knife laws, granting police extra powers to search for knives and other weapons.
  • Police officers can scan any individual with metal detectors in designated areas and during set times without suspicion of a crime.
  • Fines and penalties are set to increase significantly for carrying or selling edged weapons, with various circumstances under which carrying an edged weapon is permitted.
  • The effectiveness of such laws is debated, with some arguing they improve community safety while others highlight concerns about civil liberties and the potential for net widening.
Have you encountered a scan zone yet? Do you feel safer with these measures, or are you concerned about privacy and rights? Let us know in the comments below.
 

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I, &1000's of others, Carried a very sharp 2.5"/6cm folding pocket knife around nearly all my working life "Train Dvr, B.F.M" & beyond into retirement. Anywhere I went, so did the BUNNY, SCHRADE or BARLOW for peeling fruit, cutting bindings, gutting rabbits or putting animals down because of injury ETC. I carried it in my pocket or in a proper scabbard on my belt, tool of the trade, all gone now because Parents have had the power to discipline their children, from an early age, taken away from them by FUCK witted Laws bought in by BIGGER FUCK witted, FUCKIN do gooder politicians.
And I will not apologize for the expressive's.
Exactly!
And the only people these powers will affect are the innocent law abiding person that carries a small pocket knife for many reasons.
The African youth running around with Machetes will not be the least bit concerned and even if caught will only get a slap on the wrist and released to offend again.
But if you the honest law abiding citizen refuses to be searched you will be hit with a $12,000 fine or 1 year in jail.
Just another law all about Government and Police control taking away our freedom!
 
Exactly!
And the only people these powers will affect are the innocent law abiding person that carries a small pocket knife for many reasons.
The African youth running around with Machetes will not be the least bit concerned and even if caught will only get a slap on the wrist and released to offend again.
But if you the honest law abiding citizen refuses to be searched you will be hit with a $12,000 fine or 1 year in jail.
Just another law all about Government and Police control taking away our freedom!
And while we have absolute power tripping morons like Paul Papalia running the show we are going to have to put up with this BS.
 
Hmmm, first WA lets in a whole lot of immigrants, then some knife crimes occur, then they use their immigration laws against the people to further overreach and take control. It's a NO from me
 
Exactly!
And the only people these powers will affect are the innocent law abiding person that carries a small pocket knife for many reasons.
The African youth running around with Machetes will not be the least bit concerned and even if caught will only get a slap on the wrist and released to offend again.
But if you the honest law abiding citizen refuses to be searched you will be hit with a $12,000 fine or 1 year in jail.
Just another law all about Government and Police control taking away our freedom!
Sadly that's always the case, the innocent suffer because of the guilty! :(
 
I, &1000's of others, Carried a very sharp 2.5"/6cm folding pocket knife around nearly all my working life "Train Dvr, B.F.M" & beyond into retirement. Anywhere I went, so did the BUNNY, SCHRADE or BARLOW for peeling fruit, cutting bindings, gutting rabbits or putting animals down because of injury ETC. I carried it in my pocket or in a proper scabbard on my belt, tool of the trade, all gone now because Parents have had the power to discipline their children, from an early age, taken away from them by FUCK witted Laws bought in by BIGGER FUCK witted, FUCKIN do gooder politicians.
And I will not apologize for the expressive's.
Yes, Yes, Yes! But you missed one - parents today want to be their childrens friend and we all know how friends when you are young lead you astray! And NO is a dirty word.
 
Knife laws have been around for years, just in a different form.

Generally under the law of "carrying an offensive weapon" or "the use of a controlled weapon".

Over 25 years ago, my next door neighbour was arrested for "carrying an offensive weapon". He had a fishing knife on him. The strange thing was he was fishing at Circular Quay!
 
I, &1000's of others, Carried a very sharp 2.5"/6cm folding pocket knife around nearly all my working life "Train Dvr, B.F.M" & beyond into retirement. Anywhere I went, so did the BUNNY, SCHRADE or BARLOW for peeling fruit, cutting bindings, gutting rabbits or putting animals down because of injury ETC. I carried it in my pocket or in a proper scabbard on my belt, tool of the trade, all gone now because Parents have had the power to discipline their children, from an early age, taken away from them by FUCK witted Laws bought in by BIGGER FUCK witted, FUCKIN do gooder politicians.
And I will not apologize for the expressive's.
How many rabbits needed guttering, strapping needed to be cut, animals needed to be put down while walking around in the cities and towns that you need to carry a knife around. You are just a pig headed old man that doesn't like to be told what to do or have your toys taken away. Your rant borders on ridiculous.
 
Hopefully Swiss Army Knives, other multitools, and other simple, useful folding knives that were even given out to boy scouts in the 1950's-60's will be exempt. Having your little folding pocketknife in its pouch on your belt (often right next to your pocket-watch in its leather pouch as well) has been a big part of rural life for many older Australians for many decades. It' just part of life. Next, they'll be removing the "That's not a knife, THAT'S a knife" scene from Crocodile Dundee for being a 'bad influence'.
 
Interesting facts to de-bunk the "this didn't happen in my day" delusions:-
*References to a Queensland "crime wave", "crime epidemic", and "crime crisis" can be found in local newspapers from as early as the 1850s.
*On September 21, 1894, the Moreton Mail declares that a "crime wave is sweeping the land. People are cutting the throats of their sweethearts and wives, and poleaxing their infants, and gunning their enemies with marvellous enthusiasm".
*On July 19, 1923, the Warwick Daily News said Queensland was experiencing an "epidemic of crime", shortly after the Spanish Flu epidemic had swept through Australia.
*Newspapers frequently compared their crime-ridden present with an imagined peaceful past.
An editorial entitled, "Wave of crime", in the 1930, December 9 edition of The Telegraph expressed a nostalgia for the days before Queensland was overrun by criminals.
*The Young Christian Workers' Movement in a 1964 episode of ABC's Four Corners expressed fears that girlie magazines were corrupting the morality of Brisbane's youth.
*A Brisbane Telegraph article on November 27, 1954, blames comic books and sordid films for creating a generation of heartless criminal youngsters.

I could go on....LOL
 
Interesting facts to de-bunk the "this didn't happen in my day" delusions:-
*References to a Queensland "crime wave", "crime epidemic", and "crime crisis" can be found in local newspapers from as early as the 1850s.
*On September 21, 1894, the Moreton Mail declares that a "crime wave is sweeping the land. People are cutting the throats of their sweethearts and wives, and poleaxing their infants, and gunning their enemies with marvellous enthusiasm".
*On July 19, 1923, the Warwick Daily News said Queensland was experiencing an "epidemic of crime", shortly after the Spanish Flu epidemic had swept through Australia.
*Newspapers frequently compared their crime-ridden present with an imagined peaceful past.
An editorial entitled, "Wave of crime", in the 1930, December 9 edition of The Telegraph expressed a nostalgia for the days before Queensland was overrun by criminals.
*The Young Christian Workers' Movement in a 1964 episode of ABC's Four Corners expressed fears that girlie magazines were corrupting the morality of Brisbane's youth.
*A Brisbane Telegraph article on November 27, 1954, blames comic books and sordid films for creating a generation of heartless criminal youngsters.

I could go on....LOL
You could go back as far as Attila the Hun, the Crusades and the Vandals. o_O

Crime wasn't invented in 2024.
 
Interesting facts to de-bunk the "this didn't happen in my day" delusions:-
*References to a Queensland "crime wave", "crime epidemic", and "crime crisis" can be found in local newspapers from as early as the 1850s.
*On September 21, 1894, the Moreton Mail declares that a "crime wave is sweeping the land. People are cutting the throats of their sweethearts and wives, and poleaxing their infants, and gunning their enemies with marvellous enthusiasm".
*On July 19, 1923, the Warwick Daily News said Queensland was experiencing an "epidemic of crime", shortly after the Spanish Flu epidemic had swept through Australia.
*Newspapers frequently compared their crime-ridden present with an imagined peaceful past.
An editorial entitled, "Wave of crime", in the 1930, December 9 edition of The Telegraph expressed a nostalgia for the days before Queensland was overrun by criminals.
*The Young Christian Workers' Movement in a 1964 episode of ABC's Four Corners expressed fears that girlie magazines were corrupting the morality of Brisbane's youth.
*A Brisbane Telegraph article on November 27, 1954, blames comic books and sordid films for creating a generation of heartless criminal youngsters.

I could go on....LOL
I don't really think carrying a useful little fruit knife or Swiss Army knife in a clip-up pouch on your belt is quite the same as a 'crime wave'. Crime waves will happen with or without the right to carry your granddads old pocketknife on your belt taken away. But I'm hoping the police would be sensible enough to ignore those old Aussie values because small pocketknives for peeling fruit, opening cartons, cutting string, or a myriad of other uses are just part of everyday life for a lot of people.

But I DO agree that carrying large, concealed, fixed-blade hunting knives, machetes, Samurai/Ninja and even carving knives in public areas is a sign of criminal intent rather than day-to-day usefulness. It's just a case of common sense by police conducting scans and searches.
 
Well bugger me! But we are so good at inventing new biases as an adjunct to the age old run of the mill rubbish.
 
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HOW ABOUT bringing in a law, to MAKE ALL SHOPS/ PREMISES, that DISPLAY KNIFES to PLACE ALL SUCH WEAPONS BEHIND SECURITY SCREENS. ( that MIGHT BE A START). there is a saying.............DONT TEMPT FATE..
 

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