Former prime minister sparks fiery debate with TV host: 'We believe in free speech'

A lively exchange on Australian television has sparked widespread discussion.

A well-known public figure and a media personality clashed over a contentious issue that continues to divide opinions.

The heated debate captivated viewers, with strong opinions emerging on both sides.


In a recent episode of Channel 10's The Project that has everyone buzzing, former Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull found himself in a heated exchange with co-host Steve Price.

The tension was palpable as the two men clashed over the controversial AUKUS nuclear submarines deal, which has been stirring up debate nationwide.

'Obviously, Peter Dutton would like you to shut up, and so would Albo (Anthony Albanese), presumably,' Price said.


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A tense on-air exchange was seen between Malcolm Turnbull and Steve Price over the AUKUS deal. Credit: YouTube


'Well, so would you presumably—but then you shouldn't have asked me to come on the program.'

The AUKUS agreement, a strategic partnership between Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United States, has been a hot topic since its announcement.

It's a bold move aimed at bolstering defence capabilities in the Indo-Pacific region, particularly in response to perceived Chinese aggression.


The deal, which could cost Australian taxpayers up to $368 billion, involves the acquisition of eight nuclear-powered submarines, including three US Virginia-class and a new range of SSN-AUKUS-class hybrid vessels.

Turnbull, who led the country as the Liberal prime minister before his successor, Scott Morrison, expressed his concerns about the deal on the show.

He fears Australia might never see these submarines despite the hefty price tag.

His worries stem from a clause in the deal allowing the US to prioritise its naval needs over supplying Australia with the submarines should there be a shortfall.

Turnbull didn't mince words when he described the situation as 'a fiasco.'

The conversation took a sharp turn when Price questioned Turnbull's timing and choice to speak out, suggesting that it was inappropriate for a former prime minister to criticise such a sensitive deal amidst global tensions.


Turnbull's response was swift and pointed, 'Well, so would you presumably—but then you shouldn't have asked me to come on the program.'

The exchange grew even more intense when Price remarked that it wasn't his choice to have Turnbull on the show.

'We believe in free speech in Australia,' Turnbull said.

As the discussion continued, Turnbull was asked what he would do about the submarines if he were in Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's shoes.

He proposed a rather drastic solution: having Australians serve on American submarines under the American flag, a move he acknowledged would be a significant loss to Australia's sovereignty.

Turnbull's insistence on transparency from current and aspiring political leaders, including Peter Dutton, struck a chord with many viewers.


He urged them to be honest about the risks associated with the AUKUS deal, including the possibility that Australia might not receive the submarines at all.

Even in the face of criticism, the former PM's candidness and willingness to speak his mind resonated with many Australians concerned about the country's defence strategy and financial commitments.

His appearance on The Project has sparked a broader conversation about the role of former leaders in public discourse and the importance of holding current politicians accountable.

As the debate over the AUKUS deal continues, it's clear that the stakes are high, and the opinions are strong.

With Australian submariners already training in the US and plans to build the vessels on home soil by the 2040s, the nation is watching closely to see how this ambitious project will unfold.


Credit: YouTube

Key Takeaways

  • Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull engaged in a tense on-air exchange with The Project host Steve Price regarding the AUKUS nuclear submarines deal.
  • Turnbull raised concerns about the feasibility and strategic implications of the submarine deal, which could cost up to $368 billion.
  • He criticised the current government for not being open and honest about the potential risks of not receiving the submarines due to stipulations in the US legislation.
  • Turnbull and The Project’s co-hosts discussed the significant implications of the AUKUS partnership for Australia's defence capabilities and sovereignty.
What do you think, dear members of the Seniors Discount Club? Should former prime ministers speak out on current affairs, or should they remain silent? And what are your thoughts on the AUKUS deal and its implications for Australia's future? Join the conversation and let us know in the comments below.
 

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this particular one should go away and just shut up. he has us locked into the paris agreement but does he say that is a bad move? NO. My opinion is he did not help australia with the tarrif solution, in fact i blame him. women who fawn him must not have a brain cell.
 
The highly skilled people will remain if treated right. If not, they will go to better paid jobs in private industry (just not as rewarding). Governments have failed people like me and countless others in the ADF and people leave because of that. We have learned nothing since the first Australian came back from WW1. We treated them poorly when they were serving and it was disgusting how they were treated when they returned - and they were the ones that we rightfully consider heroes. Since then, the support from governments has just gone downhill. I could tell you my story and you would just shake your head and say that is horrible. My story is just one of thousands and probably not as bad as most. So, we can be optimists and believe we will be able to man a handful of these clunky machines, or we can take the HR problems out of the picture and replace them with thousands of very capable stealth weapons.
I hate war!
 
Yes, Mr Trump is realy interested he could not care less about Australia`s interests, too busy looking after his own!!
is that not what he is supposed to be doing as President of the USA. Australia is not of his concern. I am sure albo would not get an invite as he is unable to run a chook run. you made a very silly remark.
 
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He was invited to participate in the show and he was expressing his views about AUKUS and I think he is right to do so!! He doesn`t live under a rock, this is a democracy and freedom of speech is at the heart of democracy.
Then the person inviting him is a moron....
 
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Just a heads up. I'd be very careful using the "twat" word. I was told I was disgusting and had no self esteem for using such foul language on this forum yesterday. But luckily for you the offended snowflake isn't on their soapbox this morning......yet 🤣🤣🤣
That person should get a life....
 
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Turbull is right about speech and right about us not see the submarines. I believe the Primeminister should have sacked for engaging in the deal.
I don't think they have built one house yet, it would have been all over the news when it was completed it there was.
 
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I have never liked Steve Price as an interviewer. He is more antagonistic setting up an argument to try and prove his point. Usually the people he interviews are more knowledgeable than Price is so he loses and that is when he talks down the person he is interviewing. I never listen to Price and change channels when I see he is the interviewer.
 
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I am tired of the habit that so-called news presenters have developed of using the media to humiliate and undermine any opposition to any offering by liberal or conservative politicians.
Of course the AUKUS contract is full of flaws, by naming a production company in the contract, they make delivery by any other supplier impossible as any delay or increase of cost, can be simply described as beyond our control and therefore allowed by contract.
Of interest also is that the vehicle in question will represent another F-111. In that it's only purpose is to allow us to fight in someone else's war and 368 Billion with a potential for double that amount in cost overruns and delays spent for an item which we will gain no advantage from is no small consideration.
We will be lucky to see delivery before the subject vehicles are already obsolete, which the Virginia class already is
 
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is that not what he is supposed to be doing as President of the USA. Australia is not of his concern. I am sure albo would not get an invite as he is unable to run a chook run. you made a very silly remark.
For sure, he could not give two hoots about Australia and all the efforts Australia has made to back America, America says jump and Australia says how high!! That`s why he has no respect!! Silly you are kidding yourself!
 
The highly skilled people will remain if treated right. If not, they will go to better paid jobs in private industry (just not as rewarding). Governments have failed people like me and countless others in the ADF and people leave because of that. We have learned nothing since the first Australian came back from WW1. We treated them poorly when they were serving and it was disgusting how they were treated when they returned - and they were the ones that we rightfully consider heroes. Since then, the support from governments has just gone downhill. I could tell you my story and you would just shake your head and say that is horrible. My story is just one of thousands and probably not as bad as most. So, we can be optimists and believe we will be able to man a handful of these clunky machines, or we can take the HR problems out of the picture and replace them with thousands of very capable stealth weapons.
You think, these "soft-hearted children" who sign up these days will ever defend Australia, the instructors are not even allowed to raise their voices to them, let alone teach what to do should they find themselves in a warlike situation. 🤬 🤬
 
Dont know why we need to buy submarines from overseas ,we are building submarines in Adelaide and other bits and pieces of submarines in W.A, We just need to receive some Federal money to upgrade ,could be sending our submarine trades men and the people with the know how, overseas to France or USA to learn all the knowhow . Or we could employ an expert to show us how. We have to get back to having our own industries. We know what happens when our trading parteners ,spit the dummy. jay2
 

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