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Pensioners scammed out of $1,700,000

UPDATE FROM AN SDC MODERATOR: We've decided it would be best to lock the comments section of this post to protect the member. That said, we want to issue a friendly reminder: We will NEVER tolerate personal attacks towards members who have fallen victim to scammers. It's not an experience we would wish upon anyone, and our main intention is to always keep seniors informed. Thank you for understanding.

My husband and I had worked hard all our life, working two jobs when interest rates were 17%. We also had four children. We saved and saved for our retirement and to ensure our children and grandchildren could be left a good amount of money when we passed to help them in this crazy world where living expenses have gone through the roof. Well a friend called us and told us he was investing in this Company and making quite a bit of money. That was our downfall. We thought maybe if we do the same we could make enough to pay off our children’s home loans.

we saw it advertised on Facebook and sent them an email, they responded. we were only going to invest a small amount around $2000 to see how it went. We started seeing money coming in and we were appointed our own Investment Manager. From then on we were coerced into putting more and more money in. Our Investment Manager would put us on to his accountant when we said no. He tricked us with his talking and we went ahead and did what he told us Saying once we get into the millionaires club our money would increase ten fold. We were told about arbitrage and after the investment manager starting doing that money was building up quickly. At times he even put money back into our account to make it look legitimate I suppose. He talked about his wife and daughter and built a great repore with us.
We had invested $1,200,000 and when it reached $3,000,000 we decided to take out the money And stop.
Well when we tried to draw our money out we were told we had to pay around $430,000 for their fees. We had told them previously that we had no more money to put in and I said to them that they were supposed to be taking out the charges with each investment they made. They said no, that wasn’t the way it worked.
We had no more money left, all our superannuation was gone. We needed the money so we drew on our house equity, thinking that when we get the money back we will pay the loan off straight away.
We lost everything. We had to sell our house to pay off the loan. We have little left and it’s our children that will now suffer when we pass. The Company was The Investment Centre. Because we could only send the Company $20,000 at a time via the exchange there were months of transactions daily for these amounts and the CBA did not ring us once or send an email or text asking where all this money was going. They refused to take any responsibility for duty of care and gave us not a cent back.
we have reported them to Scam Watch etc. etc. So all up we lost $1,700,000 and our house
 
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Pensioners scammed out of $1,700,000

My husband and I had worked hard all our life, working two jobs when interest rates were 17%. We also had four children. We saved and saved for our retirement and to ensure our children and grandchildren could be left a good amount of money when we passed to help them in this crazy world where living expenses have gone through the roof. Well a friend called us and told us he was investing in this Company and making quite a bit of money. That was our downfall. We thought maybe if we do the same we could make enough to pay off our children’s home loans.
we saw it advertised on Facebook and sent them an email, they responded. we were only going to invest a small amount around $2000 to see how it went. We started seeing money coming in and we were appointed our own Investment Manager. From then on we were coerced into putting more and more money in. Our Investment Manager would put us on to his accountant when we said no. He tricked us with his talking and we went ahead and did what he told us Saying once we get into the millionaires club our money would increase ten fold. We were told about arbitrage and after the investment manager starting doing that money was building up quickly. At times he even put money back into our account to make it look legitimate I suppose. He talked about his wife and daughter and built a great repore with us.
We had invested $1,200,000 and when it reached $3,000,000 we decided to take out the money And stop.
Well when we tried to draw our money out we were told we had to pay around $430,000 for their fees. We had told them previously that we had no more money to put in and I said to them that they were supposed to be taking out the charges with each investment they made. They said no, that wasn’t the way it worked.
We had no more money left, all our superannuation was gone. We needed the money so we drew on our house equity, thinking that when we get the money back we will pay the loan off straight away.
We lost everything. We had to sell our house to pay off the loan. We have little left and it’s our children that will now suffer when we pass. The Company was The Investment Centre. Because we could only send the Company $20,000 at a time via the exchange there were months of transactions daily for these amounts and the CBA did not ring us once or send an email or text asking where all this money was going. They refused to take any responsibility for duty of care and gave us not a cent back.
we have reported them to Scam Watch etc. etc. So all up we lost $1,700,000 and our house
Thank you for sharing this with us! I am very sorry this had to happen to you. We hope you're getting the help you need and a fair resolution as soon as possible. Take care and stay safe always.
 
It is time people woke up. If it sounds too good to be true walk away. They had plenty of money so why not enjoy life rather than keep grabbing out for extra. There is more to life than making money. Why should a bank step in when people make stupid decision? You take a risk, gamble and take a chance. Might as well have popped it all through the pokies!! Sorry but no sympathy for stupid people.
 
I'm saddened by this outcome.

The want to help children is a pressure on so many parents these days when a house is such a huge expense in Australia.

From the article it appears to be too late for these victims.

Readers, always keep that often used saying at the forefront of your minds, the one that tells you:

'If it sounds too good to be true...'
 
I cannot understand using a company on Facebook, why not leaving the money invested in the bank? the interest is lower but safer but once again those golden Dollars flashing in front of the eyes, all those years of hard work gone down the drain, I guess my children would be glad to have a share of that amount of money
 
Aa the saying goes, if it looks to good to be true it ususlly is ,always get a lawyer and Chartered Accountsnt to check the legitimacy of those offering these amazing returns
 
I am very sorry but I can't sympathise. These people were already extremely well off by most people's standards.
Children don't need their mortgages paid off for them, this leaves them no incentive to achieve on their own.
They were already in line for a generous inheritance.
Greed took over their thinking. Do these people not live in the real world, we are told over and over again about these scams. Everything that happened to them has been explained again and again as to how these people operate.
Reading this article, was like reading the same book over again.
The bank is not responsible for their greed and stupidity. I am not surprised the AFCA did not decide in their favour.
A very expensive lesson.
 
I agree with all who stated that this was a case of greed! However, i have a question regarding the headline to this arcticle, it says " Pensioners". Just wondering if and how they actually qualified as pensioners? Surely they would have been seen to have too much in assets to access any government aid! I know we don't have that much, yet have already been told that when i turn 67 we will not recieve a penny, but perhaps the concession card.
 
I'm sorry this has happened to you but to be honest I don't trust anyone.

I would never invest money in anything that wasn't well known and even then there are risk.

If I had $1.7 million I would have been happy with that.

To me there were many red flags here and the biggest one was the $20,000 deposits.

I don't think you can expect the bank to refund you . The company only withdrew what you approved. It would be different if they were taking out without your approval.

How well did you know your friends and how long have they been your friend ?
 
I'm sorry this has happened to you but to be honest I don't trust anyone.

I would never invest money in anything that wasn't well known and even then there are risk.

If I had $1.7 million I would have been happy with that.

To me there were many red flags here and the biggest one was the $20,000 deposits.

I don't think you can expect the bank to refund you . The company only withdrew what you approved. It would be different if they were taking out without your approval.

How well did you know your friends and how long have they been your friend ?
I agree, a lot of what is written here does not add up!
 
I'm sorry this has happened to you but to be honest I don't trust anyone.

I would never invest money in anything that wasn't well known and even then there are risk.

If I had $1.7 million I would have been happy with that.

To me there were many red flags here and the biggest one was the $20,000 deposits.

I don't think you can expect the bank to refund you . The company only withdrew what you approved. It would be different if they were taking out without your approval.

How well did you know your friends and how long have they been your friend ?
And how savvy were the friends financially. Taking financial advice from friends is fraught with danger
 
I am very sorry but I can't sympathise. These people were already extremely well off by most people's standards.
Children don't need their mortgages paid off for them, this leaves them no incentive to achieve on their own.
They were already in line for a generous inheritance.
Greed took over their thinking. Do these people not live in the real world, we are told over and over again about these scams. Everything that happened to them has been explained again and again as to how these people operate.
Reading this article, was like reading the same book over again.
The bank is not responsible for their greed and stupidity. I am not surprised the AFCA did not decide in their favour.
A very expensive lesson.
It’s sad but as you say, “Children don't need their mortgages paid off for them, this leaves them no incentive to achieve on their own.”
I think the parents just got too caught up with what might be, and lost sight of reality.
I was not left with any type of inheritance when I parents died and certainly never expected any. Thankfully, I wasn’t left with their debts! 😆🤣
 
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