What's in a Name? The Surname Controversy Everyone is Arguing About - Get the Scoop!

In the ever-evolving landscape of modern relationships, a seemingly simple question has sparked a fiery debate that's sweeping across social media and dinner tables alike: 'Would you take your partner’s surname?' This query has opened up a Pandora's box of opinions, revealing the deep-seated beliefs and cultural norms that continue to divide us in 2024.



The viral clip that's got everyone talking features a diverse group of people in the UK candidly responding to the surname question. The men's reactions are particularly split, with some seeing the passing on of their surname as a right, while others view it as an outdated tradition. One man proudly claims his name's ancient lineage as a reason to uphold the custom, while another is content to let his future wife retain her maiden name. A hipster in a beanie dismisses the practice as 'outdated,' and a man in a fun jumper is all for adopting his partner's surname.


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People were asked if they would take their partner's surname. Credit: @joeuk / TikTok


Women, on the other hand, approach the topic from a different perspective. Rather than focusing on whether they'd expect a partner to take their surname, they discuss their willingness to change—or not change—their own. One woman asserts her desire to maintain her identity, while another points out the patriarchal roots of the tradition, noting that a woman's last name is typically derived from a man, be it her father or husband. A teacher expresses openness to a name change, but her motivation stems from a dislike of her own surname.



The online debate rages on, with comments ranging from staunchly traditional to progressive. Some men insist on the mandatory adoption of their surname, while others question why certain men view their family name as a legacy akin to a 'Game of Thrones dynasty.' Women chime in too, with one emphasizing her professional achievements tied to her maiden name, and another flatly refusing to take a man's surname.

Psychologist Carly Dober weighs in on the controversy, explaining that the tradition of women taking men's surnames is rooted in patriarchal systems where it symbolized the transfer of ownership from father to husband. Although such explicit beliefs have faded, the tradition persists as a cultural norm that's often unchallenged. For men, the idea of taking their wife's surname can challenge deeply ingrained notions of masculinity and identity. A surname is frequently associated with legacy, heritage, and social status, and changing it can feel like relinquishing these important markers.

Dober also points out that men's resistance may stem from a fear of judgment. The prospect of being the man who 'gives up' his name can provoke reactions that challenge their masculinity, even if it's not explicitly stated. In a society where gender equality is still progressing, many men are subconsciously tied to traditional markers of male dominance, even as they consciously support equality in other areas.



For women, the expectation to take a man's last name continues for similar reasons. It's what's considered 'normal,' and deviating from this norm can result in pushback.

So, dear members of the Seniors Discount Club, what are your thoughts on this surname saga? Have you or someone you know faced a similar decision? How did you navigate the choice, and what influenced your decision? Whether you're a traditionalist, a modernist, or somewhere in between, we'd love to hear your stories and perspectives on this contentious topic.

You can watch the video below:


Credit: @joeuk / TikTok

Key Takeaways
  • A viral question highlighting whether individuals would take their partner's surname has sparked a major debate about traditions and gender roles.
  • The debate has shown that men are divided on the issue, with some clinging to the idea of legacy and heritage while others consider it outdated.
  • Women approached the question differently, focusing on their personal choice to keep or change their surname, with many advocating for the normalisation of women retaining their own last names.
  • Psychologist Carly Dober explained that the tradition of women taking men's last names is rooted in patriarchal systems, and that both men and women often face societal expectations and judgments in relation to their choices about surnames.

Remember, the names we choose to carry can say a lot about our values, our relationships, and our sense of self. In the end, whether to keep, change, or blend surnames is a deeply personal decision—one that deserves respect and understanding, regardless of the path chosen. Share your experiences and join the conversation below!
 

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A more important question for me is how do you get your surname back. My first wife chose to take my surname but kept it when she left me for someone else. Even when I divorced her she kept my name and 34 years later, she still has it. Why is this an issue you may ask. Well because my second wife has the same Christian name as the first, and as my surname is not very common at all, there are two women running around with the same name. This has led to many awkward situations over the years, at medical specialists and other businesses. I believe that if you allow your partner to take your name, you should have the right under certain circumstances, to demand your name be given back.
 
"Some men insist on the mandatory adoption of their surname". HUGE red flag! If a woman chooses to take on her husband's surname that is HER choice, just as if she wants to keep her pre-marriage name is also her choice. Why don't people just grow up! When I was dating a man, we discussed in theory the idea of marriage and I told him that if we did go down that road, I would be keeping my name. He was flummoxed and when I asked why, he asked how would people know we were married. My response was that he would say, "this is my wife, Jane Gillespie." DERR... when he persisted that he felt husbands and wives should have the same last name, I said he could always change his to mine and he got all huffy about giving up 'his heritage' but couldn't see that this works both ways. Needless to say, we did not marry!
 
In this day and age it appears that all things of the past require changing.... Somethings from the past can certainly be improved upon in todays society, and some things that have passed the test of time for generations are changing for no other reason than the 'let's just change it syndrome'. As we all live together in todays world we all have the choice of which way we want to live and we can either accept change if it is indeed progressive in nature or retain our own values and way of living that has carried us through our lifetime to date. The choice is yours alone. May we all live in Love and Peace. Democracy at it's best.
 
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A more important question for me is how do you get your surname back. My first wife chose to take my surname but kept it when she left me for someone else. Even when I divorced her she kept my name and 34 years later, she still has it. Why is this an issue you may ask. Well because my second wife has the same Christian name as the first, and as my surname is not very common at all, there are two women running around with the same name. This has led to many awkward situations over the years, at medical specialists and other businesses. I believe that if you allow your partner to take your name, you should have the right under certain circumstances, to demand your name be given back.
Many are too lazy to change back - it is not hard just tedious to remember to change everything. I did as his name would have only reminded me of what he did do to get divorced every day!
 
Many are too lazy to change back - it is not hard just tedious to remember to change everything. I did as his name would have only reminded me of what he did do to get divorced every day!
Some it is not laziness. Some things there is charges involved.
 
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Some it is not laziness. Some things there is charges involved.
I never paid any money out - my 2nd husband and I bought land in both our names before we married and I haven't changed my name on those deeds - the bank was advised my name changed when we married for the loan etc and licences - that was enough.
 
My response is not to change your name. Changing it back is filled with difficulties. I changed my name when I got married but after my divorce, I wanted to go back to my maiden name. Some organisations do it easily while others want to see your birth cert, marriage cert, divorce papers - consequently, some are are in old, some in "new" old name!!!
 
Just a small query, when 2 blokes marry each other, which bloke takes which blokes name ? The 2 blokes become 1 bloke in a sense and therefor creates a very blokey problem, that only the 2 blokes can sort out.

More than likely when 2 females marry, creates the same problem.

What a damned mess.

NOVEZAR.
 
I was happy as a lark when i said I do 44 years ago, and, I was proud to take hubby's surname. Actually, it was not something that prompted a huge amount of thought at the time.
My niece became an only child after her brother passed away when she was very young. Her way of honouring the family name was to hyphenate the two surnames when she got married. That made her parents happy, she was happy to have both and her husband absolutely backed her decision, no questions asked.
In the end, it is all about choice. I'm not sure that saying a man gives a woman his name is a broad enough perspective. There is another way of looking at it. Some might say, he took my name and made me use his.
Also, if there a young children involved who have the dad's surname, it may be confusing for them to have mum change to another.
All in the eye of the beholder.
 
The problem is what surname do your children take. The ridiculous practise of giving a child a hyphenated name if fine for the first generation, but what happens when they marry and have kids. This becomes very complicated if two people with hyphenated names marry, do the kids have 4 surnames.
 
I hold a few traditional beliefs and the man passing on his surname to his wife is one of those beliefs. Those feminists who believe it is somehow demeaning to take on her husband's surname. If a women really wishes to keep her surname and self-identity because she feels it creates some sense of superiority or achievement over her husband, then why get married in the first place. All of this so-called progressive culture where you have women partnering other women, men partnering other men. Men or women who believe they are or can change their sex. Who takes on who's name, they have literally lost the plot, these things start off innocent enough. So called progressives will try to change every tradition and every word and phrase in the dictionary if it does not suit them. If it isn't broke, then don't try to fix it.
 
I took my husbands name when we got married 42years ago, then after 4 yeras of marriage he had a huge fall out with his family and didnt want to be known as part of that family. So he decided to change his name.
He asked me if he could take my maiden name. so he changed his name and our 2 boys names by depole and I reverted back to my maiden name. This really pleased my dad as we were 5 girls, now we have the family name being carried on by my boys.
 
I took my husbands name when we got married 42years ago, then after 4 yeras of marriage he had a huge fall out with his family and didnt want to be known as part of that family. So he decided to change his name.
He asked me if he could take my maiden name. so he changed his name and our 2 boys names by depole and I reverted back to my maiden name. This really pleased my dad as we were 5 girls, now we have the family name being carried on by my boys.
It is a little sad that family differences cannot sorted without going to the extreme of disowning one's family to the extent you wish to change your family name. I know family dynamics can be difficult at times I just think it is sad.
 
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