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It’s not just pensions: How deeming quietly drives up Aged Care fees

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It’s not just pensions: How deeming quietly drives up Aged Care fees

compressed-hispanic-hand-holding-australian-dollars-banknotes-isolated-pink-background.jpeg It’s not just pensions: How deeming quietly drives up Aged Care fees
Home care costs vary widely—pensioners pay little, but self-funded retirees can face hefty fees. Image source: krakenimages.com / Freepik
Noel Whittaker is the author of Wills, Death & Taxes Made Simple and numerous other books on personal finance. Email: [email protected]

Aged care has been in the headlines lately, with emphasis on the long time it takes for an assessment for aged care to be conducted, and then the long wait for what has been approved to happen.


At the same time, the deeming rates have been changed. While there has been much publicity about their effect on the age pension, very little has been written about their effect on aged care fees.


And this is where the real story lies: deeming affects everyone receiving aged care, whether it’s a home care package or residential aged care. The biggest impact is likely to fall on self-funded retirees, because they usually hold more financial assets than full pensioners.



With home care packages, everyone pays a basic daily fee (BDF) of about $12 a day. What you pay beyond this depends on your income, so it is called an income-tested care fee.


Full pensioners don’t pay it, because the thresholds are set at the maximum income a full pensioner can have.

But part-pensioners can pay up to $6,862 a year, while self-funded retirees can be slugged up to $13,724 a year.

What comes as a surprise to many retirees is that their ‘income’ is not based on taxable income, or even actual investment earnings, but on Centrelink’s deeming rules.


And on 20 September, the deeming rates used will rise by half a per cent.


Right now, singles are deemed to earn 0.25% on the first $64,200 of financial assets, and 2.25% above that threshold.


For couples, it’s 0.25% on the first $106,200, and 2.25% above that.


From 20 September, the rates will increase to 0.75% up to the threshold, and 2.75% above that.



Aged Care Guru, Rachel Lane, gives the following examples. John, a self-funded retiree receiving a home care package, has $3 million in investments.


With the current rates, he is deemed to earn $66,216 a year and pays $20 a day—almost $7,300 a year—as an income-tested care fee.


From September, his deemed income will rise to $81,216 (an increase of $15,000), and he will have to pay the maximum fee of $37.70 a day towards his care.


Residential aged care uses a combination of your assets and your income to calculate your care fees. Just like with home care, deeming is applied to your investments to calculate your income.


That means many part-pensioners and self-funded retirees will see their contributions rise.



Take Judy, a self-funded retiree who moved into an aged care home earlier this year, paying a refundable accommodation deposit of $500,000.


She has $1.4 million in financial assets. Under current rates, she is deemed to earn $30,216 a year.


From September, that will increase to $37,216. Right now, Judy pays almost $86 a day—$31,357 a year—as a means-tested care fee.


After the deeming increase, her fee will rise to just over $90 a day, or close to $33,000 a year.


A small rise in deeming rates may sound minor, but for older Australians in aged care, it can mean thousands more in fees.




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For Judy, a modest deeming rise means an extra $1,600 a year in fees. Image ource: DC Studio / Freepik



Many self-funded retirees will feel the effect, and some may hit the maximum. It’s a timely reminder that aged care fees don’t depend on what you actually earn, but on what the government deems you to earn.


Aged care is one of the most complicated areas in the financial services sector. That’s why it’s so important to seek quality advice to optimise your affairs.


There are now specialist investment products available, designed specifically for people like John and Judy in the case studies above, which can significantly reduce the pain.


And, of course, the earlier you act and get the right advice, the easier it is to protect your wealth and manage the costs of aged care effectively.



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About the author:

Noel Whittaker, AM, is the author of Wills, death & taxes made simple and numerous other books on personal finance. An international bestselling author, finance and investment expert, radio broadcaster, newspaper columnist and public speaker, Noel Whittaker is one of the world’s foremost authorities on personal finance. Connect via Twitter or email ([email protected]). You can shop his personal finance books here.


Advice given in this article is general in nature and is not intended to influence readers’ decisions about investing or financial products. Always seek professional advice that takes into account your personal circumstances before making any financial decisions. The views expressed in this publication are those of the author.

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I have been impacted by this 'deeming' lark. I had some money in the bank which was made more by a kind generous Bequest from a family member last year. I immediately got a letter from Centrelink asking me to contact them. Well I don't do stuff online so I went and saw them. My pension has been cut down a fair bit. It is 'deemed' to be making all this money because it's in my bank account. The thing is my account is one that I opened long ago being scared of being taxed, it is one that makes no Interest at all. I don't know what to do except what one staff lady said 'You should go on a holiday to spend $16,000.' I don't travel really anymore. I would love to hear any advice Members might have. Thanks all. Julie
 
I agree spend the money. It is yours to do with what you want. Good luck enjoy.
 
After my work accident in 2008, only 8 months of Workcover, 2.5 months of Super Cover and 3 refusals of a Disability Pension, I was forced to live on my Super ONLY, for the next almost 5 years.
When I won my 4,5-year court case, Centrelink eventually agreed to awarding me an Unemployment Pension.

Coincidentally, my first Pension payment and the compensation from my court case, both arrived on the exact same day.

After informing Centrelink that day, as required, the Unemployment payment was blocked immediately, as expected (as anyone receiving compensation, is not entitled to any assistance from a government organisation for the following 2 years).

A few days later, I saw on my bank account, Centrelink had actually debited the approximately $4.60 payment, that I, unknowingly, arrived on the first day!
Needless to say, I was shocked at this pettiness and lack of priority, which would have cost more than that amount to retract in the first!
 
I have been impacted by this 'deeming' lark. I had some money in the bank which was made more by a kind generous Bequest from a family member last year. I immediately got a letter from Centrelink asking me to contact them. Well I don't do stuff online so I went and saw them. My pension has been cut down a fair bit. It is 'deemed' to be making all this money because it's in my bank account. The thing is my account is one that I opened long ago being scared of being taxed, it is one that makes no Interest at all. I don't know what to do except what one staff lady said 'You should go on a holiday to spend $16,000.' I don't travel really anymore. I would love to hear any advice Members might have. Thanks all. Julie
My suggestion - wait until the end of each financial year. Your bank MUST inform the ATO of ANY interest earned on your account and you also do have access to this information. If no interest is earned on your bank account (which, as you say, also includes the gifted money) then there is proof that you have not earned any interest. However, if you are receiving a pension, then this will increase your assets and your pension (or even part-pension) is bound to go down a bit. I don’t know if you have a leg to stand on, but it might pay to seek proper ‘legal’ advice and not take hearsay from members here.
 
I have been impacted by this 'deeming' lark. I had some money in the bank which was made more by a kind generous Bequest from a family member last year. I immediately got a letter from Centrelink asking me to contact them. Well I don't do stuff online so I went and saw them. My pension has been cut down a fair bit. It is 'deemed' to be making all this money because it's in my bank account. The thing is my account is one that I opened long ago being scared of being taxed, it is one that makes no Interest at all. I don't know what to do except what one staff lady said 'You should go on a holiday to spend $16,000.' I don't travel really anymore. I would love to hear any advice Members might have. Thanks all. Julie
Well either open an account that does earn interest, (Term deposit?) or you can gift $10000 (a year is the limit) to a family member, or withdraw cash and keep it under your bed or preferable a safe. Spend some on a TV or whatever your heart desires.
 
Well either open an account that does earn interest, (Term deposit?) or you can gift $10000 (a year is the limit) to a family member, or withdraw cash and keep it under your bed or preferable a safe. Spend some on a TV or whatever your heart desires.
Use it on yourself, if you can. None of us will live forever so why deprive ourselves of some indulgence and pleasure while we can.
 
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We may as well go live under a rock in the park with our money in a bucket.
 
No doubt about it, they get you all ways: coming and going, side to side, up and down, inside out and back again. And then they tax you when you die, one way or another.
"Life wasn't meant to be easy," said somebody or other once upon a time.
 
No doubt about it, they get you all ways: coming and going, side to side, up and down, inside out and back again. And then they tax you when you die, one way or another.
"Life wasn't meant to be easy," said somebody or other once upon a time.
Life WAS meant to be easy, but politicians and bureaucrats deliberately made it hard, and spend their lives finding ways to make it progressively harder.

Deeming rates once made sense. They don't now, because few banks actually pay interest anywhere near the deeming rates. Many have ridiculous requirements such as that you increase your balance every month (which is blatant age discrimination, because older people with limited incomes do not want to increase their balances constantly.)

We should all write to Tanya Plibersek and ask her to either amend deeming rate rules to be fair (i.e. deem only if the actual interest received is equal to or more than the deeming rate) or ensure the govt does something about unfair interest rate policies by banks.
 
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Life WAS meant to be easy, but politicians and bureaucrats deliberately made it hard, and spend their lives finding ways to make it progressively harder.

Deeming rates once made sense. They don't now, because few banks actually pay interest anywhere near the deeming rates. Many have ridiculous requirements such as that you increase your balance every month (which is blatant age discrimination, because older people with limited incomes do not want to increase their balances constantly.)

We should all write to Tanya Plibersek and ask her to either amend deeming rate rules to be fair (i.e. deem only if the actual interest received is equal to or more than the deeming rate) or ensure the govt does something about unfair interest rate policies by banks.
I'll amend my original post ... life seems to be pretty easy for politicians and high-up public "servants".
 
I already commented about my loss of pension, but, of course, the next thing to happen was that my daily contribution to age care level 2 went up from around $3 to $12. That is $84 a week out of my non existent pension! Maybe it's time to give up the age care package!!
 
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