‘What does that mean?’: Trump caught off guard on AUKUS deal

International defence agreements are often carefully negotiated and strategically significant, shaping the future of global alliances.

But what happens when a major pact comes under unexpected scrutiny?

A recent exchange at the White House has reignited discussions about one of Australia's most significant military agreements.


US President Donald Trump appeared caught off guard when asked about AUKUS, the $577.7 billion defence pact between Australia, the UK, and the US.

During a White House meeting with UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer, a British reporter questioned Trump on whether AUKUS would be part of their discussions.

‘What does that mean?’ he responded, seemingly unfamiliar with the term.


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Trump’s AUKUS response sparks confusion. Image source: Getty/Carl Court


After the reporter clarified that AUKUS was a trilateral defence technology partnership, Trump acknowledged it was on the agenda.

‘We’ll be discussing that. We have another great relationship, and you have too, with Australia,’ he said.

‘Yeah, we’ve had a very good relationship with Australia.’

Despite the confusion, the deal had been regarded as a landmark agreement in US-Australia relations.


Prime Minister Anthony Albanese described it as a ‘new chapter’ and the ‘biggest single investment in Australia’s defence capability in our history’.

The agreement, set to cost between $420.7 billion and $577.7 billion over 30 years, covered advancements in artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and hypersonic missile technology.

Australia committed nearly $8.04 billion to bolster the US submarine industry in exchange for the purchase of several Virginia-class nuclear-powered submarines.

Though AUKUS was signed under Joe Biden’s administration, many had expected its significance to ensure strong support from Trump.

Earlier this month, Australia confirmed its first 1.26 billion payment under the deal.


US Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth stated that Trump was both ‘very aware’ and supportive of the agreement.

In a recent phone call, Albanese raised AUKUS while advocating for Australia’s exemption from Trump’s proposed 25 per cent tariff on aluminium and steel exports.

Following the call, Albanese told the press the conversation had been ‘constructive’.

‘The relationship is in good shape,’ he said.

When pressed on Trump’s views, Albanese remained guarded.

‘Well, quite clearly I’ve indicated there’s very positive support for the AUKUS relationship’

‘I have no intention of speaking on behalf of President Trump. That is up to him.’

‘But quite clearly, I’ve indicated there’s strong bipartisan support for AUKUS in Australia and in the United States.’


Employment Minister Murray Watt dismissed concerns over Trump’s unfamiliarity with the acronym.

‘I wouldn’t make too much about a president with a very full plate not remembering one acronym. I think all of us go through that sort of thing at different times,’ he said.

‘You’ll see there that he was able to say very quickly about the strength of the relationship with Australia and the fact that AUKUS will be something he’ll be discussing with the British prime minister.’

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton echoed this sentiment, reaffirming the strength of the alliance.

‘Not everyone you know gets the acronyms, and all the rest of it, but there’s no doubt in my mind that the president strongly supports the alliance between our three countries and strongly supports AUKUS,’ he shared.

‘He stated that previously and the submarine deal…will underpin the national security of our country for the next century.’


Meanwhile, Defence Minister Richard Marles pointed to recent Chinese military activity as further justification for the deal.

A live-fire drill by three Chinese warships off Australia’s south-east coast demonstrated the importance of investing in advanced defence capabilities, he said.

‘We don’t know whether there is the presence of a submarine and that in part speaks to the nature of submarines,’ Marles said.

‘That’s why submarines matter.’

‘That’s why we’re investing heavily in our long‑range submarines.’

Unlike Australia’s current diesel-powered fleet, Virginia-class nuclear submarines could travel further and operate undetected in deeper waters.


Watch the full report below.



Key Takeaways
  • Trump appeared unfamiliar with AUKUS when asked but later confirmed it was on the agenda.
  • Albanese called AUKUS the ‘biggest single investment in Australia’s defence capability’.
  • Albanese discussed AUKUS with Trump while seeking tariff exemptions, with the US affirming support.
  • Marles cited Chinese military activity to justify investing in nuclear submarines for greater stealth and range.

With Trump's initial reaction making headlines, what impact do you think this will have on AUKUS moving forward?

Let us know your thoughts in the comments.
 

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China has never intiated a war, they have been involved in a gradual soft war, meaning they get what they want in a form of conflict that utilizes non-kinetic means like economic sanctions, propaganda, cyber warfare, media manipulation, and legal maneuvering to achieve political goals.
One word ... Korea?
 
China has never intiated a war, they have been involved in a gradual soft war, meaning they get what they want in a form of conflict that utilizes non-kinetic means like economic sanctions, propaganda, cyber warfare, media manipulation, and legal maneuvering to achieve political goals.
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China has never intiated a war, they have been involved in a gradual soft war, meaning they get what they want in a form of conflict that utilizes non-kinetic means like economic sanctions, propaganda, cyber warfare, media manipulation, and legal maneuvering to achieve political goals.
Blind freddy knows that, but it's a different China now than it was 20,40, 50, 60 years ago. Massive military strength built on the back of cheap labour and a united nations which is now obsolete, just like its predecessor the league of nations, coalfired power stations,and a much better way of showing themselves to the world unlike their little sidekick Nth Korea. They won't start it like u say,but they'll damnwell do their best to push USA into it by way of Taiwan. And what will be our response if they try to annex Taiwan, sanctions, I can hear the bastard and his oversized hat lakkies pissin themselves laughing in Beijing . Might be a good time to move to the Cook Islands 🇨🇰.
 
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you did not listen hard enough. trump told zelensky in plain terme to agree to a peace talk to stop the war and to stop the killings. is that not humane enough for you. I am thinkink now that most Australians are a pretty dumb lot. the are very good at follow the leader.
How dare Trump tell Zelensky to agree to anything. The Ukraine is a Sovereign Country which means it is not under the control of any other country. It has its own laws and government in fact Zelensky should have told Trump to Go Jump or something stronger. The so called peace deal required Zelensky to sign over rights to Ukrainian rare minerals and who knows what else! Of of course there was no guarantee that Russia would abide by a peace deal anyway as Russia has a habit of doing its own thing, remember it invaded Ukraine in the first place. Putin has not been secretive about his ambitions, he wants a return to the "good old days" when Russia had control of many European countries i.e Soviet Union. Which Ukraine has already escaped from. And Trump has many business interests in Russia which involve cosying up with Russia, he also interests in the control of Ukraine himself. Are Australian`s such a dumb lot after all?? And if you feel like this about Australian`s why don`t you go to America or Russia and live there and see how far this sort of comment would get you! You have probably never been better off in your life, get a grip!! Are you even Australian??
 
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and you are so smart? Not; you are just one of those people who repeats gossip. Can you repeat every acronym? as you have shown, you are not very smart I will hazard a guess and say no, you could not. i couldn't.
Watching Trump showing his ignorance on TV is "repeating gossip"? I suppose you reckon, like him, that would be just another instance of "fake AI news"? What's wrong with repeating an acronym? Wake up to yourself, mate. You'll be a character when you're seventeen.
 
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you did not listen hard enough. trump told zelensky in plain terme to agree to a peace talk to stop the war and to stop the killings. is that not humane enough for you. I am thinkink now that most Australians are a pretty dumb lot. the are very good at follow the leader.
Thank you for your badly spelled and worded comment, typical of a citizen from the US I suspect. What do you think Zelensky was there for? Idiot! As far as we Australians being dumb is concerned, who voted Trump in? Speaks for itself.
 
Get this bloke off my tv and away from me, a disgusting failure. He’s just ‘peacing in the wind’ offering to send unarmed, unequipped Australian peacekeeping forces to Ukraine… what peace is there to keep?
China is already circling why would they take Taiwan when they could take Australia at will?
Albos leading the television cyclone warnings ‘it’s not political’… what BS. He’s led the country into oblivion now promotes himself in Liberal held QLD as knowledgeable about emergency procedures… Go Away Albo.
 
Get this bloke off my tv and away from me, a disgusting failure. He’s just ‘peacing in the wind’ offering to send unarmed, unequipped Australian peacekeeping forces to Ukraine… what peace is there to keep?
China is already circling why would they take Taiwan when they could take Australia at will?
Albos leading the television cyclone warnings ‘it’s not political’… what BS. He’s led the country into oblivion now promotes himself in Liberal held QLD as knowledgeable about emergency procedures… Go Away Albo.
How is the country in oblivion?. While the previous government was at the wheel inflation was approx 6.1% and unemployment was approx 4.2%. Under the Albanese government inflation is now approx 2.4% and unemployment is approx 4.1 %. AT LEAST HE IS HAVING A GO!. AND ALSO IF DIDN`T SHOW INTEREST IN THE PENDING CYCLONE AFFECTED AREAS, HE WOULD STILL BE IN THE FIRING LINE. During other disasters i.e Mr Morrison (Liberals and Co) took himself and his family off to a holiday in Hawaii and only returned when there was outrage from the Australian people. And as for peace keeping soldiers to Ukraine they are already training Ukraine soldiers in the U.K so I hardly think they are unskilled or unequipped. As far as the Chinese go they already have a foot in the door at Darwin. They don`t want Australia, Country Liberal-controlled Northern Territory Government under then Chief Minister Adam Giles granted them a 99-year lease for $506 million. There you Go!!
 
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Yep Morrison was rightly shown the door and is open for Albo to leave May24th.
His words of assurance are as warming now as when he told us the rapists & murderers released into the community (illegal immigrants) were being monitored by ankle bracelets and drones. Albo gone.
 
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Yep Morrison was rightly shown the door and is open for Albo to leave May24th.
His words of assurance are as warming now as when he told us the rapists & murderers released into the community (illegal immigrants) were being monitored by ankle bracelets and drones. Albo gone.
It was the High Court of Australia which made decisions about (illegal immigrants) the decison by Albanese and Co to enforce ongoing detention was considered to be unconstitutional.
 
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Get this bloke off my tv and away from me, a disgusting failure. He’s just ‘peacing in the wind’ offering to send unarmed, unequipped Australian peacekeeping forces to Ukraine… what peace is there to keep?
China is already circling why would they take Taiwan when they could take Australia at will?
Albos leading the television cyclone warnings ‘it’s not political’… what BS. He’s led the country into oblivion now promotes himself in Liberal held QLD as knowledgeable about emergency procedures… Go Away Albo.
Why doesn’t Albo not call an election but just resign and apologise to Australia for spending $M’s on a predictable non-winnable referendum and promulgating the ‘Welcome to Country’ at the least.
 
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