Australians outraged: Is this beloved Aussie saying now considered 'tone deaf'? Find out why it's causing a fierce debate!

The phrase 'the lucky country' has long been a term of endearment for Australia, a nod to the nation's abundant natural resources, enviable lifestyle, and perceived opportunities for prosperity. However, a recent online debate has sparked controversy over whether this cherished Aussie expression is now out of touch with the current economic climate and the struggles faced by many Australians.


An Italian expatriate's Reddit post praising Australia for its lifestyle and opportunities has ignited a fierce debate among Australians. The expat, who found success after moving to Australia, shared stories of friends who also achieved the Australian dream of homeownership and financial stability. These anecdotes were meant to illustrate that despite negative sentiments about the government and the country's direction, Australia still offers a path to a good life.


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Fierce debate was ignited by an Italian expat's Reddit post praising Australia as a lucky country amid the cost-of-living crisis. Credit: Reddit


One friend, Gennaro, arrived from Italy with minimal English and just $1,000 to his name. He eventually bought a house in Sydney's Wolli Creek through farm work and a construction job. Another, Fabio, obtained his electrician's license after studying at TAFE and purchased homes in Botany and Perth. Roberto, who built a career in hospitality, secured a home for his family within nine years of arriving in Australia.


These success stories, however, were met with scepticism and criticism from other Reddit users. Many Australians feel that the expat's view is 'tone deaf' to the realities of the current cost-of-living crisis. Critics argue that the opportunities that existed a decade or two ago are no longer available, and the anecdotes do not reflect the statistical evidence showing Australia's declining economic conditions over the past 20 years.

The debate highlights a stark divide in perceptions of Australia's economic health. While some still see the country as a land of opportunity, others point to the soaring cost of living, unaffordable housing market, and infrastructure constraints as signs that the 'lucky country' may be running out of luck.

Inflation rates have soared, with a 7.8 per cent increase in December 2022, and the Reserve Bank has raised the cash rate multiple times since May 2022. The cost of groceries has also risen sharply, with major supermarkets like Coles and Woolworths reporting a 9.6 per cent price hike over the past year. The median home value in Australia is $872,000, with Sydney's median home price reaching an eye-watering $1.45 million.


The influx of migrants has further compounded these issues, with a record 518,000 people moving to Australia in the 2022-23 financial year, exacerbating the strain on infrastructure and housing.

Despite the challenges, some Australians maintain a positive outlook, arguing that compared to many other countries, Australians still enjoy a high quality of life. They believe that hard work can still lead to success and that the country's advantages should not be taken for granted.

This debate raises important questions about the Australian identity and the nation's evolving challenges. Is the term 'the lucky country' still relevant, or has it become a relic of a bygone era? How can Australia address the growing concerns over affordability and quality of life while preserving the optimism that has long been a part of its national character?

Key Takeaways
  • An Italian expat's Reddit post praising Australia as the lucky country has ignited a fierce debate over the nation's cost-of-living crisis.
  • Despite positive examples of migrants thriving in Australia, many locals argue the opportunities that existed 10-20 years ago no longer exist amid high property prices and the current economic climate.
  • The Reserve Bank's interest rate decisions and inflation have significantly impacted the cost of living, including surges in grocery prices at major supermarkets.
  • Australia's property market remains unaffordable for many, with Sydney being the most expensive city and continued population growth posing challenges for infrastructure.
We invite our readers, especially those who have lived through Australia's changes over the years, to share their thoughts and experiences. Has the Australian dream changed for you? Do you believe Australia is still a lucky country, or has that luck run out? Join the conversation and let us know in the comments below.
 

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Yes, Australia has changed. We are now run by a minority "touchy-feely" group who are telling us what to think, do and say, while they stamp around in their fake "welcome to country" acts that no aboriginal tribe/mob ever had. Do you really think that whichever people take us over in the near future are going to put up with this? As I was told recently in China, if you object there are "plenty more people who will be too frightened to".
Don't bring the aboriginals into this, they get enough benefits that some of us don't get but they want more, it should be equal across the board!
 
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The only reason it is no longer the lucky country, is that like all other (for the want of a better word) white/european countries, it is taking in supposed refugees and then changing laws to suit them. Aussie born and long term legal immigrants are now by and large second class citizens. Up until the late 80's the Poms, Greeks, Italians and Asian settlers adapted to Australian life and laws, no claims of unfairness from locals, all were "Head down, arse up" hard workers. Now look everyone has to convert to the needs of the new incomers, don't say or do anything to upset them. Gone from no knife crime to violence like never before, machetes daggers and even guns are now the norm with the somali/nigerian mobs. Don't call racism, i am just stating fact.
Agree, well said, has become ridiculous!
 
Well, we are a better country because of our welfare system.
But as we know, it is open to abuse. This is being manipulated by those who do not want to work, work a part time job & collect welfare or are able to convince their Doctor they cannot work, although they are otherwise, & collect welfare.
I watched a chap at Murdoch Hospital about 12 months ago who l believed was going for an appointment with a specialist. He carried his crutches as he walked & thinking he was out of view stopped & had a cigarette. Having finished that he proceeded towards the Hospital on crutches. Strange he was walking very well before his cigarette but needed crutches to continue to this appointment after this, wouldn't you agree? This person was in his 30's l believe. I have a 19 y.o. grandson who has had a good job but threw it in, telling his parents there was no work & his employer he was sick. He convinced his father he wanted to leave school before the exams in what was, at that time, Year 10. He has no intention of getting a job & has been on the Dole for over 3 years.
AHH. THANK GOODNESS FOR OUR WELFARE SYSTEM EH?
How many of our immigrants from a certain country have 2 families in Australia in 2 homes with 2 families collecting Benefits while Hubi spends his time at his church driving the bus taking children to their school? It is happening!
AGAIN OUR WELFARE SYSTEM BEING EXPLOITED!
 
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The only reason it is no longer the lucky country, is that like all other (for the want of a better word) white/european countries, it is taking in supposed refugees and then changing laws to suit them. Aussie born and long term legal immigrants are now by and large second class citizens. Up until the late 80's the Poms, Greeks, Italians and Asian settlers adapted to Australian life and laws, no claims of unfairness from locals, all were "Head down, arse up" hard workers. Now look everyone has to convert to the needs of the new incomers, don't say or do anything to upset them. Gone from no knife crime to violence like never before, machetes daggers and even guns are now the norm with the somali/nigerian mobs. Don't call racism, i am just stating fact.
Totally agree Twiz. The white Australia policy saw these cultures you mentioned. They were happy to settle here and integrate with the Australian way of life, abiding by our laws. The cultures we see coming in today are arrogrant, lawless thugs. Scam every wellfare system from child day care centres to setting up vehicle accidents to claim insurance compensation. (they expanded from fraudlent back claims) These are the crime bosses of underworld syndicates and criminal motorcycle gangs that are murdering each other on our streets.
Our age group has definetly seen the best Australia had to offer
 
But as we know, it is open to abuse. This is being manipulated by those who do not want to work, work a part time job & collect welfare or are able to convince their Doctor they cannot work, although they are otherwise, & collect welfare.
I watched a chap at Murdoch Hospital about 12 months ago who l believed was going for an appointment with a specialist. He carried his crutches as he walked & thinking he was out of view stopped & had a cigarette. Having finished that he proceeded towards the Hospital on crutches. Strange he was walking very well before his cigarette but needed crutches to continue to this appointment after this, wouldn't you agree? This person was in his 30's l believe. I have a 19 y.o. grandson who has had a good job but threw it in, telling his parents there was no work & his employer he was sick. He convinced his father he wanted to leave school before the exams in what was, at that time, Year 10. He has no intention of getting a job & has been on the Dole for over 3 years.
AHH. THANK GOODNESS FOR OUR WELFARE SYSTEM EH?
How many of our immigrants from a certain country have 2 families in Australia in 2 homes with 2 families collecting Benefits while Hubi spends his time at his church driving the bus taking children to their school? It is happening!
AGAIN OUR WELFARE SYSTEM BEING EXPLOITED!
I'd prefer our system, despite the lack of political will to deal with exploitation and inconsistencies, to that of the USA! Now, that's one seriously-munted clusterfuck!
 
But as we know, it is open to abuse. This is being manipulated by those who do not want to work, work a part time job & collect welfare or are able to convince their Doctor they cannot work, although they are otherwise, & collect welfare.
I watched a chap at Murdoch Hospital about 12 months ago who l believed was going for an appointment with a specialist. He carried his crutches as he walked & thinking he was out of view stopped & had a cigarette. Having finished that he proceeded towards the Hospital on crutches. Strange he was walking very well before his cigarette but needed crutches to continue to this appointment after this, wouldn't you agree? This person was in his 30's l believe. I have a 19 y.o. grandson who has had a good job but threw it in, telling his parents there was no work & his employer he was sick. He convinced his father he wanted to leave school before the exams in what was, at that time, Year 10. He has no intention of getting a job & has been on the Dole for over 3 years.
AHH. THANK GOODNESS FOR OUR WELFARE SYSTEM EH?
How many of our immigrants from a certain country have 2 families in Australia in 2 homes with 2 families collecting Benefits while Hubi spends his time at his church driving the bus taking children to their school? It is happening!
AGAIN OUR WELFARE SYSTEM BEING EXPLOITED!
“…He carried his crutches as he walked & thinking he was out of view stopped & had a cigarette…” A huge number of assumptions you make with this analogy - with no facts…very judgy!

There is allowance made for error in every calculation - nothing and no-one is perfect, unless, of course, you think we should all be microchipped and scrutinised every minute of the day and activities recorded…? Everything is open to abuse and guess what - everything is abused…by what some deem as ‘fine upstanding people - pillars of our society’, just as much as all the ‘others’ (i.e. everything in between). Who can say what makes a criminal (of any sort or style of depravity)? The same set of parents can have 5 offspring - all very different abilities and different moral compass/es…(certainly seems very cruel and divisive modeling IMO). While I do not have the answer to a perfect system (and no-one does), I am of the view that welfare is the best option, not only on humanitarian terms, also the fact that all other resources will pay a price no-one can afford - e.g. police services, health services and including our pretty comfortable way of life…i.e. it would cost much more to not. People should refresh their memories of how we treated Chinese and Italian and Greek immigrants back in the day. We also blamed them for all the crime. Now we have others to disparage and blame for everything (and wrongly so). Perhaps you should read about the Mafia, Asian Organised Crime and others - firmly entrenched in our society? Plenty of homegrown nasties, The Russell Street bombing, Whiskey Au Go Go firebombing…the bikies - back in the 60s they were Aussies and most certainly doing much the same as now to a degree. My point is that there is always bad with the good... can't judge any ethnicity because some are bad - we all have 'em.
 
Don't bring the aboriginals into this, they get enough benefits that some of us don't get but they want more, it should be equal across the board!
Hmmm…and maybe we should make it equal across the board when it comes to taxpayer funded health care? I though the system worked so well because those who could afford and paid taxes toward medicare to cover the cost of those unfortunate ones who had bad luck with health…even if they drunk themselves into sickness?
Not saying you are wrong, but what do indigenous Australians get that 'we' don't?
 
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“…He carried his crutches as he walked & thinking he was out of view stopped & had a cigarette…” A huge number of assumptions you make with this analogy - with no facts…very judgy!

There is allowance made for error in every calculation - nothing and no-one is perfect, unless, of course, you think we should all be microchipped and scrutinised every minute of the day and activities recorded…? Everything is open to abuse and guess what - everything is abused…by what some deem as ‘fine upstanding people - pillars of our society’, just as much as all the ‘others’ (i.e. everything in between). Who can say what makes a criminal (of any sort or style of depravity)? The same set of parents can have 5 offspring - all very different abilities and different moral compass/es…(certainly seems very cruel and divisive modeling IMO). While I do not have the answer to a perfect system (and no-one does), I am of the view that welfare is the best option, not only on humanitarian terms, also the fact that all other resources will pay a price no-one can afford - e.g. police services, health services and including our pretty comfortable way of life…i.e. it would cost much more to not. People should refresh their memories of how we treated Chinese and Italian and Greek immigrants back in the day. We also blamed them for all the crime. Now we have others to disparage and blame for everything (and wrongly so). Perhaps you should read about the Mafia, Asian Organised Crime and others - firmly entrenched in our society? Plenty of homegrown nasties, The Russell Street bombing, Whiskey Au Go Go firebombing…the bikies - back in the 60s they were Aussies and most certainly doing much the same as now to a degree. My point is that there is always bad with the good... can't judge any ethnicity because some are bad - we all have 'em.
Perhaps l should have stated l was 4 floors up in the consulting room of a Specialist Surgeon, who had left the room for a few minutes & my attention was drawn to an individual, not wearing camouflaged dress, who walked normally while carrying a pair of crutches under his right arm. As l watched, he walked approx 10 metres & stopped for a smoke in front of some tall bushes which made him unseen at ground level. Finishing his smoke he continued towards the hospital where l was on the crutches he had carried under his arm.

NO ROOM FOR ASSUMPTIONS HERE, l believe. To write all the above would seem to be a waste of space, l thought but these are the facts as l know them.

Seeing an article posted by a member which covers half a column in depth is the sort of article l normally skip over Knell unless l can see something of interest in the subject.
Do you know what l mean Knell?
 
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I'd prefer our system, despite the lack of political will to deal with exploitation and inconsistencies, to that of the USA! Now, that's one seriously-munted clusterfuck!
Does the USA really have a Welfare system? As we are aware, many other countries like China have no welfare system at all. Is it any wonder we get so many immigrants?
 
Perhaps l should have stated l was 4 floors up in the consulting room of a Specialist Surgeon, who had left the room for a few minutes & my attention was drawn to an individual, not wearing camouflaged dress, who walked normally while carrying a pair of crutches under his right arm. As l watched, he walked approx 10 metres & stopped for a smoke in front of some tall bushes which made him unseen at ground level. Finishing his smoke he continued towards the hospital where l was on the crutches he had carried under his arm.

NO ROOM FOR ASSUMPTIONS HERE, l believe. To write all the above would seem to be a waste of space, l thought but these are the facts as l know them.

Seeing an article posted by a member which covers half a column in depth is the sort of article l normally skip over Knell unless l can see something of interest in the subject.
Do you know what l mean Knell?
"Do you know what l mean Knell?" Yeah, I know exactly what you mean Sir! Was my reply to yours a few sentences longer - did you count, just to make sure?
(“Not wearing camouflaged dress”) - LOL. Hope the gent wasn't there for a colon check or something else LOL...did you check his Social Security status?....ah yes...the all know all seeing here on earth ...keep up the good work!
 
"Do you know what l mean Knell?" Yeah, I know exactly what you mean Sir! Was my reply to yours a few sentences longer - did you count, just to make sure?
(“Not wearing camouflaged dress”) - LOL. Hope the gent wasn't there for a colon check or something else LOL...did you check his Social Security status?....ah yes...the all know all seeing here on earth ...keep up the good work.
Thanks. I will keep up what you consider to be good work.
This person would of course have gone unnoticed had the specialist not left the room prior to my observation.
Why would l count your sentences? Sounds like something someone who finds fault in every person's comments would do. Know what l mean?
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, should they?
 
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Letting me know that was my entitlement which was supposed to help you find work, not sit on tour arse.
I BELIEVE YOUR STATEMENT IS SUPPOSED TO READ 'YOUR ARSE' NOT ' TOUR ARSE'?

At 72 years of age, 73 in February, l have no intention of looking for work.

PERHAPS YOU SHOULD MAKE YOURSELF AWARE OF ALL THE FACTS BEFORE MAKING STUPID STATEMENTS, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? (and do spelling checks before publishing).
 
I BELIEVE YOUR STATEMENT IS SUPPOSED TO READ 'YOUR ARSE' NOT ' TOUR ARSE'?

At 72 years of age, 73 in February, l have no intention of looking for work.

PERHAPS YOU SHOULD MAKE YOURSELF AWARE OF ALL THE FACTS BEFORE MAKING STUPID STATEMENTS, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? (and do spelling checks before publishing).
Ah another one inebriated in the exiberance of their verbosity?
 

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