‘This isn’t respect’: Veterans question club’s Armistice Day gesture

A local bowling club’s controversial decision to ban commemorative shirts has sparked outrage among veterans and community members just days before Victory in the Pacific Day.

The shirts, worn proudly by players to honour fallen soldiers, have been abruptly prohibited without public explanation. While the club points to copyright concerns, the RSL denies any involvement, leaving bowlers questioning who made the call, and why.



The shirt in question isn’t just any bit of club kit. Designed in orange, white, and blue, and featuring military iconography, it was created as a heartfelt tribute to the diggers—our servicemen and women who have given so much for Australia.

Over 100 of these shirts were made and proudly worn by club members during Anzac Day commemorations, and many have continued to wear them since as a mark of respect.

But now, in a move that’s left many feeling blindsided, the club’s management has told players they’ll be refused entry if they turn up in the shirt.

Not only that, but the club won’t even accept their green fees—the small payment that allows social bowlers to play—effectively locking them out of the game and the community they love.


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Wagga RSL Bowling Club in NSW has banned players from wearing shirts featuring the phrase ‘lest we forget’, claiming trademark rights over the phrase. Image source: 7NEWS Australia / Youtube.



The club’s management claims the ban is due to trademark issues, stating that RSL Australia owns the rights to the phrase ‘lest we forget’ and can therefore restrict its use. This has left many members, including long-time bowler David Ashford, feeling both confused and angry.

‘We wore the shirt last Anzac Day and nobody said anything. Last week we were told we couldn’t wear them anymore or we might have to leave,’ Mr Ashford told 2GB’s Ben Fordham. ‘I think it’s just a cop out… a way of preventing us from bowling.’

But here’s where things get even stranger: RSL Australia has flatly denied ever requesting such a ban.

In a statement, a spokesperson said, ‘This is the first time RSL Australia has been made aware of this matter and the RSL has not placed any restrictions on its use by the Wagga Bowls Club.’



‘Lest we forget’ is more than just a slogan—it’s a solemn promise, first penned by Rudyard Kipling in his 1897 poem ‘Recessional’ and later adopted as a tribute to the ANZACs and all who have served.

For generations, it’s been a phrase that unites Australians in remembrance, especially on days like Anzac Day and Armistice Day.


Source: 7NEWS Australia / Youtube.​


The idea that such a phrase could be ‘owned’ or restricted has left many, including Mr Ashford, calling for the federal government to step in and ensure it remains in the public domain. ‘It has no right to be privatised,’ he said.

The ban has had a real impact on the club’s community spirit. Mr Ashford and his fellow bowlers aren’t just there for a roll-up—they also raise over $6,000 each year for the Wagga Wagga Base Hospital, supporting vital local services.



To be told they can’t honour veterans in their own way, after months of wearing the shirts without issue, has been described as ‘disgusting’ and ‘sick’ by those affected.

The move has also sparked wider debate about how we remember and honour our veterans, and who gets to decide what’s appropriate. Many see the ban as an unnecessary and hurtful overreach, especially given the RSL’s own denial of involvement.

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Key Takeaways

  • Wagga RSL Bowling Club in NSW has banned players from wearing shirts featuring the phrase ‘lest we forget’, claiming trademark rights over the phrase.
  • The club’s decision has caused backlash among members, with players expressing anger and disappointment, particularly as the shirts were created to honour Australian diggers for Anzac Day.
  • RSL Australia has denied authorising or requesting any such ban, stating they were not aware of the issue and had not placed restrictions on the phrase’s use.
  • Some club members are calling for federal government intervention to remove copyright protections from ‘lest we forget’, arguing it is a public tribute which should not be privatised.

What do you think about this ban? Should phrases like ‘lest we forget’ be protected, or should they belong to all Australians? Have you ever experienced something similar in your own community? Share your thoughts in the comments below!
 

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Bet my goodies someone from an offended country is in the ranks of management, what a croc, find out who it is and sack their sorry ass. Bigotry is not one sided.
I'd say there is not a veteran among them.
 
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And yes, they treated us recruits like scum.
I remember that mongrel club and their bad treatment of us.
I wonder if they ever thought or cared that some of those boys died.
Wombat, not boys, MEN. Thankfully I never visited that club. Make it go viral.
 
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I wonder who the top dog at the bowling club is……do they have an agenda 🤔
From my experience with the Board Of Directors of most RSL clubs is that a certain proportion MUST be a returned serviceman or woman and a current member of the RSL sub branch. Only ordinary directors may be non military serving board members.

It makes up part of a club's constitution.
 
From my experience with the Board Of Directors of most RSL clubs is that a certain proportion MUST be a returned serviceman or woman and a current member of the RSL sub branch. Only ordinary directors may be non military serving board members.

It makes up part of a club's constitution.
Yes, nevertheless I’m just a wee bit cynical and very confused as to why members of this particular club are not being ‘allowed’ to wear the t-shirts in question ……no doubt it will come out in the wash….
 
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Yes the RSL were like that.
They refused my entry into one of their clubs in Granville, Sydney, when I got back.
But years later when most of the WW2 guys were replaced by Vietnam veterans, things changed, and that's when I got involved as an advocate and welfare officer to help veterans from ALL WARS.
I never really understood the attitude of the WW2 veterans, they hit us with "You lot didn't go to a real war like we did", "Why have you only two medals when we have many many more?" Garbage like that.
The RSL now has changed, thanks to the newer Vietnam War veterans. We do a lot for sick veterans and their widows.
It was disgraceful the reaction and behaviour that many of our Vietnam veterans encountered upon their return home to Australia from duty in Vietnam, however, we must learn from these past mistakes and move forward. Our MEAO veterans have encountered negative reactions from some RSLs around Australia upon their return from the Middle East when they went seeking help from Advocates and this has given many of our younger veterans the wrong impression of RSL sub-Branches, thereby putting all RSL sub-Branches into the same category when there are many RSL sub-Branches around Australia with Advocates and Wellbeing Support Officers now working with ALL veterans, no matter what war they were involved in or not involved in, their families and war widows (females) and widowers (males) as we have both in today's age. Unfortunately, there are RSL sub-Branches around that are still to catch up and change with the times especially if they are to continue to survive and grow.
 
My experience with a certain RSL Club on the NSW South Coast paints a hypocritical picture.

The Board Of Directors was a closed shop with nepotism and cronyism running rife. The President, Vice President, Treasurer and certain other directors, all of who were WWII veterans, met every week day at 4.00 pm to tell Japanese war stories on tape loop, espousing their hatred of said. The hypocrisy was that they would drive their Mitsubishi Magnas and Toyota Camrys home, watch their Panasonic Viera televisions while heating last night's leftovers in their Sanyo microwaves!

Any suggestions made by ordinary directors or full members (such as myself) for the progress of the Club was invariably dismissed, stating it was not in the best interests of THEIR Club.
 
They're claiming copyright???? Rudyard Kipling's estate might have a few words to say about that.
Is anyone else as tired of officious nobodies as I am?
Back off RSL, you don't own that phrase, nor will you ever. Utter nonsense, and astonishing ignorance.
 
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They're claiming copyright???? Rudyard Kipling's estate might have a few words to say about that.
Is anyone else as tired of officious nobodies as I am?
Back off RSL, you don't own that phrase, nor will you ever. Utter nonsense, and astonishing ignorance.


RSL STATEMENT

The Returned & Services League of Australia (RSL) holds a number of trademarks, including Lest We Forget and The RSL. Registering a trademark means the RSL can exert some control on the use of the brand and ensure that the League is not blocked from using these words freely.

In turn, the RSL would only restrict use of the Lest We Forget trademark where the use is deemed to be inappropriate and not in keeping with the aims and ideals of the League and the remembrance of those who serve or have served in our nation’s defence.

Regarding the wearing of bowling shirts featuring the words Lest We Forget and the Wagga RSL Club, importantly, RSL Australia has not issued any instruction or demand that would prevent RSL Wagga Bowls Club members from wearing the shirts as described. RSL Australia was first made aware of this matter via media reports and the RSL has not placed any restrictions on its use by the Wagga RSL Bowls Club.

Reiterating, while RSL Australia does hold the trademark for Lest We Forget it has not issued any directive that would prevent its use in the manner described.

This would appear to be an inter-club issue, and in the absence of further information, the RSL does not intend to comment further.
 
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Since the RSL aren't the ones to have forbidden the wearing of the shirts, whoever did complain should own up. It's a pity you can't build another Bowling Club so you can wear what you like. Maybe someone doesn't believe that our diggers and veterans deserve the respect for what they did for us.
 
The phrase "lest we forget" does not belong to the RSL or any other entity it was a phrase used by Rudyard Kipling in one of his poems and this is not owned by the RSL. The bowling club has no right to install such a ban forcing players not to wear the Anzac shirts with the term "Lest we forget". I think there is something more to this ban than is being stated. Sounds more like someone has a grudge over the phrase and is using the RSL copy right as an excuse to enforce the ban.
 
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