Australians outraged: Is this beloved Aussie saying now considered 'tone deaf'? Find out why it's causing a fierce debate!

The phrase 'the lucky country' has long been a term of endearment for Australia, a nod to the nation's abundant natural resources, enviable lifestyle, and perceived opportunities for prosperity. However, a recent online debate has sparked controversy over whether this cherished Aussie expression is now out of touch with the current economic climate and the struggles faced by many Australians.


An Italian expatriate's Reddit post praising Australia for its lifestyle and opportunities has ignited a fierce debate among Australians. The expat, who found success after moving to Australia, shared stories of friends who also achieved the Australian dream of homeownership and financial stability. These anecdotes were meant to illustrate that despite negative sentiments about the government and the country's direction, Australia still offers a path to a good life.


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Fierce debate was ignited by an Italian expat's Reddit post praising Australia as a lucky country amid the cost-of-living crisis. Credit: Reddit


One friend, Gennaro, arrived from Italy with minimal English and just $1,000 to his name. He eventually bought a house in Sydney's Wolli Creek through farm work and a construction job. Another, Fabio, obtained his electrician's license after studying at TAFE and purchased homes in Botany and Perth. Roberto, who built a career in hospitality, secured a home for his family within nine years of arriving in Australia.


These success stories, however, were met with scepticism and criticism from other Reddit users. Many Australians feel that the expat's view is 'tone deaf' to the realities of the current cost-of-living crisis. Critics argue that the opportunities that existed a decade or two ago are no longer available, and the anecdotes do not reflect the statistical evidence showing Australia's declining economic conditions over the past 20 years.

The debate highlights a stark divide in perceptions of Australia's economic health. While some still see the country as a land of opportunity, others point to the soaring cost of living, unaffordable housing market, and infrastructure constraints as signs that the 'lucky country' may be running out of luck.

Inflation rates have soared, with a 7.8 per cent increase in December 2022, and the Reserve Bank has raised the cash rate multiple times since May 2022. The cost of groceries has also risen sharply, with major supermarkets like Coles and Woolworths reporting a 9.6 per cent price hike over the past year. The median home value in Australia is $872,000, with Sydney's median home price reaching an eye-watering $1.45 million.


The influx of migrants has further compounded these issues, with a record 518,000 people moving to Australia in the 2022-23 financial year, exacerbating the strain on infrastructure and housing.

Despite the challenges, some Australians maintain a positive outlook, arguing that compared to many other countries, Australians still enjoy a high quality of life. They believe that hard work can still lead to success and that the country's advantages should not be taken for granted.

This debate raises important questions about the Australian identity and the nation's evolving challenges. Is the term 'the lucky country' still relevant, or has it become a relic of a bygone era? How can Australia address the growing concerns over affordability and quality of life while preserving the optimism that has long been a part of its national character?

Key Takeaways
  • An Italian expat's Reddit post praising Australia as the lucky country has ignited a fierce debate over the nation's cost-of-living crisis.
  • Despite positive examples of migrants thriving in Australia, many locals argue the opportunities that existed 10-20 years ago no longer exist amid high property prices and the current economic climate.
  • The Reserve Bank's interest rate decisions and inflation have significantly impacted the cost of living, including surges in grocery prices at major supermarkets.
  • Australia's property market remains unaffordable for many, with Sydney being the most expensive city and continued population growth posing challenges for infrastructure.
We invite our readers, especially those who have lived through Australia's changes over the years, to share their thoughts and experiences. Has the Australian dream changed for you? Do you believe Australia is still a lucky country, or has that luck run out? Join the conversation and let us know in the comments below.
 

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Hhhm gotta wonder! There are so many more hidden/silent/sneaky expenses these days that i had never had to deal with 20 yrs ago- we all experience these I'm sure & mostly have to pay these i'm sure- taxes alone (so many more different taxes that we never had to deal with, & levvies, excises, etc on everything- would be interesting to add just these up over the course of a year- amazing we aren't taxed to poop -yet!!), service fees & charges & surcharges, admin fees, account fees, bank fees, insurances, etc - so many things that never used to cost us that now we are paying for!

Whilst I'm 63yo & think I've /we've seen a lot of the best times (tho my dad said the same about his generation), i would say it's definitely harder for my adult kids to get ahead (one is on good income & is buying a home but finds it tough & the other would like to, but even on fitters wages is going to find it extremely tough to afford anything!
We seem to be good at looking after the new immigrants quick smart for housing, etc, but there are so many here homeless & cant get housing even tho they are working hard & often middle income earners!

Crime is out of control, seems we can be fined big bucks for silly stuff (traffic/driving offences, civil offences, breaking council rules/laws- like being fined for leaving our bins out longer than a day- seriously, yet the real crimials (aggrivated burglars, car thieves, domestic violence offenders, drug addicts, etc get our on bail & continue to offend!

Australia is absolutely disgraceful compared to how it once was!
And whose is that? ultimately it's ours for putting idiotic bastard politicians into power bloody power (they proved they couldn't handle in the first place) I came here in the late fifties, straight into Nissan Huts with Masonite interiors as hot as a bastard on a sunny day, cold as buggery during rain. Arrived in the hostel early moved into house early September same year. I stayed for a couple and then the wanderlust returned, after that I only saw the family sporadically until 81 when I returned with my family, bought a house and the rest as they say is history.
 
It's a non-question. The phrase originated, I believe, during the days when sheep and wool carried Australia's economic wealth and wellbeing. Those days are gone. The key features which moulded the Australian myth - a fair go and egalitarianism (for white people) - have long ago evaporated in favour of the "me" generation, individual profiteering, and CEOs on obscene salaries many hundreds of times more than the people whose hard work creates company wealth.

I wouldn't say the term "lucky country" is so much offensive as risible in the extreme. Lucky for some would be more like it!
 
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was born in the early fifty's when hard work was rewarded hours where long but the weekend was SO GREAT you got 2 weeks holi a year and lived it up now days it seems that to be working in one place for more than 10 years is not heard of a lot, you could work for many years in one place and you got looked after rewarded not these days, not these days they bury your job description so deep you can not find it then make you redundant and replace you with a junour, now multi national companies buying out there smaller company competition, loyalty does not exciste any more, we could live with our neighbor no problem be them Greek, Italian etc what ever you spoke over the fence traded drinks over the fence mowed each other's front lawn and keeped a eye on things when they not at home THE LUCKY COUNTRY
Not any more you live day to day in fear of who may be at the door and trying to gain entry into what if you stop them you is in more trouble than them and they are doing armed rubbery etc luck country NO NOT NOW but you look at where our Governments live and you will not find any of there imports living next door to them or even in the same neighborhood the lucky country NO NOT ANY MORE
These incomers do as they please here lucky country for them here in there country they would be shot on sight here we give them a warm bed for the night feed them, then let them out on bail to do all over again ?? there is seriously something wrong with this country these days and our polies could not give a rats ass about just elecet me so I can tell a lot of bull do sweet bugger all and get double the wage of a hard working tradey the lucky country no its gone, may be a lucky country for those coming in as a refugee its better than where they come from then they bring there wars and crape with them the luck country no not any more
 
I am 72 years old and I grew up in the '60s to 80s. I remember a time when you applied for a job as one of 6 applications you made in one week and you usually were working within 2 to 3 days. Wages were astonishingly low and in my first position, I only took home $32 per week. However, 4 years later, when I bought my first 3 bedroom Brick veneer house on a full quarter acre of land, there was change left over from $20,000. Petrol was 44 cents a Gallon ( about 10c per litre ) and hamburger was 30c and all of this was within the reach of an ordinary Australian.
This was the lucky country.
It was a place where everybody stood a chance, where anything was possible, not easy, but possible. People always worked with and for each other. Families were important and life fell into a social pattern which was available to everyone.

What have WE encouraged THEM to do to it now ?
I can clearly remember that filling up holden cars, late'59 into the '60's, it cost 1pound to fill the tank up.
Ahh, "Them's" were the good days.
 
was born in the early fifty's when hard work was rewarded hours where long but the weekend was SO GREAT you got 2 weeks holi a year and lived it up now days it seems that to be working in one place for more than 10 years is not heard of a lot, you could work for many years in one place and you got looked after rewarded not these days, not these days they bury your job description so deep you can not find it then make you redundant and replace you with a junour, now multi national companies buying out there smaller company competition, loyalty does not exciste any more, we could live with our neighbor no problem be them Greek, Italian etc what ever you spoke over the fence traded drinks over the fence mowed each other's front lawn and keeped a eye on things when they not at home THE LUCKY COUNTRY
Not any more you live day to day in fear of who may be at the door and trying to gain entry into what if you stop them you is in more trouble than them and they are doing armed rubbery etc luck country NO NOT NOW but you look at where our Governments live and you will not find any of there imports living next door to them or even in the same neighborhood the lucky country NO NOT ANY MORE
These incomers do as they please here lucky country for them here in there country they would be shot on sight here we give them a warm bed for the night feed them, then let them out on bail to do all over again ?? there is seriously something wrong with this country these days and our polies could not give a rats ass about just elecet me so I can tell a lot of bull do sweet bugger all and get double the wage of a hard working tradey the lucky country no its gone, may be a lucky country for those coming in as a refugee its better than where they come from then they bring there wars and crape with them the luck country no not any more
Hi Monks,
You put quite a bit of thought into your posting.
All so very true & correct.
Good work indeed & it's probably the thoughts of every dinki di Aussie as well.
 
Yes, Australia has changed. We are now run by a minority "touchy-feely" group who are telling us what to think, do and say, while they stamp around in their fake "welcome to country" acts that no aboriginal tribe/mob ever had. Do you really think that whichever people take us over in the near future are going to put up with this? As I was told recently in China, if you object there are "plenty more people who will be too frightened to".
 
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Our lucky country started to lose it's shine decades ago. The lucky part referred to there being jobs up for grab, housing and free lifestyle but now every part of life in Australia is a struggle with the cost of living, lack of housing and more crime with offenders getting off scott free. Nothing to be proud of to be in the top five places as the most expensive places in the world to live 🤬
 
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It's a non-question. The phrase originated, I believe, during the days when sheep and wool carried Australia's economic wealth and wellbeing. Those days are gone. The key features which moulded the Australian myth - a fair go and egalitarianism (for white people) - have long ago evaporated in favour of the "me" generation, individual profiteering, and CEOs on obscene salaries many hundreds of times more than the people whose hard work creates company wealth.

I wouldn't say the term "lucky country" is so much offensive as risible in the extreme. Lucky for some would be more like it
Hi Monks,
You put quite a bit of thought into your posting.
All so very true & correct.
Good work indeed & it's probably the thoughts of every dinki di Aussie as well.
I saw what you did there 😄
 
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It's a non-question. The phrase originated, I believe, during the days when sheep and wool carried Australia's economic wealth and wellbeing. Those days are gone. The key features which moulded the Australian myth - a fair go and egalitarianism (for white people) - have long ago evaporated in favour of the "me" generation, individual profiteering, and CEOs on obscene salaries many hundreds of times more than the people whose hard work creates company wealth.

I wouldn't say the term "lucky country" is so much offensive as risible in the extreme. Lucky for some would be more like it
Hi Monks,
You put quite a bit of thought into your posting.
All so very true & correct.
Good work indeed & it's probably the thoughts of every dinki di Aussie as well.
I saw what you did there 😄
 
When I was growing up as a lad in the 60s you could get a whole bag of lollies for 5c, stuffed full, bursting at t'seems, and me ma n pa could fill up their cars for a couple of bucks. You could feed a family of twelve on 10 bucks a week and buy them all brand new clothes every month. We never froze in summer and we sweated through winter cos th'electric and kero were so cheap. None of this gas rubbish, unless it came in a bottle. Never had trouble with the dunny either. Always flushed. And everyone you saw was a good old Aussie. No riff-raff from overseas or the desert stealing our cleaning jobs and picking our fruit. Garbos were guaranteed an honest job back then. Remember them, sprinting up and down the street, sleeves torn off their checks, their sunbronzed muscles rippling and those rockhard thighs and if you were lucky you'd catch a sneak peak at steel abs and 6packs! Cor! Those were the days. Men were men and women were fair game. Now you don't know who's who or who any more. You could be waking up next to a Mongolian refugee from New York, thinking you'd bedded down with dinky di Steve only to find out it's Fatima from Cremorne or Koondoola! Yeah we were once the lucky country. Lucky no more, eh, Ken Oath!
 
When I was growing up as a lad in the 60s you could get a whole bag of lollies for 5c, stuffed full, bursting at t'seems, and me ma n pa could fill up their cars for a couple of bucks. You could feed a family of twelve on 10 bucks a week and buy them all brand new clothes every month. We never froze in summer and we sweated through winter cos th'electric and kero were so cheap. None of this gas rubbish, unless it came in a bottle. Never had trouble with the dunny either. Always flushed. And everyone you saw was a good old Aussie. No riff-raff from overseas or the desert stealing our cleaning jobs and picking our fruit. Garbos were guaranteed an honest job back then. Remember them, sprinting up and down the street, sleeves torn off their checks, their sunbronzed muscles rippling and those rockhard thighs and if you were lucky you'd catch a sneak peak at steel abs and 6packs! Cor! Those were the days. Men were men and women were fair game. Now you don't know who's who or who any more. You could be waking up next to a Mongolian refugee from New York, thinking you'd bedded down with dinky di Steve only to find out it's Fatima from Cremorne or Koondoola! Yeah we were once the lucky country. Lucky no more, eh, Ken Oath!
LOL
 
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Oh yeah, the wool and sheep pioneers, such as John Macarthur (wool pioneer)?

Before 1840, Australia was producing more than two million kilos of wool each year. The success of the wool industry made many squatters and pastoralists immensely wealthy and by the 1880s the wool business was booming.

By 1795, Macarthur held some of the highest paying government positions in the colony, made profits of up to 500% on the extortion of trade and held 500 acres of land which produced goods that he sold to the government and other settlers at inflated prices, making him an extra £400 each year. Oh, but there's more...

Oh My!!! Many rotten, greedy, unscrupulous, obscene scoundrels around since….the start of this ‘lucky for some’ country!!!??? History doesn't lie - people just make convenient lapses (or embellishments) of memory.
 
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Our lucky country started to lose it's shine decades ago. The lucky part referred to there being jobs up for grab, housing and free lifestyle but now every part of life in Australia is a struggle with the cost of living, lack of housing and more crime with offenders getting off scott free. Nothing to be proud of to be in the top five places as the most expensive places in the world to live 🤬
And one of the best countries in the world to live.
 
was born in the early fifty's when hard work was rewarded hours where long but the weekend was SO GREAT you got 2 weeks holi a year and lived it up now days it seems that to be working in one place for more than 10 years is not heard of a lot, you could work for many years in one place and you got looked after rewarded not these days, not these days they bury your job description so deep you can not find it then make you redundant and replace you with a junour, now multi national companies buying out there smaller company competition, loyalty does not exciste any more, we could live with our neighbor no problem be them Greek, Italian etc what ever you spoke over the fence traded drinks over the fence mowed each other's front lawn and keeped a eye on things when they not at home THE LUCKY COUNTRY
Not any more you live day to day in fear of who may be at the door and trying to gain entry into what if you stop them you is in more trouble than them and they are doing armed rubbery etc luck country NO NOT NOW but you look at where our Governments live and you will not find any of there imports living next door to them or even in the same neighborhood the lucky country NO NOT ANY MORE
These incomers do as they please here lucky country for them here in there country they would be shot on sight here we give them a warm bed for the night feed them, then let them out on bail to do all over again ?? there is seriously something wrong with this country these days and our polies could not give a rats ass about just elecet me so I can tell a lot of bull do sweet bugger all and get double the wage of a hard working tradey the lucky country no its gone, may be a lucky country for those coming in as a refugee its better than where they come from then they bring there wars and crape with them the luck country no not any more
Seems like we are getting a little better educated also
 
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And one of the best countries in the world to live.
Australia is! When my son was two, toddling and curly-haired, I used to reflect that if we were African, in Africa, in only a few years' time he would be running round the jungle carrying an AK-47 and killing people.

We don't go to bed wondering if tomorrow we'll finally have at least one meal. Or terrified missiles will scream through the night to destroy the rest of our street. We don't have to protect our wives, daughters and mothers from groups of armed, rapacious men, as a matter of daily necessity.

Yeah, we're lucky, all right. Bloody lucky. Ken Oath!
 
Australia is! When my son was two, toddling and curly-haired, I used to reflect that if we were African, in Africa, in only a few years' time he would be running round the jungle carrying an AK-47 and killing people.

We don't go to bed wondering if tomorrow we'll finally have at least one meal. Or terrified missiles will scream through the night to destroy the rest of our street. We don't have to protect our wives, daughters and mothers from groups of armed, rapacious men, as a matter of daily necessity.

Yeah, we're lucky, all right. Bloody lucky. Ken Oath!
Give it TIME?
 
Australia is! When my son was two, toddling and curly-haired, I used to reflect that if we were African, in Africa, in only a few years' time he would be running round the jungle carrying an AK-47 and killing people.

We don't go to bed wondering if tomorrow we'll finally have at least one meal. Or terrified missiles will scream through the night to destroy the rest of our street. We don't have to protect our wives, daughters and mothers from groups of armed, rapacious men, as a matter of daily necessity.

Yeah, we're lucky, all right. Bloody lucky. Ken Oath!
Yeah and a pity they could not leave it in there own country instead of bring it here its on the news most nights some body getting hacked with a mashedi or stabbed with a kitchen knife or worst still they shooting at each other in a quiet suburban street where kids and the elderly live they do not give a shit about us or our Australian way of life yet we meant to welcome them as we get stabbed or shot not really you can have your religion but leave the wars and fighting at your own country, don't like our way of life well dinky-die Aussie's do
 

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