‘This isn’t respect’: Veterans question club’s Armistice Day gesture

A local bowling club’s controversial decision to ban commemorative shirts has sparked outrage among veterans and community members just days before Victory in the Pacific Day.

The shirts, worn proudly by players to honour fallen soldiers, have been abruptly prohibited without public explanation. While the club points to copyright concerns, the RSL denies any involvement, leaving bowlers questioning who made the call, and why.



The shirt in question isn’t just any bit of club kit. Designed in orange, white, and blue, and featuring military iconography, it was created as a heartfelt tribute to the diggers—our servicemen and women who have given so much for Australia.

Over 100 of these shirts were made and proudly worn by club members during Anzac Day commemorations, and many have continued to wear them since as a mark of respect.

But now, in a move that’s left many feeling blindsided, the club’s management has told players they’ll be refused entry if they turn up in the shirt.

Not only that, but the club won’t even accept their green fees—the small payment that allows social bowlers to play—effectively locking them out of the game and the community they love.


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Wagga RSL Bowling Club in NSW has banned players from wearing shirts featuring the phrase ‘lest we forget’, claiming trademark rights over the phrase. Image source: 7NEWS Australia / Youtube.



The club’s management claims the ban is due to trademark issues, stating that RSL Australia owns the rights to the phrase ‘lest we forget’ and can therefore restrict its use. This has left many members, including long-time bowler David Ashford, feeling both confused and angry.

‘We wore the shirt last Anzac Day and nobody said anything. Last week we were told we couldn’t wear them anymore or we might have to leave,’ Mr Ashford told 2GB’s Ben Fordham. ‘I think it’s just a cop out… a way of preventing us from bowling.’

But here’s where things get even stranger: RSL Australia has flatly denied ever requesting such a ban.

In a statement, a spokesperson said, ‘This is the first time RSL Australia has been made aware of this matter and the RSL has not placed any restrictions on its use by the Wagga Bowls Club.’



‘Lest we forget’ is more than just a slogan—it’s a solemn promise, first penned by Rudyard Kipling in his 1897 poem ‘Recessional’ and later adopted as a tribute to the ANZACs and all who have served.

For generations, it’s been a phrase that unites Australians in remembrance, especially on days like Anzac Day and Armistice Day.


Source: 7NEWS Australia / Youtube.​


The idea that such a phrase could be ‘owned’ or restricted has left many, including Mr Ashford, calling for the federal government to step in and ensure it remains in the public domain. ‘It has no right to be privatised,’ he said.

The ban has had a real impact on the club’s community spirit. Mr Ashford and his fellow bowlers aren’t just there for a roll-up—they also raise over $6,000 each year for the Wagga Wagga Base Hospital, supporting vital local services.



To be told they can’t honour veterans in their own way, after months of wearing the shirts without issue, has been described as ‘disgusting’ and ‘sick’ by those affected.

The move has also sparked wider debate about how we remember and honour our veterans, and who gets to decide what’s appropriate. Many see the ban as an unnecessary and hurtful overreach, especially given the RSL’s own denial of involvement.

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Key Takeaways

  • Wagga RSL Bowling Club in NSW has banned players from wearing shirts featuring the phrase ‘lest we forget’, claiming trademark rights over the phrase.
  • The club’s decision has caused backlash among members, with players expressing anger and disappointment, particularly as the shirts were created to honour Australian diggers for Anzac Day.
  • RSL Australia has denied authorising or requesting any such ban, stating they were not aware of the issue and had not placed restrictions on the phrase’s use.
  • Some club members are calling for federal government intervention to remove copyright protections from ‘lest we forget’, arguing it is a public tribute which should not be privatised.

What do you think about this ban? Should phrases like ‘lest we forget’ be protected, or should they belong to all Australians? Have you ever experienced something similar in your own community? Share your thoughts in the comments below!
 

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It should belong to all Australians, and the RSL would totally agree with that.

I would be boycotting that bowling club and if all their patrons boycotted which in a small town is easy to do, then they will be begging them back .

This is nothing more than Dictation
Wagga is not a small town, it is a city.
 
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Maybe I’m just a wee bit cynical but I’m thinking the club may soon come out with a new shirt that will be acceptable to them and can only be purchased through the club for a ridiculous price.
In small towns there’s not always another suitable club available to change to and it’s really hard for some of the older patrons to give up the familiarity and friendship built up over years at their “local”. But I’d seriously consider a petition and a boycott for a period to make your point to the club of how important the happiness of the regular members and players is.
Wagga is not a small town. It is a city.
 
Wagga is not a small town, it is a city.
Nor is Brisbane , Adelaide, Perth etc etc.
My point was that you were saying that it is a small town. It is far from a small town
 
Some shirts are made and printed outside Australia and so the RSL get no money from them which is used to help veterans
 
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They are trying to abolish our history, anything to do with Australia is slowly being destroyed, look at Victoria, they banned Australia Day parade, Albanese pushed aside the 🇦🇺 Australian flag, we need to stop this and not let Australia be pushed aside, we grew up in this wonderful country, so let’s keep it going🇦🇺❤️🇦🇺
As for the bowls club, it made news overseas and got berated for its banning of the shirts.. time to honour and hold dear our Australian culture 🇦🇺❤️🇦🇺❤️🇦🇺

Stop saying "They are trying to abolish our history". None of the things you listed change history. Claiming that doesn't help your argument. It's a stupid expression you have been led to use by right wing shock jocks and Murdoch media outlets.

Think before you type!
Ok, so abolishing the Australia day march in Victoria is not trying to abolish our history , The Australian cricket team refusing to play on Australia Day, trying to change the date of Australia Day , trying to downgrade Anzac Day to appease a few, even activists coming out trying to abolish it altogether… so maybe you should read and think before you type your rude reply.
 

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Maybe I’m just a wee bit cynical but I’m thinking the club may soon come out with a new shirt that will be acceptable to them and can only be purchased through the club for a ridiculous price.
In small towns there’s not always another suitable club available to change to and it’s really hard for some of the older patrons to give up the familiarity and friendship built up over years at their “local”. But I’d seriously consider a petition and a boycott for a period to make your point to the club of how important the happiness of the regular members and players is.
Wagga is not a 'small' town.
 
Change bowling clubs.
That is the best comment so far. Ditch the bowling club and try somewhere else. Dollars speak many languages. The club will be hit hard by the loss of revenue due to a woke decision.
 
WAGGA WAGGA RSL & BOWLING CLUB!!!!!!!!!!
Are you mongrel scumbags serious???
How dare you!!! Wagga is the home of the soldier. Australian Army's 1st Recruit Training Battalion, Blamey Barracks Kapooa, NSW. Named after Australia's only Field Marshall. What an absolute stinking insult. They should be ashamed of themselves.

I am now goig to send them something they won't want to read.
 
Stop saying "They are trying to abolish our history". None of the things you listed change history. Claiming that doesn't help your argument. It's a stupid expression you have been led to use by right wing shock jocks and Murdoch media outlets.

Think before you type!
Well not to put too finer point on it but you need to do the same! As for "abolishing our history"" they have been doing that for donkeys years... from temp records to First Nation ... changing the narrative!
 
If we adopted the same values as America where there servicemen and women current and past service are treated like royalty at the Airports they are given preference to board and everywhere you go they get thanked for their service here someone wears something and it seems people are more concerned with offended someone else it really is time we got over all this political correctness and embraced some using commonsense to support an occasion
Please learn how to punctuate.
 
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Some shirts are made and printed outside Australia and so the RSL get no money from them which is used to help veterans
There is an excellent company in Australia that makes and sells Australian Made shirts, and has one that has the words LEST WE FORGET on it. I wear mine on Anzac Day and Remembrance Day - proudly.
 
It's a phrase for gods sake, copyright has no claim, stop going to Wagga Bowling club for 2 weeks....bet they soon change their minds.
 
Well not to put too finer point on it but you need to do the same! As for "abolishing our history"" they have been doing that for donkeys years... from temp records to First Nation ... changing the narrative!
You clearly have no idea what happened with the temperature record.

What about First Nation?
 
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If we adopted the same values as America where there servicemen and women current and past service are treated like royalty at the Airports they are given preference to board and everywhere you go they get thanked for their service here someone wears something and it seems people are more concerned with offended someone else it really is time we got over all this political correctness and embraced some using commonsense to support an occasion
If we adopted the same values as America we'd be invading innocent nations willy nilly.
 
Stop saying "They are trying to abolish our history". None of the things you listed change history. Claiming that doesn't help your argument. It's a stupid expression you have been led to use by right wing shock jocks and Murdoch media outlets.

Think before you type!
Just love the lefties and their stories...you are so funny.
 
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You clearly have no idea what happened with the temperature record.

What about First Nation?
Want to put money on that?
You should not be so intent on making assumptions...I know because I have made it my business to know about what is past and present...present is a lie that some zealots like to believe.
 
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Bet my goodies someone from an offended country is in the ranks of management, what a croc, find out who it is and sack their sorry ass. Bigotry is not one sided.
 
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At the next AGM nominate and vote in a new set of officeholders. Get organized and canvass the membership. Media coverage would be helpful as well as people like Paul Murray. No sense getting flustered and not doing anything constructive. Kick out the old farts and bring in ones that appreciate the fallen.
 
Was the shirt really "created as a heartfelt tribute to the diggers", or is it one of those doing the rounds on the Internet, a commercial grab from a non-Australian company, that also flogs AFL and NRL supporters' shirts? Probably made in China. I see their ads every day in my Facebook feed.
what a stupid comment.
 

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