'That's crazy': Dad faces hundreds in fines due to unforeseen circumstances

Navigating the roads as a driver can be a tricky business.

For parents and grandparents, there's an added layer of responsibility when it comes to ensuring the safety of their children.

What happens when a simple mistake on the road could lead to a hefty fine?

This was the cautionary tale of a dad who wanted to alert other drivers to the potential pitfalls of road safety regulations, especially when it comes to children.


Chris, a New South Wales father who shared his experiences online, got caught off guard by a letter.

Being a single father, he would often drive around with his nine-year-old daughter.

Two months after driving with his daughter to Newcastle, he received a notification for a $410 fine. Along with the fine were three demerit points.

The reason? His daughter's seat belt slipped from her shoulder.


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Chris and his daughter would often go on drives together and follow safety precautions. Image Credit: Pexels/cottonbro studio


When Chris reviewed the footage of the violation, his daughter reached over his phone. While doing so, the girl's seat belt slipped from her shoulder.

'It's come off, and there's nothing I could have done. I have told her about safety. She knows the rules. She's just accidentally lent over, and it's got me the fine,' Chris lamented.

'If I happen to notice her seatbelt slipping, I would correct her. Unfortunately, in this instance, it has accidentally fallen from her shoulder; she did not realise, and I did not catch it.'

'I cannot be constantly checking my daughter's seatbelt to determine if it is high enough on her shoulder, as this would distract me from driving,' he added.


When Chris contested the fine, a Service NSW employee firmly denied waiving it and that there was no leniency for first-time offences.

'Fining people for a first offence is simply a revenue-generating exercise, not a genuine attempt to change behaviour positively,' he disappointedly expressed.

'The NSW Government should still contact the driver and send them photos, threatening a future fine, but they should not be issuing fines right off the bat—especially fines this high.'

Several people expressed their shock about the fine online.

'That's crazy,' one wrote after seeing the penalties Chris received.

'So sorry this happened. The same thing happened to my brother and their daughter in QLD, but the fine was way higher, and they could not fight the charge,' another shared.


While some questioned why Chris's daughter occupied the front seat, the NSW law stated that children aged between four and seven 'must not sit in the front seat of a vehicle that has two or more rows of seats unless the available seats in the back row are occupied by other children aged under seven years'.

Seatbelt detection cameras were recently implemented after several trials.

These cameras also detect mobile phone use while driving.

Since its implementation, the cameras have already caught thousands of non-compliant drivers and passengers.


However, mobile phone detection cameras in NSW and SA have caused confusion and frustration among drivers, with many feeling they were unfairly fined.

Drivers are questioning the fairness of the fines, with some seeking legal advice and potentially facing costly disputes.

'The right to dispute the claim if incorrect should be allowed, and proof of the charge and photo should be mandatory. It also should be a clear image of the offence. If you did the crime, you are liable; if it's an error, you should have the right to dispute without huge cost,' SDC member @Koda wrote.

For grandparents who love to drive around with their grandchildren, this story should be a stark reminder about seatbelt safety.
Key Takeaways

  • An NSW dad warned parents after receiving a fine due to his daughter's seatbelt mishap caught on camera.
  • The father was fined $410 and three demerit points after his daughter was seen after his daughter's seat belt slipped off her shoulder.
  • The father believed that first-time offences should warrant a warning rather than an immediate fine and demerit points.
  • Several drivers have questioned the seat belt detection cameras as an effective tool for road safety management, as many felt they were unfairly fined.
We encourage you to share this story with your family and friends, especially those with young children. Have you or someone you know faced similar fines? What are your thoughts about Chris' predicament? Join the conversation in the comments below.
 

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The child had a seat belt on it is not picking and not feasible to wear a seat belt perfect that has slipped .What are the measurements and where in law books people are all sizes it's revenue collecting only please show where the measurements are ?
 
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The child had a seat belt on it is not picking and not feasible to wear a seat belt perfect that has slipped .What are the measurements and where in law books people are all sizes it's revenue collecting only please show where the measurements are ? people are not statues and move
 
Seems a bit rough to me. The age law that was mentioned by some, doesn't apply, in this case, as his daughter was nine, not under seven.
It has nothing to do with the seatbelt anyway.
The seatbelt was obviously on and as the driver stated do the authorities want him to have his eyes on the road or on his daughter's seatbelt.
 
Seems a bit rough to me. The age law that was mentioned by some, doesn't apply, in this case, as his daughter was nine, not under seven.
It has nothing to do with the seatbelt anyway.
The seatbelt was obviously on and as the driver stated do the authorities want him to have his eyes on the road or on his daughter's seatbelt.
I don't see how the seatbelt would slip off if it was working correctly. If she went through the window, would he say sorry I was watching the road.
 
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I don't see how the seatbelt would slip off if it was working correctly. If she went through the window, would he say sorry I was watching the road.
But. When your driving do you spend your time continually looking at your passengers seat belts. I bet you don't.
If your reaching out for something they can definitely slip off, it's happened to me. They do go back on place usually when you straighten up.
 
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But. When your driving do you spend your time continually looking at your passengers seat belts. I bet you don't.
If your reaching out for something they can definitely slip off, it's happened to me. They do go back on place usually when you straighten up.
I check my Grandkids in the rear-view mirror.
 
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The seat belt should readjust itself if working properly. The rule is:-
Ages 7 and up may be shifted from a booster seat to a standard seat and seatbelt if they are 145cm or taller.
We don't know the child's height. The overriding issue is children need to have their seat belt on properly at all times and if they are shorter than 145cm they should be in a booster seat. Safety first! The responsibility is squarely on the driver to ensure child has seat belt on correctly at all times and that the seatbelt is in good working order. Fair cop!
 
But you can only do that every now and then when it's safe to do.
I have been driving over 50yrs, no accidents or fines as yet, I transported 6 children to many activities as well as 8 grandchildren. I check my rear-view mirror regularly as part of normal driving. I am well aware of what is happening in and outside my car. I don't believe there are any excuses for this, as soon as he saw his daughter lean forward, he should have checked on her with a simple question.
 
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It comes down to safety. Children are notorious for fiddling with seatbelts. If the seatbelt slips off the child shoulders and at that time the car is involved in an accident, then the child could be seriously hurt or even killed. The parents should either place the child in a proper child safety seat or adjust the seatbelt so it cannot slip off the child's shoulders. Everyone has who driven around with a child in the car knows children do not like seatbelts. However, seatbelt save lives and sometimes through no fault of your own, you do not get a second chance with a child's life.
 
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Funny how the belt slipped off just as the photo was taken.
Children are notorious for fiddling around with seatbelts. My wife and I solved the problem with a child safety seat. The harness used in a child's safety seat means the child cannot move the safety belt harness off their shoulders.
 
Children are notorious for fiddling around with seatbelts. My wife and I solved the problem with a child safety seat. The harness used in a child's safety seat means the child cannot move the safety belt harness off their shoulders.
But they get to a certain height or age and they can't use them anymore, but I get where you're coming from.
 
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But they get to a certain height or age and they can't use them anymore, but I get where you're coming from.
My wife and I looked at this issue also and came to the conclusion that when our son had outgrown the children's safety seat, then he will be old enough to understand why it is so important to wear a seatbelt.
 
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I had my granddaughter in the front seat years ago. She was 7 and she had the seatbelt on correctly. I was so lucky because 2 weeks later the new law came in about having them in the back seat only. The youngest is now 17 so I'll be letting them know.
 

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